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To: butterdezillion
If the Soros communist-Islamist coup gets an Islamist regime under sharia installed within the next 4 years, what will it do to your hopes of getting Scott Walker elected in 2016?

Of all the wild conspiracies, that is the most absurd and unlikely I have heard of. Sharia isn't happening. Liberals don't want that.

But, if Obama wants to try a coup, let him. Let's have a civil war that removes him and thins out the heard of liberals.

156 posted on 07/05/2012 3:47:41 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Kazan
Conspiracy? Hardly. We've had a number of judges fall into the trap of using Sharia in civil cases. However, in Indiana we had a fellow who'd been the chief counsel for the prisoners at GITMO for 8 years get appointed to the Indiana Supreme Court.

What happened in one case was amazing and required the legislature to attempt to prepare the damage. Basically a domestic case came up and the Mr., who was moving out, interfered with the cops answering the Mrs.' 911 call.

Folks who thought this was an improper arrest might read up on http://www.cga.ct.gov/2002/rpt/2002-R-0891.htm which is a lengthy discussion and compendium of legislation relating to 911 calls.

Anyway, an arrest was made, a trial held, and next thing you know the guy's lawyer has this thing up at the Supreme Court. There the fellow from GITMO found himself in the majority ~ which majority necessarily IGNORED the fact the MR. had actually interfered in a 911 call ~ but, taking things in stride, the judge wrote the majority decision ~ and the Mr. won his point. He got a retrial.

The court, to arrive at the conclusion they did would necessarily have to discount the rights of the Mrs. ~ and in Islamic codes (to wit: the Sharia Law) the testimony of a woman is weighed as half that of a man.

Eventually this was approached as a 4th amendment case, the legislature passed its magic wand on whether or not you can shoot a cop in your home, and all was forgiven.

Still, the woman's right to a 911 call was clearly violated ~ which made further police involvement in dealing with that call completely lawful.

The judge is still on the job ready, willing and able to write more decisions that discount the rights of women! Only a matter of time until he decides Christians and Jews have no rights under the law.

So, yeah, a conspiracy ~ or a reality?

158 posted on 07/05/2012 4:18:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kazan

Obama told the Egyptian ambassador in January of 2010 that he supports the Muslim agenda (and the agenda which all sects of Islam agree on is the destruction of the US and Israel and the institution of worldwide sharia)

George Soros has said that he is afraid the US will win the “war on terror” because then the US and capitalism will be strong. Soros believes that he, as God, has to wipe out America and capitalism, the 2 great evils in the world. And he apparently would rather have terrorism than America.

Muslims are exempt from Obamacare. This means that “infidels” will be taxed and Muslims will not. Shortly after the 2008 run on the bank, AIG started a “shared health ministry” that would allow Muslims to pitch in their required tithes towards a sort of Muslim collective health reimbursement account, which is compliant with sharia and now allows Muslims to not have insurance of any kind, presumably not spend any more than they would spend on tithing, and yet be eligible to be exempt from Obamacare even while collecting social security. The groundwork that allows Muslims to not be “taxed” even while dhimmis are taxed - which is what sharia calls for - was laid immediately after the Sept 2008 run on the bank. And in fact, the week after the run on the bank, Paulson and Bernanke were busy doing seminars on..... sharia-compliant financing.

So far two rulings in Obama’s eligibility trials have resulted in rulings based on “judge’s knowledge” - which is a trick of sharia, where evidence is not required in order for a ruling to be made. A judge is able to rule based on his own thoughts/wishes - sort of like executive orders by the king/president.

The Muslim Brotherhood has unprecedented access to Obama’s White House.

The New Black Panthers, Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, and Mexican drug cartels are all allies against America. Eric Holder supports and protects all of them from any investigations. Eric Holder is deliberately keeping our southern border unprotected, even while knowing that the drug cartels are working with Muslim terrorists to get into the country. Hezbollah operatives were flown from Iran in direct unchecked flights to Venezuela, providing a large, large number of terrorists to work their way upwards through our soft southern underbelly - perhaps armed with WMD’s from Syria. We know that Chavez is an ally of Iran - who has agreed to allow Iran to use Venezuela for missile launching, which gives them easy access to attack the US using the missile launch capabilities they already have. Iran has been testing the kind of launch necessary for an EMP attack, which would bring the US to a halt and kill what the US government has estimated to be millions of people within the first 6 months.

