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OBAMA’S KENYAN BIRTH RECORDS DISCOVERED IN BRITISH NATIONAL ARCHIVES
The Daily Pen ^ | July 18, 2012 | Dan Crosby

Posted on 07/19/2012 5:28:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: Brown Deer

(JUST A THEORY, and a wild one—lol)- #1. Virginia Goeldner said her sister-in-law actually raised Barrack Obama, or Barry as they called him, when he was young, after his mother died in 1970.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2162856/posts

[8]Stanley Armour Dunham married Madelyn Lee Payne on May 5, 1940, the night of Madelyn’s senior prom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Armour_Dunham

what if madelyn and stanley armour got married after the senior prom cause she was several months pregnant? and had a girl named anna “toot” dunham and 1 1/2 years later had stanley ann dunham. and anna “toot” acually died in 1970. It sure would explain alot with the anna and ann confusion.. a school year book would do the trick just by looking ahead a grade or two.. that would be some trippy chit if was so—lol

Theory only—lol.. anna “toot” dunham and stanley ann dunham.. I mean a father cant expect a son on the first try—lol


701 posted on 07/26/2012 6:30:55 AM PDT by chicken head
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To: chicken head

I’m not convinced the newspaper birth announcements are real (still working that angle) BUT...even if they are real they just say that Mr and Mrs Barack Obama had a son. It does not say who Mrs Obama is and it does not say who the son was. They may have just picked that birth as one to build the story on.


702 posted on 07/26/2012 6:42:05 AM PDT by LivingNet
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To: LivingNet

Thats right- after they married her name would have been anna obama.. its just theory, but im crossing my fingers—lol.. mabe we can get a school year book to varify this wild claim—lmao—maybe the one fron Vernon texas, when stanley an was young


703 posted on 07/26/2012 6:53:36 AM PDT by chicken head
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To: Brown Deer

Thanks for the heritage lines.

Auntie Toot (sounds like Annie) IS an HI term. Was there just a week and had several people call me that. I asked a native the significance of the name and was told it was a term of endearment given to marriage woman, elder or wise elder. He was the one who informed me it was Auntie not Annie even though it sounded like the later.


704 posted on 07/26/2012 7:18:43 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: bluecat6; SvenMagnussen; chicken head

Does anyone have access to IRS records from the time? 0 has been yelling about WMR tax papers...He often projects what he is doing by accusing others of the same thing....Is the secret in family IRS records?....
Back to the family trust theory which SR could receive a share of while married or legal father of JR. Placing Jr with Toot would possibly negate his interest in the family business and be another reason for his visit...An attempt to continue his work in the “oil industry” as mentioned in Chicken head’s post above. Oil in HI....no in Kansas yes! rollo’s legacy....the reason Dunham married Mad in the first place...for the money!


705 posted on 07/26/2012 7:33:59 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama

That’s odd. I lived in HI for 14 years and never heard anyone called that. I heard “Tutu” used exclusively for grandparent, usually grandmother; “Auntie” is used frequently for an older female relative or family friend. Also, the Hawaiian accent accentuates the “t” sound in “Auntie” quite strongly, don’t see how it could possibly sound like “Annie”. I never heard “Autie” and “tutu” used together, and never heard “Toot” used instead of “tutu”.

Technically, “tutu wahine” means grandmother, and “tutu kane” grandfather, but generally “tutu” is used for grandmother. Maybe among Hawaiian speakers they use tutu wahine and tutu kane, but among the general public I didn’t hear it.


706 posted on 07/26/2012 8:06:26 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Seizethecarp

I believe Ann could have claimed Barry on her 1973 tax return if she was sending money for his support to her parents and it was more than half what it cost to maintain him.


707 posted on 07/26/2012 8:28:42 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: SvenMagnussen

You make a compelling case for your hypothesis. If only there were some proof.


708 posted on 07/26/2012 8:36:05 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Seizethecarp

There’s another possibility for who that 1961 birth in Kenya might be: A recent biography of Barack Sr. quoted a friend of his, in Kenya, who reported that Sr. was outraged to learn that his wife Kezia, back in Kenya, became pregnant by another man while he was in Hawaii. This happened shortly before, according to the friend, he gave up on that marriage to Kezia and sought a new wife—that being Ann (according to the tale told in the book). Kezia, if she continued with her pregnancy, would have given birth in 1961, after he married Ann, if he did marry her. The biographer mentions the pregnancy but not its eventual resolution. Would Kezia’s child be considered Sr.’s child, because he was her husband of record? We know that Mboya was corresponding with Sr., back in Hawaii, about his wife in Kenya. Just a few more “facts” to throw into the mix.


