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Disarmed Citizens Became Helpless Victims in Colorado Shooting
The Red Side of Life Conservative Musings from New York ^ | 7/20/12 | RedInNewYork

Posted on 07/20/2012 2:08:36 PM PDT by jmstein7

The fatal shootings in Colorado today underscore the dangerous consequences of so-called "gun control." Had but one - ONE - citizen in the the theater been lawfully armed, this tragedy could have been avoided. Instead, as a result of gun control, and those who peddle this dangerous - and unconstitutional - policy, an entire theater full of disarmed citizens were left defenseless - victims. This is an outrage.

Take notice that these crimes do not happen in Right-to-Carry states, such as Texas... it simply does not happen. The point is well conceded - by real statistics - that Right-to-Carry states have significantly lower rates of total violent crime (by 26 percent),  murder (31 percent),  robbery (50 percent!), and aggravated assault (15 percent). Armed citizens are safe citizens. Armed families are safe families. The proof is in the numbers.

The upshot to today's shootings should be vocal demands that our Federal and State governments STOP disarming us and let us defend ourselves! It is our constitutional RIGHT.

Call your local and state officials and DEMAND that our right to self defense, the right to bear arms, be preserved so that such tragedies can be avoided.


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1 posted on 07/20/2012 2:08:40 PM PDT by jmstein7
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To: jmstein7

Colorado is a “right to carry” State.


2 posted on 07/20/2012 2:18:02 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Limited


3 posted on 07/20/2012 2:18:37 PM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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*** Had but one - ONE - citizen in the the theater been lawfully armed, this tragedy could have been avoided.***

I doubt that. He had on body armor head to toe. An armed citizen shooting back might have shook him up so he might have missed a few. Now, if the citizen had a .30 Tokarev or a FN 5.7 mm he might have gotten through some of the armor.


4 posted on 07/20/2012 2:18:50 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: jmstein7

Good article.

Cinemark needs to be sued into the ground. Only way they’re going to get the message about their act of reckless endangerment.


5 posted on 07/20/2012 2:19:14 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: jmstein7

It might have helped, but consider the guy had ballastic armor over most of his body. It would have required a face/head shot to take him down - very difficult for a hand gun in a dark/smokey theatre with chaos ensuing around you. Still, getting hit by return fire could have thrown the guy into a panic of his own and caused him to retreat earlier than he did.


6 posted on 07/20/2012 2:20:31 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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“Take notice that these crimes do not happen in Right-to-Carry states, such as Texas...”

Yes they do. A simple web search would tell you otherwise.

The proper point to make is that violent crime is indeed lower and there is a better chance that a gunman’s shooting spree will be cut short in a right to carry state, but saying they don’t happen is just plain wrong.

Except for that, nice rant.


7 posted on 07/20/2012 2:24:35 PM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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Limited?

Really?

Explain ... all information I find is "shall issue".

8 posted on 07/20/2012 2:26:34 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Godzilla
Everyone is brave in a one way shooting gallery. Once it goes Two Way, the dynamic changes. Even if you are armored.

If more folks had been carrying, this would have played out VERY differently. IF it was KNOWN that more folks carried in places like this, it might not have happened at all...

We can "might" and "maybe" this all day long. We KNOW that we cannot take our safety for granted. We KNOW we have the tools to help protect ourselves. We KNOW that factions in our government want us vulnerable and dependent on them.

Do not let them divide us. Do not give up your Rights. Demand that victim disarmament laws be stricken from the books. Do it now...

9 posted on 07/20/2012 2:28:18 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: agere_contra
Cinemark needs to be sued into the ground. Only way they’re going to get the message about their act of reckless endangerment.

I hope you are being sarcastic...if not, why does Cinemark have any blame here?? The blame needs to be placed 100% on the killer..no one else..

One reason why this country is so dang screwed up..lawyers and frivilous lawsuits.

10 posted on 07/20/2012 2:28:47 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I hear you, but body armor isn’t a personal defense shield: there are gaps and weak spots. This is why they don’t test it by standing in a hail of bullets.

Inside leg, armpit, eyes, inside hand, gun, waistband - just fire enough and you might get a lucky hit.

Plus he’s not a grizzly bear: impact from a few hits might have knocked him down or spun him round.


11 posted on 07/20/2012 2:29:02 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Dead Corpse

You get no arguement from me, and I think I echoed your points. Screw the gun grabbers on this one.


12 posted on 07/20/2012 2:35:22 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: trailhkr1
Are you serious?

Why did no-one in that cinema have a gun?

Fun fact which will be discovered at trial: it wasn't Jamie Holmes who prevented a huge crowd of Americans from being able to defend themselves. It was Cinemark.

We can discuss ballistic kevlar until we're blue in the face but the plain fact is that the shooter didn't need body armor. Cinemark disarmed his targets.

13 posted on 07/20/2012 2:37:05 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: jmstein7

Ironically, when unarmed citizens are rendered helpless because of restrictive gun laws as in the Aurora outrage, the gun control lobby seizes upon it as evidence that the citizenry needs even more restrictive gun laws. In the mean time, criminals, oblivious to gun laws, continue to arm themselves to prey upon defenseless victims.


14 posted on 07/20/2012 2:41:31 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: agere_contra

Yes, those ‘gun-free zones’ really stop these crazed shooters!


15 posted on 07/20/2012 2:45:50 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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AMEN.


16 posted on 07/20/2012 2:47:09 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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How did he get an AR in there?.....all that garb he had on? I think overal length has to be 26”.


17 posted on 07/20/2012 2:57:13 PM PDT by MachIV
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There are reports he propped open an exit door, ran to his car, got the munitions, and came back in that way.
I’ve been in some theaters where the exit leads outside, and doesn’t go through the lobby.


18 posted on 07/20/2012 3:01:21 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Someone having a gun isn't going to guarantee a better ending to something like this, but it does significantly improve the chances of it. You don't hear about these types of shooters having shootouts very often because they commit suicide or surrender as soon as they are met with force, or usually before they are met with force, but know it's close. I think this guys mind would have turned towards retreating and surrender as soon as someone shot at him. There are several other cases where evidence shows the shooters in those cases would have likely committed suicide as soon as confronted by an armed civilian the same as they did when confronted by law enforcement.
19 posted on 07/20/2012 3:02:43 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (The time for our second revolution has come. It's our Constitutional right to overthrow tyranny.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Shoot him in the head, neck, legs, crotch, arms, anywhere would have stopped him.


20 posted on 07/20/2012 3:04:32 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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