Major Nidal Hasan killed a bunch of military people at Fort Bragg while shouting “Allahu Akbar!” He was immediately protected legally and the jihadist killings were labeled “workplace violence”. After seeing the legal response to Hasan, a black Muslim convert in Arkansas decided that was the way to go and killed a military recruiter in Arkansas. Right around the same time, FBI informants leaked that Holder had told law enforcement agencies to not investigate Black Muslim converts.

If you have any doubts about liberals’ stance on sharia, try to find liberals who are speaking out against the atrocities of sharia all over the world. Good luck with that.

About a week after the Sept 2008 run on the bank GW Bush suddenly decided to give a speech to the country saying that if we didn’t pass TARP the world as we know it would end. Capitalism would end. Within a very short time after that, communists Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez were saying, “Since capitalism has failed the world should try communism”. Islamists Ahmadinejad and Zawahiri were saying, “Since capitalism has failed the world should try sharia-compliant Islamic finance”. The IMF was meeting in Europe to decide what to do, now that “capitalism had failed”...

We know that George Soros had asked both Hillary and Obama during the 2008 primary if they were on-board with his plans to destroy the US economy (Obama was). And intelligence sources in the Mideast (Egypt?) were hearing in 2007 that there was an imminent act of economic terrorism that was going to be launched by world Muslims against the US. A Freeper happened to be up late and saw an article which said the Sept 2008 run on the bank began in Indonesia. By morning the article was scrubbed.

There is much, much more that I could say. I don’t usually suggest a theory unless I’ve got quite a bit of evidence that factors into my thinking. The trouble is trying to get it all down in one place so others can see it at once.

If Obama tries a coup following either an economic run on the bank or an Iranian EMP attack, he would have Hezbollah operatives all over the country who would do the dirty work for him; he has always stood with the Muslims against America. And if those direct unchecked flights from Iran to Venezuela included WMD’s, then the coup that Obama could stage would be beyond our ability to fight with guns. Bear in mind that Obama is in control of all the medicines and who can get them. Also keep in mind that sources within the DHS have said that the government is arming and preparing for a civil war bloodbath.

So mock if you like, but there are good reasons for anybody who loves this land and/or its people to be very, very concerned. The prevalence of Hezbollah in the US as well as the infiltration of the military by Muslim jihadists have all been in the news because Rep (Peter?) King has spoken out about the alarming signs he sees. Allen West just recently alluded to the training materials found when terrorists were caught, saying that the Muslim plan was to infiltrate and destroy the US from within.

There’s a particular progression that is prescribed for the institution of sharia. Everything Obama has done has advanced that progression, so that countries with majority Muslim populations have had coups wherein the sharia-supporting parties (Muslim Brotherhood and the salafists, primarily) have taken power - and specifically have overthrown the regimes which were allies of the US in the war on terror (Egypt, Libya, etc). Obama is openly supporting talks with the Taliban and other terrorist organizations under the claim that if these groups have their own countries to rule they won’t terrorize the rest of the world. Using that logic he is helping to install terrorists in other countries such as Afghanistan.

Everything Obama has done has been against our own troops and in support of the terrorists who seek to do them harm - for instance, with the Koran burning episode (where Obama refused to point out that the Korans had been desecrated by prisoners and that sharia requires desecrated Korans to be burned), with the refusal to allow discovery of the witnesses to the alleged killing spree by the soldier in Afghanistan (on his third deployment after experiencing a brain injury on his latest tour of duty).

The moves being made by Muslims in the US are to force everybody else to accommodate their religious preferences. I say “preferences” because Islam allows its adherents to live comfortably within the society when they are a small percentage of the population. For instance, if there’s nothing to eat but pork, pork is fine. If they are not able to stop working to do their mandatory prayers, that’s fine. But when they reach a certain percentage of the population, then they have to start pushing for concessions to sharia, with the goal of weaseling their way into full sharia eventually, using court precedents and “cultural acceptance” propaganda. I believe it is when Muslims are 10% of the population they are required to push for sharia, with the first concessions starting at around 8%. And that is what we are seeing in the US right now. Pushing for those concessions is a signal that it is time for the people to push for sharia, which requires them to be enemies of the US Constitution which guarantees religious freedom. Whenever you see that a Muslim has sued a company to be allowed to wear a hijab, or to not have to scan pork in the grocery check-out, etc... that is a signal that American Muslims believe they are at the percentage to begin the push for sharia.

