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The Daily Pen ^ | July 18, 2012 | Dan Crosby

Posted on 07/19/2012 5:28:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

It now appears the worst fears of the U.S. Constitution’s framers were well founded as investigators working on behalf of the ongoing investigation into the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama have found yet another lead in a growing mountain of evidence within the public records section of the British National Archives indicating the occurrence of at least four vital events registered to the name of Barack Obama, taking place in the British Protectorate of East Africa (Kenya) between 1953 and 1963, including the birth of two sons before 1963.

The record of birth of a second son prior to Kenyan independence is significant because biographical information about Obama’s family indicates Obama Sr. fathered only one other son prior to Obama II’s birth.

The books containing hand written line records of vital events attributed to Obama are contained in Series RG36 of the Family Records section in the Kew branch of the BNA. The hand written line records first discovered in 2009, indicate several events were registered to the name Barack Obama (appears to be handwritten and spelled “Burack” and “Biraq”) beginning in 1953 and include two births recorded in 1958 and 1960, a marriage license registration in 1954 and a birth in 1961. Barack Obama is said to have died in 1982 and had married at least once more in Kenya and had at least one more child in 1968, but no record of these were found in the BNA because, according to the Archives’ desk reference, the events occurred after Kenya achieved independence from British colonial rule in 1963.

To date, Barack Obama II is the only known alleged son of Obama Sr. born after 1960 and before the independence of Kenya became official in 1963.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
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To: Fred Nerks

What local time do you have???

661 posted on 07/25/2012 6:42:08 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

I would like to see a situation in any country in the Western World, in which immigration officials deported a minor child - whose only identification was a passport with his name on it, and an elderly couple who claimed to be his grandparents and couldn’t prove they were.
Where would you send him, after his ‘mother’ had all of him or part of him removed from her passport?

He’s not a parcel sent by air, he’s a human being! They can’t just turn him around and send him back, TO WHOM AND TO WHERE?

662 posted on 07/25/2012 6:51:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DONATE! fair dinkum!)
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To: danamco

almost noon

663 posted on 07/25/2012 6:53:01 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DONATE! fair dinkum!)
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To: hoosiermama

I’m not sure I’m understanding your first statement... You said one of the purposes of sealing the records is to keep multiple identities. I was adopted (at 3 days old) in 1972, so I’m curious as to what you’re talking about re: SS#s and such. Perhaps I could come up with some info. if I knew what you were referring to in regards to numbers being distributed/obtained by Catholic Charities? I’m going to backtrack reading from the post I’m replying to, but thought I’d offer my help if I could provide any info. from personal experience, or research as I used to be an adoption-rights advocate/activist, but I admit it’s been a long time, and the last decade has seen many changes to the availability of records and such.

664 posted on 07/25/2012 7:04:14 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Seizethecarp

I did post it once before on this thread, but here it is again, THE BOMFORD FAMILY WEBSITE

This is the branch of the family to which David Jeffrey belongs, this is the page from which HE REMOVED HIS OWN BIRTH CERTIFICATE as the result of the kerfuffle in 2009.


The earliest identified Bomford from whom we can trace the living family is:

I0001 Thomas Bomford, b c1580, lived in Coughton, Warwickshire

He was a tenant farmer near Arrow, Warwick. He had two sons that we know of.

1a I0002 Thomas Bomford, of Arrow, b 1612, of whom below.

1b I0003 Laurence Bomford, b 1617, d 1720 at County Meath, Ireland, m 1650 I0006 Eleanor Chevenix, b 1633, d 1722. Laurence went to Ireland and started the Irish branch of the family.

Thomas and Laurence both fought for Oliver Cromwell at the battle of Worcester in 1651. Tradition has it that Oliver Cromwell called in at the farm house where the Bomfords lived on his way to Worcester on 22 August 1651, and there was entertained. The legend continues that he tethered his horse and sat under a yew tree, were he read his Bible. He went into the house were he is said to have written a letter. The farmhouse still survives to today as two dwellings.

665 posted on 07/25/2012 7:04:39 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: LibertyRocks; SvenMagnussen
Because the adoptive parents often want to name a child and a child is often named before placement There was some confusion, ABC became ACD. To alleviate the confusion the babies were issued a number, child was 123 before adoption and as the process proceeded continued to be 123 even though the name was changed.

This was particularly true when an older child who had been in foster care for a while was tracked though the system. (He wasn't sure how old a child was before this was used.)
One foster parent called the child Robert another Bob and the third Bobby or Rob...It helped keep track of the child and their funding. Dad who was attorney for welfare, when it was a county agency and before the state combined all counties under one statewide umbrella said that at one point some of the older children were given SS# to help track them....particularly if adoption was not likely or child was placed out of county. It seems that if this was done nationally or in numerous states BO would fall under this pattern. He was older and adoption wasn't likely....Madelyn was named guardian/foster parent. As such she received funds for his care from the state and that money would be tracked through the SS#. Dad has been away from it many years too. But he was remembering some of the changes that were being made WAAAAAY back then.

Are you following? can you confirm? Was it in place in other states? Are SS# used to track foster care funding today? Ir may be the reason he was assigned the number/per an out of state agency as Sven has suggested.

When looking through the web there were many people looking for their birth parents. Many mentioned being wards of both Catholic Services and Federal agencies as Sven had suggested.

