Posted on 07/19/2012 5:28:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
It now appears the worst fears of the U.S. Constitution’s framers were well founded as investigators working on behalf of the ongoing investigation into the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama have found yet another lead in a growing mountain of evidence within the public records section of the British National Archives indicating the occurrence of at least four vital events registered to the name of Barack Obama, taking place in the British Protectorate of East Africa (Kenya) between 1953 and 1963, including the birth of two sons before 1963.
The record of birth of a second son prior to Kenyan independence is significant because biographical information about Obama’s family indicates Obama Sr. fathered only one other son prior to Obama II’s birth.
The books containing hand written line records of vital events attributed to Obama are contained in Series RG36 of the Family Records section in the Kew branch of the BNA. The hand written line records first discovered in 2009, indicate several events were registered to the name Barack Obama (appears to be handwritten and spelled “Burack” and “Biraq”) beginning in 1953 and include two births recorded in 1958 and 1960, a marriage license registration in 1954 and a birth in 1961. Barack Obama is said to have died in 1982 and had married at least once more in Kenya and had at least one more child in 1968, but no record of these were found in the BNA because, according to the Archives’ desk reference, the events occurred after Kenya achieved independence from British colonial rule in 1963.
To date, Barack Obama II is the only known alleged son of Obama Sr. born after 1960 and before the independence of Kenya became official in 1963.
(Excerpt) Read more at thedailypen.blogspot.com ...
You see...the silly part is this...if that ever was a black person’s hand, and if that black person was Frank Marshall Davis, and if they had left him in the photograph, then what would that PROVE? We already know that the father of SAD knew FMD, so if he were to have appeared in the photograph, what mysterious secret would that reveal?
Nothing.
So to have him removed and only leave his hand there is..well, stupid.
At the least, I expect a photoshopped image to serve a purpose, no matter how clumsy.
All this discussion serves is to revert the discussion back to Frank Marshall Davis.
Of course it does! Great work! I suppose it all depends on what you are looking for...
Not looking for anything. But I am wondering if Obama's wanting people to find this stuff. Just wondering. That was my point for pointing out the photo in his Facebook page.
I would LOVE to see you provide the proof that it's just a brown bag. Not a challenge to you but a challenge to my question "why would Obama be putting out stuff like his BC that can easily be proven to be forged?". I know you are a intelligent person by your interesting and VERY informative comments and threads so I do trust your judgement. Problem is, if what you say is correct about the bag - I'm not the only one who thinks it's a fist but people on World Net Daily or doubters on Twitter would not just take my word that it's a brown bag. I need to be able to provide the proof such as a jpg.
Appreciate your comments, but IMO it’s really not worth the effort, like someone wrote upthread, ‘the murderer wore pink underpants’ ... if you were to make it clear that it was either a brown leather bag or a fist belonging to a black person, what’s next? Are they going to ask you, does the fist belong to a man or a woman?
It’s like a vortex. All it does is suck you in. And gets you nowhere.
The very least you could expect from a fake image is that it indicates they were trying to achieve something by creating the fake.
This one says nothing. There are other images of SAD with her daughter taken in Hawaii around the same time.
For me that's a major jump. I would need more than a comparison of knuckles to conclude Frank Marshall Davis is Obama's father or that he was originally in the photo with Obama at the airport.
Just wondering why this stuff Obama's releasing is so easily debunked. That's all.
I enjoy all of your work!
I went and got a PRE- PAID Debit “master card” from Western Union and Entered all the correct info and I was declined.. This is the message they sent to my inbox..
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Archives support. We appreciate that you took the time to send us your concerns. This is an *AUTOMATED REPLY* not meant to be impersonal but just to let you know that we have received your support request.
We will work on a resolution for your request in the order it was received. Expect that you will hear back from a Member Services Representative in 2 business days or less (usually less!). Our team is working hard on a response to you 7 days a week from 7am to 6pm CST.
If you have not received a response, please check your bulk or junk email and folders as your email may have routed our response there.
IMPORTANT: We want to assist you as quickly as possible so please do NOT re-send your inquiry in a separate email, as this will only slow down our response to you.
If you have additional information regarding this inquiry, do REPLY to this message and it will be added to the support request automatically.