709 posted on 07/26/2012 8:52:30 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Seizethecarp

It’s always possible that the story about Kezia’s pregnancy is planted disinformation, put there as a rationale, should the British records ever show up. Why, one wonders, was Auma taken from Kezia and put into boarding school, in 1964, or thereabouts, when Auma was 4?


710 posted on 07/26/2012 8:54:43 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: little jeremiah
Yes, my hosts, who were eight generation Christian conservatives who lived on the big island explained the term for grandmother, grandfather etc. They did not call me any of those names and we weren't discussing those terms at this time here.
Thought it interesting but not relevant to this discussion.
My friend was called Aunti Tutu by her family. She was the youngest of the siblings had five older brothers no children but and all her nieces, nephew, great nieces and nephews all called her by that name. Had to ask her given name. No one called her by it. Even the neighbors and church friends referred to her by the name of endearment. And she is a dear loving sweet Christian woman.
711 posted on 07/26/2012 8:57:36 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: edge919

“what many people don’t understand is that those announcements do not list and thus, do not prove a place of birth.”

Or a child’s name or mother’s name, for that matter.


712 posted on 07/26/2012 8:59:06 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: LivingNet

I just noticed in the picture in the upper right his right hand...he must have a right arm made of rubber. Does that seem way out of skew to anyone else?
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The Elongated Man. In the other photo, that same arm: Limp hand because the bracelet is cutting off his circulation? Look at the indentation! Follow the line of the arm. This is one of the classic photoshopped images.


713 posted on 07/26/2012 9:23:20 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: SvenMagnussen

Sven,
I meant on the form itself, above where the names have been filled in, -in parentheses and not in parentheses-, it says “additions (deletions)”

I take of to mean that if one is adding a name to the passport, it is to have no parentheses around it. Then if one wishes to remove a name, it is to be enclosed with parentheses.

In the case you posted, there is a name without parentheses, with parentheses, AND all of them have been lined out.

Would that show a transition from “soebarkah” to “Barack Hussein Obama” to “none” as far as SADO’s passport is concerned?

Earlier passports from SADO would shed light on this, but they’re like hens teeth right now....


714 posted on 07/26/2012 9:26:26 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: chicken head

Interesting post from that link:

“To: jarofants

Thanks - you were so fast that I didn’t even have time to start to search for the info.

Also saw this about Obama’s stepfather and grandfather -

http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/New-discovery-links-Dunham-aliases-t,o-Dunham-front-companies-and-real-estate-transactions.aspx

“It should also be noted that Stanley Dunham (Obama’s grandfather) started an Oil company for Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia called Mobil Oil.. so that Standard Oil could make transfers to Indonesia using Lolo’s Oil front. Tweny-percent of the Standard Oil company’s Oil went to powering German Submarines during WWII using a different Oil front in Indonesia prior to Lolos.”

The plot thickens....

32 posted on Tue Apr 27 2010 19:03:36 GMT-0500 (CDT) by nolongerademocrat (”Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have.” B’rachot 30b) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Repli”


715 posted on 07/26/2012 10:07:45 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: SvenMagnussen

Is the “supplementary explanatory statement under oath or affirmation” redacted? There should be a statement included in the records that explains WHY Soebarkah was struck from her passport.


716 posted on 07/26/2012 10:37:28 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: SvenMagnussen

Is the “supplementary explanatory statement under oath or affirmation” redacted? There should be a statement included in the records that explains WHY Soebarkah was struck from her passport.


717 posted on 07/26/2012 10:37:28 AM PDT by Greenperson
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Oh, BP2, where are you?

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Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:35:01 PM by bushpilot1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2501812/posts

(Excerpted)

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“According to the family, Obama’s father travelled to America to study at the University of Hawaii in 1959.

While there, he worked for an oil company...”

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To: Recovering_Democrat

Oh yeah - I have read that Obama’s grandfather worked for Standard Oil in Kansas too. Not sure what the grandmother was doing at the time.

Also of note is the fact that they mentioned Obama’s family is one of the few muslim families in the area.

