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Napolitano Says Texas Lying About Mohamed Elibiary: She's Offended by Gohmert's "Insinuations"
Maggie's Notebook ^ | 7-21-12 | Maggie@MaggiesNotebook

Posted on 07/22/2012 8:46:06 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook

Back in October 2011 Congressman Louis Gohmert (R-TX) questioned Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano about Mohamed Elibiary, a member of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) with a high level security clearance who allegedly accessed, illegally from his home computer, a Texas State and Local Intelligence Community database. Napolitano denied knowing anything about it, and told Gohmert she would personally do the investigation. See the video below.

Gohmert charged that Elibiary shopped information marked For Official Use Only, [classified] about Texas Governor Rick Perry and other Texas officials, to a left-leaning media outlet. See my original article from January 2012 for details.

Flash forward to this week, and Gohmert has Napolitano back before the House Judiciary Committee for questioning. He wanted to know what her personal investigation into the matter found. She found nothing.

Napolitano said the charges are "false," "misleading," and "objectionable." Gohmert said people in her Department are lying to her. The Texas Department of Public Safety said Elibiary DID ACCESS THE INFORMATION, with his own private computer. He DID download the documents. The only thing the Texas Department of Public Safety could not confirm was that the information was "shopped" to news outlets.

Here's a loose, partial transcript.

GOHMERT: Are you saying before this Congress right now, that as Secretary of Homeland Security, that it is a lie that Mohamed Elibiary downloaded material from a classified website using the secret security clearance you gave him? Are you saying that's a lie?

NAPOLITANO: I'm saying that is in accurate. That is correct.

GOHMERT: All right. What is inaccurate about it?

NAPOLITANO: A number of things. First of all, we have several people on the Homeland Security Advisory Committee that are Muslim [Moos-lum]. They've been helping Law Enforcement for a long time. Mr. Elibiary, himself, was recognized by the FBI...

GOHMERT: I didn't say anything about that so if you...could confine your answers to what I said and what you find misleading in it...

NAPOLITANO: One of the things I find misleading in it is that he somehow downloaded classified documents.

GOHMERT: So you're saying that the State and Local Intelligence of Community of Interest Database is not classified?

NAPOLITANO: I'm saying that he...as far as I know...he did not download classified documents.

GOHMERT: One of the games that gets played by some people who come up here and testify is that they have somebody not provide them with adequate information so that they can come in here and say "so far as I know," "not to my knowledge," that kind of thing, and they obscure the truth.

Has Elibiary's status on Homeland Security Advisory Council changed?

NAPOLITANO: No.

GOHMERT: It did not bother you that he did access information?

NAPOLITANO: Uh...he accessed some information. What bothers me, quite frankly, is the allegations made against anyone who happens to be Muslim.

GOHMERT: Well, the allegations are not because he is Muslim...[snip]...this administration seems to have a hard time recognizing members of terrorist groups who are allowed into the White House. You are aware of that happening, aren't you?

NAPOLITANO: Absolutely not.

GOHMERT: The evidence speaks for itself. Obviously you are kept in the dark on a lot of these things.

Are you aware of what the Freedom and Justice Party is in Egypt?

NAPOLITANO: Uh, Representative...

(someone cuts in and finally asks Napolitano to answer the question)

NAPOLITANO: Yes

GOHMERT: Are you aware that Mr. Elibiary's Foundation, which has now had their charter pulled because they failed to provide the information that the government requires to keep their 501(3)c status...are you aware you aware that that Foundation was called the Freedom and Justice Foundation?

NAPOLITANO: Representative, I'm not going to get into a debate about some of this...

GOHMERT: I'm asking you if you know simple facts...I don't want a debate. This is a question and answer. Are you aware of that being the name of Elibiary's Foundation that has now lost it's 501(3)c status pulled.

NAPOLITANO: The insinuation...

GOHMERT: Can you answer the question - there's no insinuation. Please answer just the question.

NAPOLITANO: Mr. Representative, with all respect, I believe you are insinuating that I and members of my staff...

GOHMERT: I'm not insinuating anything. I'm asking a direct question...The question is very simple. Are you aware of his Freedom and Justice Foundation?

(someone interrupts and says "let me say to the Gentlemen from Texas, I don't think he's going to get a different answer)

GOHMERT: Then I ask the assistance of the chairman to direct the witness to answer the question, as asked. It's very simple. It's yes or no.

(someone says "we'll give the witness the opportunity to give a final answer. Yes.)

NAPOLITANO: Mr. Chairman, I would just like to say for this Committee...