Hopefully you realize that Christians quietly holding signs at an Arab festival in Dearborn, MI were stoned by Muslims in the crowd while police watched without doing anything. The free speech rights of Christians are constantly being violated so that Muslims do not have to see anything against them.

A Muslim convert was elected to a judgeship in PA after claiming to be both republican and democrat, but running on his previous service in the military in the Middle East. In a case where a Muslim man attacked an atheist who was holding a sign ridiculing Islam, the Muslim-convert judge ruled that the atheist had it coming to him because in the country the Muslim man was from the atheist could be stoned to death for ridiculing Mohammed. The judge said he would jail the atheist if he exposed to the world what the judge had just ruled.

My church body deals with refugees from Muslim countries. Christians from Somalia have especially expressed concern that if America doesn’t get wise to how the Islamists function, America will fall VERY QUICKLY. They have seen the progression and are afraid of what is imminent in America.

I can vaguely remember some Islamist groups talking about Arab Spring happening in America. I don’t know the details on that, but I think Glenn Beck has talked about that some too.

I’m also hoping that you are aware of the number of beheadings and “honor killings” in the US. The pattern with that can be seen in Britain, where Muslims gather in enclaves and then they petition the government to have law enforcement that is “culturally sensitive”. So law enforcement is trained to intercept women who are fleeing their families who intend to “honor kill” them, return those women to their families, and tell the man of the house that the daughter/wife/sister ran away from home. What often happens is that the woman either commits suicide or is found dead at the hands of her family. That’s the pattern seen in Britain, and we see that already in places like Dearborn, MI. The whole “cultural sensitivity” thing is geared towards setting precedents for sharia.

But the “honor killings”, beheadings, and such are becoming more common all over the country. Particularly in the south, the Mexican drug cartels have admired the terror created after the beheading video of Daniel Pearl and have since patterned their methods of terror after the Muslim terrorists. That’s why we are seeing groups of people beheaded, gutted, hanged from a bridge, buried in shallow graves en masse, etc.

Several years ago there was basically a “dry run” where some imams in Minneapolis were shouting “death to America!”, took the seats next to the exits rather than their assigned seats, asked for seat belt extenders and then set them on the ground, etc. Passengers reported the behavior, terrorized, and the imams were escorted off the plane, detained, and eventually let go. Within hours, media reports surfaced about these imams who had been discriminated against simply for “praying”. It was only because passengers went on talk radio shows and described what really happened that anybody knew the truth. The Muslims (I think maybe using CAIR) sued the airline AND THE PASSENGERS WHO REPORTED THE THREATENING BEHAVIOR for discrimination, in an attempt to set precedent where anybody who would report suspicious behavior would be subjected to civil lawsuits that would bankrupt them. In that way the Arab money could be used to intimidate normal Americans by the threat of bankrupting lawsuits. Congress eventually passed a law protecting people who report suspicious behavior, but the attempt to call “racist” anybody who reports suspicious behavior is one way of softening the resistance to sharia maneuvers.

And we can see the effect of that regarding Black Muslims such as the New Black Panthers. Just notice how the New Black Panthers had a bounty on the head of George Zimmerman and law enforcement all looked the other way. Look at all the beatings of whites by Blacks - some of them Black Supremacists such as the Yahwah bin Yahweh cult (which practices sub-Saharan supremacy such as that taught to Chicago teachers by the Chicago Annenberg Challenge as forced by Bill Ayers and Barack Obama). The “cultural”/racist charges are meant to disable people from resisting the violence of these groups. And Muslims have a very, very active recruitment program within the prisons. Particularly in Detroit and Chicago there was heavy recruitment for Islam, the Nation of Islam, and the Black Panthers.

This is just stuff off the top of my head, that I remember. There is much, much more. People need to be made aware of this. This stuff is not “vast conspiracy” type stuff. This is what our enemies have done elsewhere and have said straight-out that they plan to do. I’m not sure why it’s considered so radical to simply believe our enemies when they say they are at war with us - especially when they have demonstrated these same tactics over and over again.


165 posted on 07/05/2012 5:04:18 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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