10 posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:40:00 PM by nolongerademocrat

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Madelyn Dunham’s father worked for Rockefeller of Standard oil. Rollo C Payne. He leased his land for drilling to Standard oil.. Did you hear stanley dunham worked for standard oil too?

23 posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:54:00 PM by OafOfOffice

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Yeah, I read somewhere that he actually worked in the oil fields - I’ll try to find that info again and if I can, I’ll post the link.

29 posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:56:42 PM by nolongerademocrat

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Also saw this about Obama’s stepfather and grandfather -

http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/New-discovery-links-Dunham-aliases-to-Dunham-front-companies-and-real-estate-transactions.aspx

“It should also be noted that Stanley Dunham (Obama’s grandfather) started an Oil company for Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia called Mobil Oil.. so that Standard Oil could make transfers to Indonesia using Lolo’s Oil front. Tweny-percent of the Standard Oil company’s Oil went to powering German Submarines during WWII using a different Oil front in Indonesia prior to Lolos.”

32 posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:03:36 PM by nolongerademocrat

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Buy the book THE ROCKEFELLERS, it’s brilliant. Co-authored by David Horowitz. Just another huge trust suberverted...by the Left and idiot descendants.

Standard Oil runs all the way through...it starts with THE ROCKEFELLER BROTHERS TRUST and the CHASE MANHATTAN BANK bringing over thirty thousand foreign students, many from Africa, to the US to study...FROM THE EARLY FIFTIES.

The information came from the book “THE ROCKEFELLERS” - co authored by David Horowitz.

72 posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:55:38 PM by Fred Nerks

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To: OafOfOffice

Have you seen the stuff talking about Obama being Michael Rockefeller’s son (with a woman from New Guinea)?

It alleges that Dunham and Obama were paid to present BO as their son - it is interesting.... I think some of the articles even came out of Kansas.

99 posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 7:59:43 PM by nolongerademocrat

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To: nolongerademocrat

From your link - http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/New-discovery-links-Dunham-aliases-to-Dunham-front-companies-and-real-estate-transactions.aspx

From ComputerWorld:

“Classified information about the communications, navigation and management electronics on Marine One, the helicopter now used by President Barack Obama, were reportedly discovered in a publicly available shared folder on a computer in Tehran, Iran, after apparently being accidentally leaked over a peer-to-peer file-sharing network. “

189 posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:56:11 AM by bgill

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To: nolongerademocrat; All

Photo circa 1945

Madelyn Payne Dunham worked on a Boeing B-29 assembly line in Wichita. Her husband, Stanley Armour Dunham, enlisted as an Army soldier in January 1942. He served in Europe with the 1830th Ordnance Supply and Maintenance Company, Aviation. During D-Day (June 6, 1944), his unit helped to support the 9th Air Force, deploying to France six weeks after D-Day.

He was discharged from the Army more than a year later on August 30, 1945.

It has been rumored that Ann Dunham’s father, Stanley Armour Dunham (purportedly a Marxist), had been suspected of espionage during World War II and that Boeing has a 1944 security file on either him or Madelyn Dunham in connection with suspected sabotage of B-17 aircraft at its Wichita plant and the theft of B-29 blueprints.

If true, it’s obvious that Boeing could not make any charges “stick”.

However, it may have prompted the Dunham’s to pick up and leave any Kansas problems behind — Kansas, where Stanley Armour, Madelyn and Ann Dunham were ALL born — eventually settling down in Seattle, home of another Boeing aircraft plant, before finally winding up in Hawaii in 1960.

193 posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:39:24 AM by BP2

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Long, Long, Long Article:

The Three Stooges go to Washington: Part 3
Barack Hussein Obama
By Don Nicoloff

http://www.whale.to/b/nicoloff3.html

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To: OafOfOffice

Uh Oh!

OBAMA - Identity Theft! Is Barack 0bama a felon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHYwIM2gpJE&feature=related

Obama’s grandmom volunteered at the courthouse?

208 posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:40:54 PM by nolongerademocrat

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To: nolongerademocrat

That is how they thought all the numerous SSN were retrieved. She took them off dead people while volunteering.

210 posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:47:19 PM by OafOfOffice

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To: OafOfOffice

I had only heard that she got them while working at the bank.

213 posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:54:38 PM by nolongerademocrat

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To: nolongerademocrat

Who knows really. You can get obituaries everyday in the newspaper now? And SSN’s are readily available online through social security death index once the people are deceased.