666 posted on 07/25/2012 7:41:29 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Seizethecarp

an explanation as good or better than any other, and it seems the writer was correct, a relative with access to the genealogy website lifted the original image and used it as a prank. I do have access to the information WHO that relative in the US probably was, but I won’t publish it here, I have no wish to embarrass the family further. You may wish to pass this material on to The Daily Pen - or not, no matter to me.

667 posted on 07/25/2012 7:42:51 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

Or was he being deported FROM Indonesia? Did they discover he wasn’t Lolo son and one of their laws had been broken by BS living in the home?

668 posted on 07/25/2012 7:48:48 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama

I believe it had more that just getting a BC.

Obama/Soetoro’s parents were Lolo and SAD. How does a MINOR child immigrate from one country to another if their parents do not?

Does anyone know the answer to that question?

What Indonesian law terminates a minors citizenship if they immigrate to another country - and their parents do not?!?

We do know if a birth father claims an adopted child Indonesia will terminate citizenship and this provides a legal path to immigrate from Indonesia to the country of the birth father.

If this scenario is correct then - yes - The Dunhams and Hawaii needed to get the birth records ‘fixed’. And that almost certainly happened. But that would be just the opening round. After Obama was established as the birth father then this status would have been used in Indonesia to cleanly and completely terminate Indonesia ties to young Obama/Soetoro.

1971 - what happened?

669 posted on 07/25/2012 8:02:27 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: hoosiermama

I doubt it, if she was his mother...all she would have had to was wave the divorce docs under their noses and show them his birth certificate...and if she was married to Lolo, he WOULD have been the stepfather.
You gotta stop trying to figure it out while you are in the straight-jacket of the myth.
Why do you think they had to fake the images on the couch? Why MAKE a family - if a family existed - why the NEED to create one?
Now keep in mind I am somewhat wary...last few times I answered questions I was attacked. Please try not to repeat that performance, I’m doing the best I can. Our opponents have unlimited resources...I don’t.

670 posted on 07/25/2012 8:08:15 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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671 posted on 07/25/2012 8:24:09 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: little jeremiah

Nope. I see nothing about O that remotely resembles MX. FWIW I read faces all the time. It’s part of my job. The eyes a dead give away. People look out of their eyes differently. I watched a video of FMD and in it one could see manerisms and speech patterns that O has. They use their hands the same way also. Their hands look the same.

672 posted on 07/25/2012 8:30:32 PM PDT by WVNan ("Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston)
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To: Fred Nerks


673 posted on 07/25/2012 8:35:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

With a right arm that long at that age, it’s no wonder little barry abstard boy plays basketball. And the ability to be in two places at the same time? Well, talent like that could land the slug an NBA contract don’tchaknow!

674 posted on 07/25/2012 8:36:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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He did better than that, he got to be POTUS and no one really knows who he is.

675 posted on 07/25/2012 8:41:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: hoosiermama; SvenMagnussen

[Sorry this post jumps around a bit - I’ve had to get up and sit back down to finish it several times... Trying to wrap up some housework, and then I’ll be able to do some research, and write more clearly as well...]

I think I’ve got ya, HM. I’m not as familiar with the foster care system. (I mostly worked on newborn adoption issues - and helping adoptees obtain their original records.)

I’d have to do some research to find out about the SS#s being used to track foster care expenses/disbursements, etc... It wouldn’t surprise me.

In my personal case I have been told by my adoption agency that my birthmother was working through the Dept. of Children and Family Services to place me, but a private adoption agency was brought in at the last minute. I’m still trying to figure out what happened in my case as my Adoptive Father was a DCFS case-worker in the same county as my Birthmother’s case. From what I’ve been told they have records of my adoption both through DCFS and through the private agency. I suppose until my adoption was finalized I was technically a ward of the state of IL. That would indicate to me that once a child is a ward of the state, no matter what agency is involved in the adoption or foster placement itself the child remains a ward of the state until an adoption is finalized, or they reach the age of majority.

My AFather worked for the brand-new IL DCFS through the transition your father was talking about - from county to state run. He then got a job working for SS when I was 2 years old, and worked there for about 15 years. Unfortunately, he was an abusive jerk who never wanted me to know I was even adopted, and after finding out refused to even tell me the name of the agency. When I turned 18 I called a plethora of agencies until I found the right one - it was then I found out that my AFather had even committed fraud (according to the director, who was a case worker when I was born) on the applications and such that were required by the agency. Which probably explains why he was so loathe to give me ANY information at all about my birthparents, the agency, or anything else.

Sorry to go off on a tangent. I just wanted to give you a bit of background on my situation. I have to do some stuff here for a bit, but I’ll try to do some research and see if I can’t come up with some kind of an answer. It would make sense that the SS# is used because of the dependency status that would most likely change were a child to live with a foster family, even temporarily if aid were distributed.

676 posted on 07/25/2012 8:50:34 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: bluecat6

If Indonesia reliquished citizenship to birth father, then the pass port he used would not be Indonesian....It technically should be issued from Kenya or GB....OR a US passport...IMO that’s a not!

Agree getting a delayed BC was just one issue that was solved.....road trip!

677 posted on 07/25/2012 9:02:01 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

IMO it’s not a matter of being convinced it’s a matter of having the documentation to convince a court of law or congress. One can believe anything but without the bluedress it’s nothing more than gossip.....yes?

678 posted on 07/25/2012 9:05:03 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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679 posted on 07/25/2012 9:43:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

You could post an image of a chimpanzee and call it Frank Marshall Davis and there would still be lots of #$&&^ who would write in and tell you the chimp looks like zero.

680 posted on 07/25/2012 10:27:24 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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