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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama said that public infrastructure - such as roads, schools, and fire departments - create a community that supports businesses


2 posted on 07/21/2012 12:26:35 AM PDT by raulgomez05
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“If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” Obama


4 posted on 07/21/2012 4:13:29 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: raulgomez05
Obama said that public infrastructure - such as roads, schools, and fire departments - create a community that supports businesses
No one doubts that infrastructure helps businessmen. It helps everybody. Society makes businesses possible. But the unspoken subtext of that is the planted axiom that “society” and “government” are one and the same thing. I had a social studies teacher in HS back in the Fifties who made that claim, and of course I as a teenager didn’t know how to respond even though I knew he was wrong. Recently someone pointed me to the perfect response:
SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness positively by uniting our affections, the latter negatively by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher.

Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil - Thomas Paine, Common Sense

George Washington didn’t write that himself, but he did put his imprimatur on it by ordering his officers to read it to his troops . . .
The other way of looking at it is that the difference between “society” and “government” is freedom. Allow the government to encompass society completely, and there must be perfect tyranny.
As to the issue of the ownership of a small business, entrepreneurs and business owners and churches and newspapers (which are explicitly businesses) constitute the leadership of society, not government. Journalists and preachers are competitors in that arena - and no pastor should be content with the niche to which journalists would consign pastors.


5 posted on 07/21/2012 8:13:17 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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