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The Daily Pen ^ | July 18, 2012 | Dan Crosby

Posted on 07/19/2012 5:28:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

It now appears the worst fears of the U.S. Constitution’s framers were well founded as investigators working on behalf of the ongoing investigation into the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama have found yet another lead in a growing mountain of evidence within the public records section of the British National Archives indicating the occurrence of at least four vital events registered to the name of Barack Obama, taking place in the British Protectorate of East Africa (Kenya) between 1953 and 1963, including the birth of two sons before 1963.

The record of birth of a second son prior to Kenyan independence is significant because biographical information about Obama’s family indicates Obama Sr. fathered only one other son prior to Obama II’s birth.

The books containing hand written line records of vital events attributed to Obama are contained in Series RG36 of the Family Records section in the Kew branch of the BNA. The hand written line records first discovered in 2009, indicate several events were registered to the name Barack Obama (appears to be handwritten and spelled “Burack” and “Biraq”) beginning in 1953 and include two births recorded in 1958 and 1960, a marriage license registration in 1954 and a birth in 1961. Barack Obama is said to have died in 1982 and had married at least once more in Kenya and had at least one more child in 1968, but no record of these were found in the BNA because, according to the Archives’ desk reference, the events occurred after Kenya achieved independence from British colonial rule in 1963.

To date, Barack Obama II is the only known alleged son of Obama Sr. born after 1960 and before the independence of Kenya became official in 1963.

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To: thecodont

And at the expense of stirring into a white-hot rage some people who post here, I’ll come back to where I started before the identity of one photograph out of 16 became a major issue...

The Tax Return shows that Mr & Mrs Soetoro didn’t claim the child named as Barack Hussein Obama 2 on the divorce from the kenyan, as a dependant child...and in the absence of a birth certificate that isn’t an abstract ( a bit from here and a bit from there) how can anyone be certain where that child was born and who his parents were?

How is it possible to identify Stanley Ann Dunham as his mother?

301 posted on 07/23/2012 2:07:13 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM...)
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To: Seizethecarp; bluecat6; LucyT; melancholy; Brown Deer; advertising guy; thecodont
Am I interpreting the new material correctly? A notation in the archive of the nature could only be generated by Kenyan documentation and not by registering a foreign birth which would be done by another process.

Also just caught this post in the comment section:

lindajadamsJuly 19, 2012 5:21 PM She was in Topeka,Ks after birth in 8.61 where I saw her. Last seen in 1/61 when enrolled at Topeka HS ubder birth name of father who was born as Daniel Wayne Pope. Has anyone checked records in Topeka? Next tme saw Obama was 1/71 with his grandmother in Washington stste.(sic) Linda Joy Adams,3rd cousun

302 posted on 07/23/2012 5:12:26 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama; Seizethecarp; bluecat6; LucyT; melancholy; Brown Deer; advertising guy; thecodont; ...
This is a most puzzling piece of the puzzle, is it not?

BHO, Sr. was quite the Bush Bluebeard, though. With a number of wives, and an unknown number of children, how can one positively identify this particular child?

Everything fits ... and then again ... Damn shame one of us isn't a State Attorney General! Apparently, it doesn't matter that the documentation needed to run for President in any of the 50 states is not as stringently vetted as the paperwork necessary to register a small boat or a cheap used car in the State of Maine.

303 posted on 07/23/2012 7:26:17 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (What Hawaii gave to Obama, was not what Obama gave to us.)
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To: Seizethecarp; TheOldLady; WildHighlander57; netmilsmom; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; ...
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Catching up again.

Begin at # 259 and read through # 303.

See photos, too.


304 posted on 07/23/2012 7:39:28 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Kenny Bunk
There are other repositories.

I would think BO would really be sweating it...He has no idea what people have including the Posse.

IMO Silence from them on some previously mentioned topics is a guarantee something is going on behind the scene.

Self inflicted gag order.

305 posted on 07/23/2012 8:01:49 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: little jeremiah

Isn’t that the document that has “Soebarkah” crossed off? So isn’t that the actual last name he was using at that time?


It is hard to say or even speculate what the parathesised “Soebarkah” means.

The only absolute I take from this action is that Obama WAS removed from her US passport and that it is unknown what passport he was provided or if another adult or guardian picked him up as a minor on another passport.

The trail stops with this removal. Why?

If he went onto an Indonesian passport and did not hold a US passport the answer would be obvious.

306 posted on 07/23/2012 8:06:38 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: thecodont

Good post.

This is where I am at.

I just continue to have a challenge with the Kenya birth. The logistics seem to be a stretch and there is no apparent evidence that Obama Sr and SAD had any deep relationship that would led to her going to ‘meet the parents’. Especially since he had a wife and child already in Kenya.

I believe the most damning revelation would be that he used foreign passports to travel in the late 1969s. Again, when you enter the US you MUST present a US passport if you are a US citizen. No ifs, ands or buts about this rule. Lack of any proof of a US passport AND entry into the US on a foreign passport would be a big problem.

In 1969 there is the Christmas time (see the background) picture with Scott Inoue. Barry/Barack Obama/Soetoro (II) was supposed to be living in Indonesia. Did he make a holiday visit to the US? If so, what passport did he travel on?

“ old photo of the two of them taken while they were third-grade classmates at Noelani Elementary School...”

This photo is a problem in many ways. Either he traveled to and from Indonesia and visited with old classmates at school. Thus, there would be INS/passport records that would clarify the questions raised. OR was he already (always) living in Hawaii?