I remember reading how people took on other identities in those times but I can’t remember how. SSN’s at one time were on personal checks. Probably now with computerized Social Security, Obama would not have gotten away with it.

214 posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:29:18 PM by OafOfOffice

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To: nolongerademocrat; LucyT; STARWISE

THe thought ran through my mind as I read the link....Did SADOS have a sex change operation thereby creating a new identity?

230 posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:12:49 PM by hoosiermama

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To: hoosiermama

Her SSN is still valid, and being used by a Scot Dunham in New York.

249 posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 5:14:30 PM by null and void

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Barack Obama: Who’s your daddy? (excerpted)

By Don Nicoloff

Saturday, July 18, 2009

The time has come when we shall lay to rest the question of Barack Hussein Obama’s (aka Barry Soetoro, et al) real father, the reason for so many name changes, and the revelation of hundreds, if not thousands of aliases tied to fraudulent real estate, insurance, and money-laundering transactions.

Let us be frank. Obama (aka Soetore, et al) was not born in Kenya. If he had been , he could prove it. He cannot. The fact that Obama (aka Soetoro, et al) has been able to find others willing to lie (or die) for him in that regard does not make it so. If he intended for us to believe that lie, he would have planted that seed in his autobiography, Dreams from My Father, the book that professional forensic analysts conclude was likely written by Weather Underground terrorist, William Ayers.

Obama (aka Soetoro, et al) was not born in Hawaii, either. If he had been, he could prove that. Presenting forged, fraudulent documentation and photos to the public via newspapers, magazines, TV show, political advertisements, and the Internet as substitutes for genuine documentation does not make it true, either. In fact, if we are to believe what his alleged African relatives swear they witnessed, Obama (aka Soetoro, et al) could not have been born in Hawaii, could he?

And what Truth could be so secret that the government of Hawaii must seal his Certificate of Live Birth? From what communicable disease are those official documents being protected? Swine flu? No, in this cast, the only possibility hinges on corruption—at the highest (or lowest) level.

So, where was Barack Obama (aka Barry Soetoro, et al) born and/or raised?

Papua, New Guinea. That’s right—Papua, New Guinea. All the signs are there. it is only a matter of connecting the dots and reading between the lines.

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The Dunham family: A web of misdirected tales

Barack Obama’s (aka Soetoro, et al) family “from Kansas” is a scripted fairy tale. Hoax might be the more appropriate description.

The characters: Stanley Armour Dunham, Madelyn Lee (Payne) Dunham, and Stanley Ann Dunham were agents working for John D. Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Company and later, his Rockefeller Foundation. Rolla Charles Payne. Madelyn’s alleged father and Obama’s alleged maternal great-grandfather, worked as an agent for Standard Oil and was issued his Social Security number in Oklahoma, not as a farmer in Kansas. Misdirection is a common ploy of the international intelligence community, relying on the premise that those being misdirected lack the intelligence to tell the difference between a lie and the truth. The Dunham family’s story begins with misdirection.

http://web.me.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Articles/Entries/2009/7/18_The_Three_Stooges_go_to_Washington,_Part_7-A.html

282 posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:53:14 AM by danamco

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To: GOPJ; All

Thank God Obama had grandparents who loved him...
sounds like a pretty lonely life in many ways.

Yes, they loved him like they were his own parents, didn’t they?

You gotta give them credit for taking care of Obama Jr until he left the nest.

But SOMETHING happened in those formative years that helped evolve that innocent child ...

3 yrs? - circa 1963

... into the race-baiting, Socialist Megalomaniac that he is today.

And the VAST MAJORITY of those formative years happened on Stanley Armour and Madelyn Payne Dunham’s watch, BEFORE Obama Jr left Hawaii to start school in Los Angeles (Occidental College) in 1979:

286 posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:07:36 AM by BP2 (I think, therefore I’m a conservative)

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Stanley Dunham’s bogus Military Uniform:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2501812/posts?page=216#216

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To: danamco; LucyT; BP2
Just looking around on this Don Nicoloff guy.

http://bit.ly/cP0OhD

The Austro-Hungarian treasures, that Canaris rescued from Hitler, was placed there in 1955... when a treaty was forced on Austria. This treaty exiled all members of the royal family who refused to join the Rothschild new world order. This is the reason that Gunther and his family were resettled in Oklahoma in 1955.

