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Flopping Aces ^ | 06-25-12 | DrJohn

Posted on 06/25/2012 10:31:59 AM PDT by Starman417

There's really no doubt any longer.

As Curt noted, this administration is lying through its teeth about Fast and Furious.

Liberals have all sorts of pathetic commentary for Fast and Furious- it runs from the frenetically dissembling Jay Carney saying it's not worthy of Congress


to the feckless Sheila Jackson Lee blaming George Bush while conflating Wide Receiver and Fast and Furious.


It's been suggested that Fast and Furious intended to create violence in Mexico as a means of introducing stricter gun laws.

TAPPER: You really think that there’s a possibility that they were sending guns across the border not because they were trying to get people in the Mexican drug cartels, not because they were trying to figure out drug — I mean, gun trafficking, but because they were trying to push gun control?

ISSA: Two things quickly. First of all, this was so flawed that you can’t believe they expected to actually get criminal prosecutions as a result of it. So the level of flaw — flaw — flaw, if that’s a word, here is huge.

But here’s the real answer as to gun control. We have e-mail from people involved in this that are talking about using what they’re finding here to support the — basically assault weapons ban or greater reporting.

So chicken or egg? We don’t know which came first; we probably never will. We do know that during this — this Fast and Furious operation, there were e-mails in which they’re saying we can use this as part of additional reporting or things like assault weapons ban. So the people involved saw the benefit of what — what they were gathering. Whether or not that was their original purpose, we probably will never know.

The left has been blathering and distracting from this premise, but there is evidence that it is true.

"Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation "Fast and Furious" to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales."

And there is indirect evidence.

Right on cue, Democratic lawmakers have begun to say the DOJ’s lethal and irresponsible Fast and Furious program underscores the need for stricter gun control laws:

“This hunt for blame doesn’t really speak about the problem,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein at a recent Senate Judiciary hearing while discussing Fast and Furious.

“And the problem is, anybody can walk in and buy anything, .50-caliber weapons, sniper weapons, buy them in large amounts, and send them down to Mexico. So, the question really becomes, what do we do about this?”

The ranking Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Rep. Elijah Cummings (Md.), and Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) have introduced a dedicated firearms trafficking statute, but it has stalled in the House Judiciary Committee.

Congressman Darrell Issa narrowed the focus of his investigation to specific documents:

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1 posted on 06/25/2012 10:32:02 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Who authorized the F&F operation?

We don’t know, because we know.

2 posted on 06/25/2012 11:01:42 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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After 18 months Holder hasn't been able to find the subordinate who authorized F&F. (He claims.)

Imagine a private company. Imagine that a group of employees was regularly helping an auto theft ring steal company vehicles. Imagine that they said, and had documentation to prove, that they were ordered to do that by some nameless person in upper management.

Now, summon up all of your imaginative powers and imagine that the CEO couldn't find out who ordered that after 18 months. Wut you say? Your imaginator broke?

3 posted on 06/25/2012 11:27:57 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
You got that right.

At the March 2011 hearing, Holder said too many times to count that he couldn't answer the question put to him because his inspector general was hot on the trail in her investigation. Her instructions were of course verbal and no, he would not disclose the scope of her “assignment.”

Holder and Hussein are accessories to the murder of over 300 people. These are not merely impeachable offenses, these are orange jumpsuit offenses and neither of them are immune from prosecution.

4 posted on 06/25/2012 12:59:27 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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