Thanks for choosing Archives.com. We appreciate your patience, have a great day,
Archives.com Member Services Team
carp, if you’re still looking for a hijack, here’s your chance.
Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret
Posted on Friday, 4 July 2008 9:35:19 AM by SE Mom
click here to read article
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2040486/posts
[ Report Abuse | Bookmark ]
NOW THERE’S AN EXAMPLE OF A THREAD THAT WAS HIJACKED, IT WENT TO ALMOST NINE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED COMMENTS AND WE DISCUSSED EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN THAT WAS IN ANY WAY CONNECTED TO THE CURRENT AFFAIRS, INCLUDING THE COST OF AIR TRAVEL, THE RENOVATIONS AT THE HONOLULU AIRPORT, THE HISTORY OF KENYA, POLITICS IN KENYA, CUSTOMS OF THE NATIVES AND THEIR DRESS...AND NOT ONCE DID ANYONE ACCUSE ANYONE OF HIJACKING.
the next long thread was:
Is this really it? (re: possible Obama’s Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid
Posted on Sunday, 2 August 2009 6:35:53 PM by rxsid
OVER TEN THOUSAND COMMENTS.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=1
THOSE WERE THE DAYS BEFORE THE THREAD-POLICE!
Look at those eyes. Fish eyes.
I know. I was there on both threads (and others), lurking and learning and absorbing, but rarely posting. And it was not only informative but great fun, a true exchange of ideas and theories, from which facts have grown and fallacies have been debunked.
We know so much more now, but that’s where it started, wading through the weeds.
There is yet more hiding in those weeds, and more wading and more searching to be done. Don’t get discouraged.
Waiting for a patriot inside the National Archives (or Occidental or Columbia, for that matter). . .
” If anyone else out there wants to give it a shot go for it !!!!”.. - 1. anna obama death certificate 1970
2. anna dunham death certificate 1970
3. anna toots death certificate 1970
links futher back - maybe they will accept you
long live FreeRepublic, with the accent on the Free!
BROWN DEER DID YOU SEE?
To: chicken head
” If anyone else out there wants to give it a shot go for it !!!!”.. - 1. anna obama death certificate 1970
2. anna dunham death certificate 1970
3. anna toots death certificate 1970
links futher back - maybe they will accept you
771 posted on Friday, 27 July 2012 11:35:53 AM by chicken head
“And they account for him by telling the locals that was MALIK.”
Or, alternatively, one day it will occur to you that the Mal-Val narrative and the necessary extensions rationalized to exclude Stanley Ann from being the mom, are 100% Conspiracy Theory (CT) with no supporting verifiable evidence!
Let me get this right. It is your contention that:
1. In the family photo with BHO Sr. and Ruth Baker the “dark boy” is a person now known as Roman Obama, and the “light boy” is Mark Obama, and Roman was passed off by Senior and Ruth as Malik Obama. You, yourself, along with most FReepers who have commented have previously estimated the age of the boys to be age 2-3 for the light boy and 4-5 for the dark boy with a two year difference, IIRC
2. In the two studio photos of one light and one dark boy identified by Mark as being himself and David, you contend that the dark boy is again Roman Obama except that now the light boy is the person currently in the White House, NOT Mark, but actually the son of Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf. IIRC most FReepers see these as being the same boys in both the family photo and the studio shoot of the two boys and see all of the photos as taken very nearly at the same time.
As I said, only CT can support your casting and narrative, but even CT can't make your time-line work, IMO, because it would require time-travel!
You have variously estimated the birth year of the “real BHO II,” Roman Obama, as being from 1959 to 1961, IIRC depending on whether you are rationalizing Roman as being babysat in Seattle in January 1961 by Mary Toutonghi. Up-thread, I think you said 1961 was the birth year and that is what Roman Obama of Ghana uses.
Roman was brought to Seattle, according to you, by an alternate Anna S. Obama who was an unknown wife of BHO Sr. a.k.a Anna Toot of the Kenyan family account in 2004. You frequently post the party picture with BHO Sr. sitting next to Asian woman labeled Anna or Ann and insinuate that she is BHO Sr's wife and the mother of "black as ink" Roman and also that she is a Filipina...the wife noted by the 1964 INS officer in the FOIA files (for which there is no corroboration). The Ann/Anna at the party with BHO Sr. was recently suggested to be a Japanese American citizen by a classmate from Cambodia, IIRC.