GOHMERT: That does not sound like a yes or no.

GOHMERT: The answer is non-responsive.

NAPOLITANO: Mr. Chairman, I didn't know this was a court with rules of evidence. I was hoping I could explain my answer.

GOHMERT: Mr. Chairman, my question was a yes or no question. Anything but a yes or no answer...and the reason there are rules of evidence so that witnesses don't just go off on a lark - avoiding the question.

(Gohmert's time expired.)

Napolitano speaks again and says "the insinuation that I and my staff would allow someone who is a terrorist to infiltrate..."

GOHMERT: I have not insinuated that Elibiary is a terrorist...he's a very nice gentleman. I've met him a couple of times...there's no such insinuation.

That the Secretary of Homeland Security would come in here and make such an allegation that ...

The committee adjourned amid the heated exchange.

Freedom and Justice is the party of the new leadership in Egypt, and the new President Mohammed Morsi. It is the Muslim Brotherhood. You can see from this exchange, with a Republican heading the committee, and a Republican asking the questions, that Democrats run circles around us. Gohmert tried. The chairman would not face the issue. The Judiciary Committee Chairman is Lamar Smith (R-TX). Whether it is his voice, or whether he is the person referred to as "Mr. Chairman," I don't know.

Mohamed Elibiary sits on the "Countering Violent Extremism (CVE) Working Group. Of the 26 members, he is the only one with a security clearance to access the state databases with sensitive information about residents.

Napolitano ignored the Texas investigation that concluded that he absolutely DID illegally access the Texas database. They know he shopped the information about Governor Rick Perry, but can't get anyone in the press to talk and prove it - but they do know he accessed confidential information.

Napolitano was allowed to refuse to address the facts or the questions. Pitiful. The Islamization of America continues and Congressman Michelle Bachmann is in the middle of it. She has taken a very courageous stance. Read it here, and be sure to click the link to her letter to Muslim Congressman Keith Ellison.  Please visit my blog to view the video


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: clearance; clearances; cve; database; dhs; egypt; elibiary; fjf; fjp; gohmert; janetnapolitano; louisgohmert; mb; mbro; mohamedelibiary; mohammedmorsi; mohammedmursi; morsi; mursi; muslimbrotherhood; napolitano; perry; rickperry

1 posted on 07/22/2012 8:46:19 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: maggiesnotebook
Ruh-roh! Somehow, when this Admin investigates itself, they NEVER seem to be able to find the wrongdoing/illegality in what has happened. I HOPE that when we take control of this Government, that EVERY MEMBER of EVERY DEPARTMENT is fully vetted as to their true allegiances!
2 posted on 07/22/2012 8:51:40 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: maggiesnotebook

FOUO (For Official Use Only) is, technically, not classified information, i.e. not Top Secret, Secret or Confidential. It must be safeguarded but it is not considered to be “damaging to national security” if it is released to unauthorized persons.


3 posted on 07/22/2012 8:51:56 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: maggiesnotebook

DHS could have saved themselves if they simply clipped Governor Perry’s press releases - it was more than clear that he had no problem palling around with some really shady people from the Religion of Peace.


4 posted on 07/22/2012 9:05:15 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Signalman

The same might be said about your tax returns or other government information about you .... “not considered to be “damaging to national security” if it is released to unauthorized persons.” That is not the point .... the information was released and not according to the correct protocol. Additionally, that was the one time they were caught ..... how many times were they not caught?


5 posted on 07/22/2012 9:05:27 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: maggiesnotebook
“Offended” is the stock reply to anyone trying to question or provide oversight on this administration's many ethical and legal transgressions.

One thing they don't do is deny the accusations. Guess they don't want to get caught lying and have to face the consequences

6 posted on 07/22/2012 9:05:36 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Signalman
FOUO (For Official Use Only) is, technically, not classified information, i.e. not Top Secret, Secret or Confidential. It must be safeguarded but it is not considered to be “damaging to national security” if it is released to unauthorized persons.

I think you are confusing the Federal Government
classifications and the State of Texas classifications.

OBTW the highest classification is NEED TO KNOW.

This has nothing to do with National Security,
It has everything to do with POLITICS


7 posted on 07/22/2012 9:06:08 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Signalman

Does the State of Texas maintain data classified “Top Secret” or “Secret”?

It may well be that in the US military it is how you stated, but I suspect that the State of Texas is not the same.