307 posted on 07/23/2012 8:23:35 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Seizethecarp

” - - - On August 31st, 1961, just weeks after Obama’s birth was allegedly registered in a regional office of the Hawaiian Health Department, Obama the elder neglected to name is newborn son on an application for extension of his temporary visa to stay in the U.S. “

Duh, because Barack Obama Senior KNEW that he wasn’t the “Baby-Daddy” to the child born to Stanley in a Kenya hospital. There are consequences for falsifying visa extension papers.

308 posted on 07/23/2012 8:39:54 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: hoosiermama
And further info from her on another site:

lindajadamsJune 20, 2012 10:55 PM The clues are in Topeka,. Ks. Stanley Ann Pope also used the name Stanley Ann Dunham as her father went by Daniel Wayne Pope, his birth name and later as Dunham. I only saw him oncein the early 50's when he stopped by to talk with my dad. His parents were Millard Dell Pope and Helen hardy Pope ( born Olga Romanov, Russian royal family)For a hundred years much has occured hiding the identities. In 1/61, stalney Ann Pope was registered at Topeka, Ks. I had met her a couple of years earlier at a piao recital as Ann dunham. In 8/61 she was working at the Catholic bookstore in downtown Topeka with presdent obama behind the counter. Just before school started. in late 8/61.I next met him with his grandmother (Toot) at my cousin's housein 1/71 near seatlle, wa. Roland hackett, son of Bill and Grace Hardy ( Anastasia Romanov) Hackett. In 2008, our son stated to do genalogiy of family ad many wern;t saying much as another cousin's grandaughter was becoming VP candidate on the Republican ticket. descendant of Maria Romanov. The real story here is that Prsident Wilson got them out of Russia according to some of my cousins. Linda Joy hardy-Adams aka alexis's daughter There haas to be records in Topeka. Maybe even a birth record. But I was not present at the birth whereever it was.

She is saying that for the 2nd half of senior year of high school that SAD was going to school in Kansas under the last name of Pope; and that Stanley Armour Dunham was really born Daniel Wayne Pope. This web just keeps getting bigger and bigger...

309 posted on 07/23/2012 9:32:15 AM PDT by LivingNet
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To: thecodont; hoosiermama; bluecat6; Seizethecarp; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer
Also (I’d forgotten this part) if BO has statutory U.S. citizenship through his mother, wasn’t his mother (under 1961 law) not old enough to pass citizenship to her son?

If Barry had been born in Kenya to Stanley the mother and BHO Senior the father, he was not a US Citizen for the reason you set out--residence of the citizen mother in the US for five years after age 14 was a condition of citizenship to the child and Stanley would have been, under the hypothetical, only 18 at the time of birth in August of 61 and therefore could not possibly have met the requirement of the condition.

310 posted on 07/23/2012 10:11:43 AM PDT by David
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To: thecodont; hoosiermama; bluecat6; Seizethecarp; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer

Subsequent modifications to the statute which would have modified the result contained a specific exception clause in the effective date provision of the Public Law that made such modifications effective only with respect to births after the effective date which in all cases was after the purported birth date.

311 posted on 07/23/2012 10:16:08 AM PDT by David
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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks; LucyT; Brown Deer
The record is, by your own admission, IIRC, that the photo of David, circa 1970, that you keep misrepresenting as being of Barry was obtained from Mark's website. An honest researcher would state that they had questions as to the identity of the boy but would not spam every eligibility thread with misrepresentations and wild speculations. The evidence in the FOIA INS files and now in the BNA files if the research in the article at the top of this thread is true, is that Stanley Ann is Barry's mom and she had him in Kenya when she went missing from HI in 1961. You don't own Free Republic. I started this thread and I will address any comments made on it. I will address any comments on any other Free Republic thread unless JimRob says otherwise.

Well that's kind of an inflammatory post.

By record, we mean documentary or paper record or other third party verifiable evidence.

There isn't any of that with respect to "David". He doesn't exist anywhere in the record except as a device by Mark to leverage Zero into certain conduct with respect to Mark's mother.

And the loose talk about David is internally inconsistent in the description of where, when, and to whom he was born; as well as where, when, or under what circumstances he died. No record anywhere of any nature with respect to any of that.

Nothing anywhere that supports the argument that David ever really existed.

Further, whatever the fairy tale about David, the two baby boys picture is clearly a picture of Zero.

312 posted on 07/23/2012 10:30:54 AM PDT by David
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"It’s not even clear if SAD is even the impostor’s real mother"

In Sheriff Arpio's last conference he said; We can't even be sure who they say is his mother and father is correct.

313 posted on 07/23/2012 10:37:40 AM PDT by Spunky (Those)
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To: Spunky

Lots of good post at link from #251 thu 327..check out post 308 and 321 also;page=251

314 posted on 07/23/2012 11:02:05 AM PDT by chicken head
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To: chicken head

Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, left him stock in the Bank of Hawaii valued at almost $500,000 at the time of her death in November 2008, the tax return shows

315 posted on 07/23/2012 11:35:17 AM PDT by chicken head
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To: Fred Nerks

About David: If he existed and since he’s supposed to be dead, then where would he be buried? Is he there in the family plot, next to his dad and granddad?

316 posted on 07/23/2012 11:57:53 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: LivingNet; LucyT; Brown Deer; melancholy; bluecat6; STARWISE; maggief; thouworm; MestaMachine; ...

Thanks Living Net for the follow up...Good research
CHeck out NEW information at 309 and pass to whomever you think needs it or can verify the information.

Russian ancestors....mmm mmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

317 posted on 07/23/2012 12:41:54 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: LivingNet

If this is a prank poster, freepers should have it figured out by dawn.

Is there a history of the ROmanoff family other than WIKI?

318 posted on 07/23/2012 1:03:15 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: melancholy

” Sorry for the longest post I’ve ever written!”


319 posted on 07/23/2012 1:08:22 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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Any one have access to

320 posted on 07/23/2012 1:08:37 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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