Gunther studied law with Admiral Canaris. He also studied international finance.

Admiral Canaris was the head of Faction Two... a worldwide group that joined together to defeat the group who had raped and pillaged their countries, killed their leaders and forced the rest into exile. Faction Two has been working on a plan to end the “Rothschild International Banker” rule.

Step one was bankrupting the Federal Reserve. That part of the operation went online in the late 60s and was finalized in 1995, the same year that the secret treaty with the exiled royals expired... 50 years... almost to the day!

The next step was to bankrupt all of the member banks and corporations that were owned by the 300 families that make up the international bankers “City of London”.

This is going on right now.

Remember... the head of the Abwehr, Admiral Wilhelm Canaris created Faction Two. Faction Two’s highest level is made up of the Original Knights Templars... not some phony group created by Hitler cronies or One-Worlders like Maurice Strong.

The war between the Rothschilds and the Templars is a ideological war that started so far back in history that the name Rothschild or Bauer hadn’t even been created yet. But to outline this history would take more time than I have.

The reason that I am writing this is because Don Nicoloff states in one of his articles that President Obama worked for the Abwehr. If this is true, then the conversion to CIA would be a natural one since most of the surviving Abwehr officers were also put into the CIA.

If Obama is a tool of the Abwehr, then it means that he is a reverse trojan who is in acure danger by the very people who picked him to become their “puppet” in the White House. This group is the Rothschild Chicago crime family which probably set up business in Chicago BEFORE the Civil War, which they started!

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296 posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:32:06 PM by OafOfOffice

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Exhibit A in this file of the Obama divorce papers appears to be a return receipt, signed by Barack H. Obama.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18130289/Obama-1964-Divorce-Papers-13-Pages-Missing-Pg-11

Scroll down; it’s the second to last page. Is it bogus?

304 posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:13:19 PM by Greenperson

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Philipe Toutonghi born in Turkey about 1903 and his Egyptian wife Lorice (1907-1991) departed Alexandria, Egypt on the ship Vulcania May 26, 1946 and arrived in NYC on June 12, 1946 with their sons Joseph age 13 & Michel age 7, and daughters Celeste age 19, Therese age 16, Jean age 11 & Mary age 10, who were all born in Egypt.

Celeste married Harvey Wolfe and died in 2005. Mary J. Toutonghi who lives in Soldotna, AK was born in November 1935. She coincidently has a friend named Madeline Payne from Seattle listed on her facebook page.

357 posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:30:36 PM by Brown Deer

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PHILIPPE E. TOUTONGHI Born January 6, 1899 in Iskenderun, Turkey; died July 7, 2000 in Seattle. Husband of the late Lorice Toutonghi. Survived by his daughters, Agnes Van Bevern of Hillsborough, CA, Celeste Wolfe of Santa
Maria, CA, Theresa Johnson of Seattle, and Mary Hurt of Malakoff, Texas; sons, Joseph and John Toutonghi, both of Seattle, and Michael Toutonghi of Sacramento, CA; 30 grandchildren and 18 great-grandchildren. Fluent in French,
Arabic, Italian, Latin, Greek and English, he taught French and Latin at Seattle Prep, Seattle University, and Gonzaga University, where he retired at age 66.

He continued teaching language arts in California until age 72. A French poet, he received the first prize at the “Academie des Jeux Florimontains”, France, in 1929, for his poem, L’ Immaculee. Recitation of the Rosary will be Tuesday, July 11, 2000, at 11 a.m., followed by the Funeral Mass at 11:30 a.m., BOTH at St. Joseph Church, 732 18th Ave East, Seattle. Interment, Holyrood Cemetery. HOFFNER FISHER & HARVEY Remembrances may be made to the Jesuits Seminary Fund, c/o Provincial Curia, 2222 N.W. Hoyt Ave., Portland, OR, 97210.

-— Seattle Times

366 posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:09:39 AM by Brown Deer

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Read More:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2501812/posts

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718 posted on 07/26/2012 10:54:38 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Fred Nerks

The timeline really messes with one’s head. Weren’t early stories out that claimed that David was 15 when he died?


719 posted on 07/26/2012 10:54:59 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Fred Nerks; chicken head; LucyT; hoosiermama
The most obvious explanation, which doesn't rely on Mal-Val CT, is simply that semi-literate people had a copy of “Dreams” and they mashed up alleged “white” wife Stanley Ann with the nickname for her mom, Toot, a name which was in their copy of Dreams. These same folks told the reporter the wife was white. Gramma Sarah was on the brink of collapse from exhaustion on the day this interview was given and could have said anything.