8 posted on 07/22/2012 9:07:17 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Signalman

UNCLASSIFIED/FOUO is primarily a Department of Defense phrase/acronym, used for documents or products which contain material which is exempt from release under the Freedom of Information Act. It is treated as confidential, which means it cannot be discarded in the open trash, made available to the general public, or posted on an uncontrolled website. It can, however, be shared with individuals with a need to know the content, while still under the control of the individual possessing the document or product.[1]


9 posted on 07/22/2012 9:07:48 PM PDT by oldernittany
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

You beat me.


10 posted on 07/22/2012 9:09:07 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: maggiesnotebook
These filth must be dragged from the offices they usurp, be stripped of the public trust which they shred, be prosecuted for the deceitful, criminal scum that they are, and then receive whatever is the just punishment for High Treason During Wartime.

There is nothing about them even remotely redeeming, not a single cell within these vile Rat bastards that is worth another cubic centimeter of wasted oxygen.

IMHO

;-\

11 posted on 07/22/2012 9:11:42 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Dedicated to the removal of the Islamic Regime in America")
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To: Texas Fossil
;-)

12 posted on 07/22/2012 9:13:11 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: originalbuckeye
I HOPE that when we take control of this Government, that EVERY MEMBER of EVERY DEPARTMENT is fully vetted as to their true allegiances!

Ditto to what you said. It's time to get America's enemies out of our government.

13 posted on 07/22/2012 9:17:13 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Without the Second Amendment, the other twenty-six will cease to exist.)
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To: maggiesnotebook
>"One of the games that gets played by some people who come up here and testify is that they have somebody not provide them with adequate information so that they can come in here and say "so far as I know," "not to my knowledge," that kind of thing, and they obscure the truth.

Ricky, Racky, and the whole rat crew need to be incarcerated for gross malfeasance of office due to incompetence.

None of them know anything at any time. Either they accept responsibility for their office or they accept responsibility for damages caused by incompetence.

14 posted on 07/22/2012 9:17:37 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: maggiesnotebook

Like everyone else in the Obama regime, Butch is in over her head. “Compelling life story” or not, she has no business being in the federal government.


15 posted on 07/22/2012 9:23:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Without the Second Amendment, the other twenty-six will cease to exist.)
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To: originalbuckeye
>" I HOPE that when we take control of this Government, that EVERY MEMBER of EVERY DEPARTMENT is fully vetted as to their true allegiances! "

I "HOPE" you remember Sandy Burglar.

GW had 6 years to fix that.

We currently have the same crew that mass murdered American citizens in Waco "running" the show again.


I'm sure Myth and the boyz will be right on it. /s

16 posted on 07/22/2012 9:25:18 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: maggiesnotebook
When Mohamed Elibiary accessed the Texas State and Local Intelligence Community database It recorded most, if not all of the following info... username + password for the database access, his connection Host Name, Primary DNS Suffix, Physical/MAC Address, IP Address, etc.

No sale Janet, I.T. knowith all things.

Including EXACTLY who and what accesses their classified databases.

One thing it does not record is "someone happens to be Muslim."

The voodoo of playing the "Muslim card" does not work here.

.

17 posted on 07/22/2012 9:25:33 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: maggiesnotebook; thouworm; MestaMachine; Nachum; STARWISE; seekthetruth; seize the day

Must read. Which cabinet door do we open next?


18 posted on 07/22/2012 9:31:11 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: maggiesnotebook

bfl


19 posted on 07/22/2012 9:37:37 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: maggiesnotebook

Napolitano is a big, fat idiot—our former governor.


20 posted on 07/22/2012 9:53:43 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: maggiesnotebook

I doubt seriously he is.


21 posted on 07/22/2012 10:05:58 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: maggiesnotebook

Its too bad Gohmert was stonewalled. He was going places all he needed was answers and TIME. Two factors.

This is all grossly underrated.


22 posted on 07/22/2012 10:11:52 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: basil

ping for later.


23 posted on 07/22/2012 10:13:25 PM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: rawcatslyentist

... crew that mass murdered American citizens in Waco “running” the show again.
***************************************
I guess the facts that Koresh’s sheeple had numerous firearms they were using and had gasoline stationed thoughout the house had no bearing on the outcome, when he ordered his followers to soak the place with gas and set it afire... ....Sorta like Jim Jones telling his folks to drink the poisoned Kool Ade.

Doesn’t seem like any government mass murdering in either case.


24 posted on 07/23/2012 12:50:17 AM PDT by octex
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To: moder_ator; Texas Fossil; UriĀ’el-2012
I type "....Moderator...." and it gets displayed as "....Mod_erator.

Texas Fossil types Uri’el-2012, and it gets displayed as UriÂ’el-2012'.

