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Judge orders Fire Department to hire black and Hispanic applicants who failed “racist” written test
danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com ^ | July 28, 2012 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 07/28/2012 1:04:35 AM PDT by grundle

Think of the kind of precedent this ruling could set. Instead of hiring heart surgeons, bridge engineers, and bus drivers based on who passed the test, we could end up hiring based on who failed the test. Can you imagine the kind of world this would create?

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1 posted on 07/28/2012 1:04:50 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Now we are going into: “Judicial Terorism?”

A government by the Judges [for the judges]and [of the judges]


2 posted on 07/28/2012 1:19:39 AM PDT by Letmarch75
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To: grundle

I went to the source and read the contents of the “racist” test. Bogus, just completely bogus. The ‘judge’ was rooting for one side to win and he made it happen. What a guy.


3 posted on 07/28/2012 1:20:10 AM PDT by Wingy (Don't blame me. I voted for the chick. I hope to do so again.)
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To: Letmarch75

Yes; we’ve been the victim of judicial activism (kritarchy) since the 60s for the most part.


4 posted on 07/28/2012 1:34:37 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: grundle

Horribile dictu, this has been the situation since the nineties.


5 posted on 07/28/2012 1:44:02 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: grundle

Get rid of the testing for selection given it is not worth a damn anymore. =.=


6 posted on 07/28/2012 1:56:09 AM PDT by cranked
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To: grundle
Can you imagine the kind of world this would create?

I don't have to "imagine;" I've seen the film "Idiocracy."

Regards,

7 posted on 07/28/2012 2:20:58 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: cranked; grundle
This judge is doing these individuals no favors by helping them get jobs as fire fighters.

He is putting their lives at risk and the putting at risk those fire fighters that will go in to burning buildings with them.

Fire fighters depend on each other to survive. A fire fighter never goes in to a fire alone; he always goes in with a partner. These men depend on each other for their lives.

If these men are not up to the task of being fire fighter mentally or physically they put every fire fighter they work with in danger.

Political correctness has no place in the selection of fire fighters. Forcing fire departments to lower their standards so that they can take women and minorities that can’t pass the test is putting lives in danger and is unacceptable.

8 posted on 07/28/2012 2:30:58 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: grundle

Every single objective test of human ability and human character is racist. Every written test is racist. Every test of knowledge or ability is racist. Every test of willingness to follow the law and respect the rights of others is racist. Every test of the willingness to support your own children is racist. Every test of honesty and integrity is racist.

Why? It is simply because the criteria to determine whether a test is racist has nothing to do with the test itself. What determines whether a test is racist is the results. It is that simple. If blacks do worse on the test then by definition the test must be racist. Therefore, all tests are racist.


9 posted on 07/28/2012 3:00:31 AM PDT by detective
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To: y'all

The test can be read here...

http://documents.nytimes.com/new-york-city-firefighter-examinations


10 posted on 07/28/2012 3:08:10 AM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: grundle

Back when Rush had his television show he had a video montage of several women firefighters going through the paces. Some of them more than met the minimum qualifications. Others could not lift the ladder or control the hoses. I am sorry but these are not the people I want trying to save my life or that of my family.


11 posted on 07/28/2012 3:12:42 AM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: grundle

Forced outcome-based equality.

Yet another rung down the ladder...


12 posted on 07/28/2012 3:36:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: grundle

Happens in police work too. Affirmative action hires hurt the profession terribly.


13 posted on 07/28/2012 4:10:21 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: grundle

“She can’t lift that ladder to put it up to your window and save your life, but as you burn to death, I hope you find comfort in knowing that at least she’s black!”


14 posted on 07/28/2012 4:14:26 AM PDT by airborne (My heroes don't wear capes. My heroes wear dog tags!!!)
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To: detective
That is so true! I am beginning to be afraid that this problem is never going to be solved, especially now that four years of Obama have further damaged race relations. I was talking to a friend of mine who is a nurse practitioner and whose husband is a doctor. She looked exhausted and I asked her what was wrong. She said that she can't sleep because her neighbors leave their dog outside and he barks all night long. She has talked to them, complained to the home owner's association, and has even called the police to no avail. The neighbors are both dentists so they are obviously well educated. They have turned the whole thing into a race issue because they are both black and have responded by leaving the dog outside even more often than before - despite the fact that the heat index the past few days has been well over 100 degrees!
15 posted on 07/28/2012 4:25:40 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: grundle

Hmmm, didn’t any other minorities besides blacks and Hispanics take the test ? Why were they left out of the ruling and not force the city to hire them? Is it because they didn’t flunk the test ? If that is so, then how can the test be racist?


16 posted on 07/28/2012 4:54:55 AM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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To: srmorton

“Judge orders New York City Fire Department to hire black and Hispanic applicants who failed “racist” written test”......

Why the hell do we have judges like this? Time to remove all the requirements of becomming a “judge” and appoint some street people to be the ones to decide.
This country is so screwed up. Where and how do we start over?


17 posted on 07/28/2012 4:55:29 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Progov

Just one more step downward, my FRiend. And each step downward is coming faster than the one preceeding it.


18 posted on 07/28/2012 5:01:26 AM PDT by sport
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To: deks

Looking through the test, it mainly measures ability to read and understand directions, common sense, and the ability to remember instructions you were just given. Anybody who cannot pass this test does not have a double-digit IQ. Which is likely the problem causing it to be labeled racist.


19 posted on 07/28/2012 5:08:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: grundle

Maybe one day this @$$hol# judge will need the services of NYFD and one of these unqualified candidates will come to attempt to aid him. That would be poetic justice.


20 posted on 07/28/2012 5:23:59 AM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: grundle

This has been going on for 60 years.


21 posted on 07/28/2012 5:27:18 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: grundle

Can the judge be sued and held liable if something bad happens?


22 posted on 07/28/2012 6:45:46 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: grundle

But...but....but.....they only want “equal” rights....don’t they? ( Sarc to the extreme)


23 posted on 07/28/2012 2:48:49 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: alexander_busek

Agreed, that movie was sadly prophetic...


24 posted on 08/16/2012 4:25:21 PM PDT by weeweed (Proud Costco University graduate)
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