Per your most recent speculation Roman was brought back to Kenya from the USA by BHO Sr. and Ruth in August 1964 where Roman subsequently appears in the picture with young Mark.
This is where the time-lines break down. Ruth says Mark was born Nov 28, 1965 and provides a lot of verifiable detail to Maraniss surrounding that event. If Mark is age 2-3 in the family photo, then the year of the photo would be 1967-68. Therefore your version of “Roman” would be age 6-7 if born in 1961, or way older than the “dark boy” appears to be in any of the photos.
Using the Ruth Baker narrative, the family picture was taken c. 1970 when Mark, the darker, older boy, would have been 4-5 and the younger David would have been 2-3. Ruth's narrative and the pictures match.
Turning to the studio picture of the two boys in which they seem a bit older, than in the family photo, am I correct in stating that you believe that picture that you say is the current BHO II (Barry) and the former BHO II (Roman) was taken somewhere in the US before the big baby-switch? That would be before Senior and Ruth took newly renamed Roman to Kenya and newly named Barry Obama was taken to HI and placed in the care of babysitter Stanley Ann who showed up with him in the zoo at age 3 in 1964?
If you do claim all of the abouve, IMO your picture identifications don't work because the boy you claim is “Roman,” born in 1961 appears to be very nearly the same age in both the family and the studio pictures. You appear to claim these pictures were taken 3-4 years apart (Roman with Barry in 1964 vs. Roman with Mark, Senior and Ruth in 1967-68 passed off as Malik). "Roman" cannot be age 4-5 in both 1964 and also in 1967-68!
In summary IMO, your narrative is pure conspiracy speculation divorced from a coherent time-line. Ruth's narrative for her boys, Mark and David, is rational and verifiable as told to Maraniss.
OK...I’ve alerted a Freeper who understands genealogy, don’t post any more on it until he gets back to us. You are posting comments to yourself now, ease up.
The 0bomba people created all kinds of junk photoshopped photos because they didn’t realize that so many people would not believe Dreams but would look much deeper. And once those shopped photos were “out there”, they couldn’t make better ones. Second, they’re so arrogant they think everyone else is stupid. Third, they’re nasty little insects who like giving the world the middle finger salute.
But I think the main reason they are so poorly manufactured is because they are so arrogant and thought we are so stupid, that they didn’t need really good ones. Plus, they didn’t have much to work with, since his entire freaking life is a lie (the life presented to the public).
As for what you said:
“But I am wondering if Obama’s wanting people to find this stuff. Just wondering. That was my point for pointing out the photo in his Facebook page.”
Nah, that’s too artificially clever. Keep in mind, these fiends have other things they’re working on, like destroying the country and as much of the world as they can, and now they’re on the run; Arpaio has them by the short hairs and they realize that many people are not just lying down and taking it! So they’re busy, very busy...
And the best thing of all:
THEY DON’T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE HAVE FOUND OUT!!! So they can’t play defense that well.
HA HA HA HA!!!!
You know, it might not be a bad idea to read through those old threads again. There may be clues there that would make sense now, avenues not fully explored. It never hurts to look again with new eyes.
I don’t believe that they succeeded in scrubbing everything. There are records somewhere waiting to be found.
Hmm, maybe a compendium of links of some of the long research threads might be a good idea, to get people who have not perhaps paid so much attention until now, up to speed.
The two long threads, the African Colonial thread and the Auntie thread, RaceBannon’s sighting, more, in no particular order:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2450158/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2405994/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2040486/posts?q=1&;page=8401
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2489872/posts?q=1&;page=1#1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2457491/posts?page=1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2392618/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2397370/posts?page=30
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2423856/posts?page=1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306351/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2093742/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2317622/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2390560/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2392187/posts?page=94#94
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2400624/posts?page=18#18
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2633542/posts?q=1&;page=51
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2631130/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2479793/posts?page=1
http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/02/21/obamas-lying-blue-lips/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2680854/posts?page=106#106
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2512143/posts?q=1&;page=1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2838105/posts?q=1&;page=801
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2512143/posts?q=1&;page=451
Thank you, I will make a document of them to keep them handy.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.