I type "....Texas Fossil...." and it gets displayed as "....Texas F0ssil...."

Why?

25 posted on 07/23/2012 3:37:45 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Quaeras de dubiis, legem bene discere si vis)
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To: octex
and had gasoline stationed thoughout the house

Source? What about the tear gas? I am not buying the gas thing.

26 posted on 07/23/2012 6:53:46 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: octex; rawcatslyentist
You present yourself as having a source for what took place inside the Waco compound before the children were burned to death.

Who, on the inside walls of Waco building, provided you with this seemingly first hand account?

27 posted on 07/23/2012 8:05:43 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Quaeras de dubiis, legem bene discere si vis)
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To: righttackle44

Opps; you left out ‘dike’ b**ch.


28 posted on 07/23/2012 8:11:07 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Quaeras de dubiis, legem bene discere si vis)
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To: Robert Drobot
>"Who, on the inside walls of Waco building, provided you with this seemingly first hand account?"

Back at ya.

I actually like W. Please be honest and look at what he did, and didn't do. Don't let anger blind you to the truth.

The R vs D puppet show is coming to a close soon. The puppet master is pleased when you take a side of one of the characters in the show. It means another encore performance.

29 posted on 07/23/2012 8:55:10 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Robert Drobot; Texas Fossil

Your #26 and #27
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Best as I remember, the arson investigators who checked out the source of the fire determined that an accelerant (gasoline) had been splashed all around the interior of the farmhouse. That was the explanation given for why the fires began everywhere in the house at about the same time.


30 posted on 07/23/2012 2:29:10 PM PDT by octex
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To: octex

Was wondering why your heroes didn’t pick up Koresh when he was in town? More fun to have the Bar-B-Q I guess.


31 posted on 07/23/2012 2:35:37 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: octex
As I remember Congressional testimony, “spreading gasoline” was “suggested” by FBI investigators as a “possibility”. What came to light was Janet Reno signed off on replacing the compressed air propellant they used to gas the place with propane. When the flash bangs went in, the place went up.

IIRC, also, when flash bangs are going in, it is normal to move LEO’s forward to quick entry position. The FBI pulled back.

32 posted on 07/23/2012 4:37:41 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: octex

I watched the video of the fires many times. It is clear that it was not gasoline but a volatile vapour that had already filled the building. In my opinion, pyrotechnic tear gas caused the rapid expansion of the fire whatever the source of the ignition.

I simply do not believe the “explanations” the Feds gave. They were in CYA mode, as they often are when they make a big goof.

They lied about what type of tear gas was used.

The whole episode was totally unnecessary. When they decided to try and play commando it sealed the deal. They were not about to let some stupid Christians (whatever their quirks) go unpunished.


33 posted on 07/23/2012 4:38:07 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: El Laton Caliente

Bump!


34 posted on 07/23/2012 4:39:47 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: llandres

What does bfl mean?


35 posted on 07/23/2012 10:44:58 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: maggiesnotebook

It means bookmark for later. I always hope someone unfamiliar with the abbreviation won’t take offense - I’m just too lazy to type out the whole thing and often have to go through headlines rather quickly :-)))


36 posted on 07/24/2012 7:00:33 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: llandres

Oh thanks for telling me! I was hoping it didn’t mean big fat liar:-)


37 posted on 07/24/2012 8:16:39 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: maggiesnotebook

“Oh thanks for telling me! I was hoping it didn’t mean big fat liar:-)”

LOL - I know, and that’s one of the milder things a person or two have thought in the past! I know you don’t know me, but I’m too nice to call anyone on here names (although I can be outspoken on some subjects :-)))

I have seen others use that abbreviation in the past, and it’s probably where I first got the idea!


38 posted on 07/25/2012 9:17:09 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: Cindy; Tailgunner Joe
Morsi / Muslim Brotherhood bump

GOHMERT: The evidence speaks for itself. Obviously you are kept in the dark on a lot of these things. Are you aware of what the Freedom and Justice Party is in Egypt?

NAPOLITANO: Uh, Representative...
(someone cuts in and finally asks Napolitano to answer the question)

NAPOLITANO: Yes

GOHMERT: Are you aware that Mr. Elibiary's Foundation, which has now had their charter pulled because they failed to provide the information that the government requires to keep their 501(3)c status...are you aware you aware that that Foundation was called the Freedom and Justice Foundation?

39 posted on 11/22/2012 7:45:50 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

BUMP and thank you for the ping Piasa.


40 posted on 11/23/2012 5:33:08 PM PST by Cindy
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