On the record, Stanley Ann visited Gramma Sarah in this village and befriended Keziah explicitly as an ex-wife of BHI Sr. and mother of BHO II at the time.

You have to resort to CT, IMO, to persist in the belief that a different woman other than Stanley Ann was the mother of BHO II in 1961.

720 posted on 07/26/2012 11:25:00 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: BP2; nolongerademocrat; OafOfOffice; bgill; danamco; null and void; Brown Deer; hoosiermama; ...
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Ping to # 718.

Excerpted from April 27, 2010. A lot of information and photos in the thread.

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721 posted on 07/26/2012 11:40:07 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT; BP2

Where in the world is BP2?


722 posted on 07/26/2012 11:56:11 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: djf

I have long held that the the misoath was a deliberately planned event. It provided opportunity for Obama to avoid publicly swearing to upholding the Constitution on the usual Christian bible which was being used. Roberts was not a true USA patriot from the day he allowed Obama to have ‘court’ in his chambers and who knows how long before. People should recall that Obama openly expressed some parts of the Constitution needed ‘change’. The Nation now does need ‘change’ from Obama but it seems this might be difficult after watching him giving and receiving kisses at pre Olympics basketball events.


723 posted on 07/26/2012 11:57:15 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: hoosiermama

I miss BP2 also. He/she hasn’t posted in nearly two years.


724 posted on 07/26/2012 12:11:58 PM PDT by Faith
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To: LucyT; tsowellfan
Can anyone get a link to DT's Tweet question on millions of dollars spent? TIA


725 posted on 07/26/2012 1:06:59 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Fred Nerks

I agree that the minor unaccompanied child is/was a dilemma for anyone!

However, as a foreigner I delt, all my professional life, with all kind of countries Immigration authorities. Now today is total different than it was in the sixties seventies and no Immigration were more strict than the U.S.’s.

If we had call on ports in the USSR, we used our Seaman’s Book as ID there, because had we used our Passports, which we used in the U.S. ports we would have been denied shore leaves because of the communist’s stamps.

Our crew lists had to be endorsed by the U.S. consulates in the last port for verification. If we could not presenting such crew list, NO shore leaves, and armed guards placed at our gangway.

Another intimidating experience was that every crewmembers had to present his private parts in front of the quarantee doctor as well. ONLY in the U.S. The Frenchmen later took care of that getting rid of this shameless procedure.

The U.S. INS had NO mercy whatsoever regardless of circumstances.

Then again I was requesting how he was shipped to the U.S. from Indonesia???


726 posted on 07/26/2012 1:29:36 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: F15Eagle

This?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump


727 posted on 07/26/2012 1:46:12 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LivingNet

There may be someting to that wild theory on post 701 about stanley ann having a older sister named anna toot dunham?—lol— the puzzle sure would fall in place if it were true- know anyone who could varify?

http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/obama-mystery-theater-vernon-texas/


728 posted on 07/26/2012 2:07:14 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: LivingNet

http://www.archives.com/GA.aspx?FirstName=anna&LastName=dunham&BirthYear=&DeathYear=1970&MarriageYear=&DivorceYear=&Location=US&_act=registerDR&RecordType=2&CollectionId=

2 death records on ANNA dunham 1970


729 posted on 07/26/2012 2:15:34 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: LucyT

Yeah that’s Donald’s account but you have to use SnapBird I think - I don’t have a Twitter so it doesn’t seem to work for me. I’d like to get to that exact message which has scrolled off.


730 posted on 07/26/2012 2:20:33 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Brown Deer

Anna Toot died in 1841. There was also a family named TOUT in Hawaii; one has to remember, the family in Kenya had only one person who could read, and that was Onyango. He might have read TOUT and they heard it as TOOT.
In any event, the author of ‘Dreams’ just might have thought it would be wise to incorporate the names Anna and Toot into the story...can’t have lose Anna Toots hanging around, and while he was at it, what a good opportunity to incorporate Ann as well.
Ann S Obama. The Ann that Abercrombie remembers?


731 posted on 07/26/2012 2:24:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: chicken head

1 death record for anna obama in 1970?

http://www.archives.com/GA.aspx?FirstName=anna+&LastName=obama&BirthYear=&DeathYear=1970&MarriageYear=&DivorceYear=&Location=US&_act=registerDR&RecordType=2&CollectionId=


732 posted on 07/26/2012 2:26:47 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: rusty millet

Some of those images have been randomly captured from various biographical videos. Who created the images I have no idea.

here’s one link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mElQ4BAeF3o&feature=related


733 posted on 07/26/2012 2:29:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: chicken head

5 death records for anna “toot” in 1970

http://www.archives.com/GA.aspx?FirstName=anna+&LastName=toot&BirthYear=&DeathYear=1970&MarriageYear=&DivorceYear=&Location=US&_act=registerDR&RecordType=2&CollectionId=


734 posted on 07/26/2012 2:33:53 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: F15Eagle

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/225326558234148864


735 posted on 07/26/2012 2:43:37 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: Greenperson

there were two webpages that claim to show a birth and death year for the mythical ‘David’

http://www.geditcom.com/samples/Obamas/INDIs/II89.html#pedi

this one contains the image of a boy with one black arm and one white arm, a boy who looks polynesian. There was another page with a different birth and death year, which has been removed.

MALIK in Kenya uses that same image here:

http://www.barackhobamafoundation.org/Barack-H-Obama-Sr.html

THE BIRTH AND DEATH YEARS DO NOT MATCH.


736 posted on 07/26/2012 2:44:24 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: tsowellfan

You’re awesome!


737 posted on 07/26/2012 2:45:41 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: LucyT

Donald J Trump: Why would @BarackObama be spending millions of dollars to hide his records if there was nothing to hide?— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 17, 2012


738 posted on 07/26/2012 2:49:32 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: Fred Nerks

Barack Obama’s very own Facebook page album still has an obvious fake photo...

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150902090006749.401812.6815841748&type=3


739 posted on 07/26/2012 2:53:57 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: F15Eagle

740 posted on 07/26/2012 3:01:28 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: F15Eagle

How long ago is the tweet & what is it about?


741 posted on 07/26/2012 3:02:09 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: Seizethecarp
The most obvious explanation,

...is that when the kenyan student wrote home to his father, as the only one in the clan who could read, Onyango read his son's letters out to the family, in one of which letters the kenyan student told him he had married a white woman named Anna Toot and was working for an oil company. The kenyan may have written 'oil company' because it sounded a whole lot better than 'washing dishes in a cafe' which apparently he did, and he also stated on the INS docs that he had worked in the Dole pine-apple cannery for one month, which he, after having boasted in his fake Oxford accent, that he had a degree in Business Adminstration, may have thought was beneath him and didn't want the family knowing... In another letter at another time, he also wrote to tell his father that he had a son - and Zeituni, who was a girl at the time, remembers that letter. But when she tried to make it known, her statement was laughed and she was called a liar by most on FR, because, after all, that wasn't what they wanted to hear, they wanted to hear that the kenyan's child with the Anna Toot he wrote home about whom he said he had married, was born in Kenya.

...which doesn't rely on Mal-Val CT, is simply that semi-literate people had a copy of “Dreams” and they mashed up alleged “white” wife Stanley Ann with the nickname for her mom, Toot, a name which was in their copy of Dreams.

The information the family in the village in Kenya received came from letters the kenyan student wrote home, he also sent them photographs. He sent them a photograph of himself with his (mostly Filipino) co-workers at the pine-apple cannery, and the family thought that was him with his fellow students. The fact that a lot of the 'students' were not wearing shoes escaped their notice...which it would. Daphne Barak brought the photo back and published it as a photograph of the kenyan student AT HARVARD. So don't make the villagers out as total fools, idiots come in all shapes and sizes and colours. Did the villagers read 'Dreams' - or was that paragraph in 'Dreams' written to convince us that Stanley Ann had two more names, both ANNA and ANN and the TOOT in ANNA TOOT belonged to her mother? Probably. It's a chicken and egg thing. Which came first?

These same folks told the reporter the wife was white. Gramma Sarah was on the brink of collapse from exhaustion on the day this interview was given and could have said anything.

She's a cunning old woman, a survivor, but she's made a few slips of the tongue and now you never see her without her minder. As for exhaustion, I think she's as tough as nails.

On the record, Stanley Ann visited Gramma Sarah in this village and befriended Keziah explicitly as an ex-wife of BHI Sr. and mother of BHO II at the time.

IMO they went there to insinuate themselves into the family. I don't think zero's team has ever mentioned that on his first visit (whenever that was, reports vary) that his mother went with him. Neither has there been any mention that Alice Dewey was also there. Slips of the tongue from both. And from the little that Ruth had to say on the subject, it seems she didn't know about the kenyans OTHER WIFE FROM HAWAII when zero visited her. Think about it, she's been caring for the child of ANNA since the boy was almost four years of age and now comes Auma with zero and they tell her that he is the son of the white woman he married in the US.

You have to resort to CT, IMO, to persist in the belief that a different woman other than Stanley Ann was the mother of BHO II in 1961.

I have no need to resort to anything. That they needed to show up in a group of three to convince the village people that this was the wife and son from Hawaii that the kenyan wrote home about, tells me enough. You still haven't got your head around it, have you? Stanley Ann wasn't the mother of anyone in 1961.

742 posted on 07/26/2012 3:37:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: tsowellfan

I don’t see anything fake about that image, I never did, he’s holding a small leather bag under his arm, it’s not someone’s fist.


743 posted on 07/26/2012 3:42:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: chicken head

You’re going to find Dunhams in the thousands if you keep looking, and a lot of them will be named Anna.


744 posted on 07/26/2012 3:51:04 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

I was kinda interested in the anna obama i posted that died in 1970— very interesting.. i’m gonna have to get a credit card to see the file.. i’ll update later and post it— it might be something or it may not be? who knows— but i would like to know for fact- lol


745 posted on 07/26/2012 3:57:41 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: chicken head

A few less lol are recommended, use captial letters for names...and go for your life, if you find the Anna Toot who lived in Hawaii in that crucial period, who died in 1970, let us know.
But I think what Virginia Goeldner was told in 1982 when she and her husband visited the Dunhams about the boys mother dying in 1970, was Madelyn’s attempt to explain how it came about that they had BECOME HIS GUARDIANS at the time.

The Bank employees who spoke about Madelyn in recent years commented that they did not know she had a grandchild until he was attending school at Punahou.


746 posted on 07/26/2012 4:06:08 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT; hoosiermama; Fractal Trader
As I posted upthread, David's mom, Ruth, gave biographer Maraniss the following two birthdates for her sons by BHO Sr. in her only interview:

Mark: Nov. 28, 1965

David: Sep. 11, 1967

Funny how Malik didn't know David's b-day and placed it in 1968. According to Maraniss' interview with Ruth, Malik known as Bobby at the time, was living at the house with BHO Sr. and Ruth in 1967 (page 202).

747 posted on 07/26/2012 4:07:46 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: danamco
...Then again I was requesting how he was shipped to the U.S. from Indonesia???

Requesting? Now how about you see if you can find out, if you think it's important. I have no idea. I imagine he either came by air or by sea.

748 posted on 07/26/2012 4:10:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

You are a regular library of information. You ought to write your own biography of these people and make a few bucks! Great catch! One would think Malik would KNOW when little Davey was born and died, since Malik was claimed to be David’s mentor in the ways of being an African Muslim. 1968 to 1984. Maybe that’s where I remember that he was only 15/16 when he died. The new Maraniss book gives his date of birth as Sept. 11, 1967. Easy to remember. So even Malik didn’t know David’s birth date, who supposedly knew him and grew up with him. Malik loaned his motorbike to David that fateful day, or so the story goes. Wasn’t that the story? Malik was too drunk to drive and he wanted to stay wherever they were, so he gave David the keys and the rest is history.


749 posted on 07/26/2012 4:11:01 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Fred Nerks

You are a regular library of information. You ought to write your own biography of these people and make a few bucks! Great catch! One would think Malik would KNOW when little Davey was born and died, since Malik was claimed to be David’s mentor in the ways of being an African Muslim. 1968 to 1984. Maybe that’s where I remember that he was only 15/16 when he died. The new Maraniss book gives his date of birth as Sept. 11, 1967. Easy to remember. So even Malik didn’t know David’s birth date, who supposedly knew him and grew up with him. Malik loaned his motorbike to David that fateful day, or so the story goes. Wasn’t that the story? Malik was too drunk to drive and he wanted to stay wherever they were, so he gave David the keys and the rest is history.


750 posted on 07/26/2012 4:11:01 PM PDT by Greenperson
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