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Gabby's Gold Ceremony Question? vanity
Aug 2, 2012 | jd

Posted on 08/03/2012 1:09:35 AM PDT by jdirt

Is it just me? I was watching the Olympics tonight in a restaurant. There was no sound. Gabby Douglas was receiving the Gold medal for her all-around performance in gymnastics. She did wonderful from what I saw.

BUT when she received the Gold, she did not put her hand over her heart when they played the National Anthem.

She was holding flowers in the middle of her body with her right hand and had her left hand behind her back.. I blew it off, kinda. But hubby saw it too and we both went into shock. I have never seen an Olympian not do this and I don't think I have ever seen someone not put their hand over their heart during the National Anthem.

Is it just me? Did anyone else see this and wonder the same thing? Has anybody mentioned it on the news? Should I give her a pass because of her age, nerves and the excitement of it all?


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: 2012olympics; american; anthem; black; ceremony; christian; gabby; gabbydouglas; grousing; gymnastics; londonolympics; national
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To: outinyellowdogcountry
...Russian women were poor losers. Both nights they cried like a baby when they didn’t get the first place.

Hey, when losing = Siberia, I'd cry too! < /sarc >

51 posted on 08/03/2012 7:36:51 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: jdirt
"I have never seen an Olympian not do this and I don't think I have ever seen someone not put their hand over their heart during the National Anthem."

Though I believe Gabby was holding the flowers over her heart (which is acceptable like when you hold your hat over your heart.) There has been a prior incident where American Olympians didn't do such:

I think the young lady is awesome and was in no way trying to be controversial. I applaud her commitment and her achievement!

Well done Gabby! Well done!

52 posted on 08/03/2012 7:40:06 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: wtc911
Really? Then how about you show us any post you or the poster you are defending ever put up here that, in a story that is not about race, you described a White American as just that, White.

Uh. Well, if I have a reason to point out that a white person is white, I'll let you know about it.

Hey, I found a great example: Christophe Lemaitre. He's a Frenchman, and the first white man to run 100 meters in under than 10 seconds.
53 posted on 08/03/2012 7:47:34 AM PDT by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: wtc911

I defined her as a Black American with the drive to succeed through individual effort. And.....she could be, just as easily any American woman. My point is there are many Black Americans the believe in the American dream.

The problem is, So many Blacks have been led to believe and lead their lives existing on “Obama” stashes & handouts. Sad commentary on millions of Black people who are wasting their lives shooting drugs, having unwanted babies, living with poor education, and their own inner racism. fostered upon them, not by the average American, but by Obama and Black leaders like him.

Yep, keep ‘em down on the plantation, in forever economic dependence and slavery. That is no way to go through a productive, fulfilling life. This talented young lady has overcome the odds that most of her brothers and sisters have chosen to live in!!! Again, sad commentary on Blacks, more important, on Black leadership from Obama on down!!!


54 posted on 08/03/2012 7:56:55 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

It’s only over the past 10-15 years that putting your hand over your heart during the anthem has become “proper.” Like others have mentioned, growing up we were taught hand over heart for the Pledge, but to stand respectfully at attention for the anthem.


55 posted on 08/03/2012 8:05:19 AM PDT by spotter
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
This talented young lady has overcome the odds that most of her brothers and sisters have chosen to live in!!! Again, sad commentary on Blacks, more important, on Black leadership from Obama on down!!!

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See that is exactly my point....

To you her "brothers and sisters" are Black Americans rather than just all Americans.

Why, in your mind, does she have to represent "Blacks"? Does the Dark Knight shooter represent Whites? Does HRC represent Whites?

She's just a kid who has accomplished more by sixteen that most of us will by sixty. What gives you the right to put the burden of Black America on her shoulders?

56 posted on 08/03/2012 8:10:49 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

Get real. You know damn well that you never felt the need to identify any White individual as White before - you reserve that for Black. Digging around to post something now just makes you look silly.


57 posted on 08/03/2012 8:15:02 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: TigerClaws
The Russian did better on the floor program.

It looked to me like Douglas stepped out of bounds (is that the correct term?). I saw it live and one replay and it looked pretty clear to me.

58 posted on 08/03/2012 8:16:26 AM PDT by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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To: wtc911
You know damn well that you never felt the need to identify any White individual as White before

That's actually kind of the point. White people are sort of presumed to be the 'default,' so to speak. It's was actually really hard to find that example, Google "first white person to" and the auto-complete fills it out with "perform on Soul Train."
59 posted on 08/03/2012 8:20:19 AM PDT by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: TigerClaws

And Gabby did better in the All Around. The only gift score I saw was Komova’s vault score.


60 posted on 08/03/2012 8:35:20 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: RightFighter

I hadn’t thought much about it, but you’re right. As long as a person is facing the flag, and not holding up a “black power” fist, they’re probably doin the right thing. :)


61 posted on 08/03/2012 9:05:08 AM PDT by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

No the point is that Gabby’s remarkable effort, dedication and success have nothing to do with her color -— except to the liberal media and others of like mind.


62 posted on 08/03/2012 9:07:06 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: dupree

A couple of years ago I saw a women’s basketball team receive gold medals (not olympic) and only ONE held their hand over their heart during the playing of the Anthem.

I told one of the staff about the protocols. But, basketball is rich with Obama fans; one even has an Obama doll on her desk. I don’t expect much in this matter.


63 posted on 08/03/2012 9:13:11 AM PDT by gortklattu (God knows who is best, everybody else is making guesses - Tony Snow)
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To: All

Sometimes I put my hand over my heart, sometimes I stand with my hands behind my back, sometimes I get caught up gazing at the flag, remembering the sacrifices that were given for the flag while my hands just hang naturally.

Who cares? As long as people are respectful and not giving some political expression like the 68 morons or turning their back to the flag...it’s a non-issue.

This girl is 16 and is honoring her country with her athletic skill....Quit looking for the boogeyman where it doesn’t exist.

“The glory goes up to Him, and the blessings fall down on me” – Gabby Douglas


64 posted on 08/03/2012 9:14:48 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings; JLAGRAYFOX
When Gabby was told that she was the first Black person to win the gold her reply was..."Oh yeah, I forgot about that."

It's a good thing that there are folks around like you to make sure that she never again forgets for a minute that she's not just Gabby Douglas, gold medalist, daughter, sister, person --- she's first and foremost Black.

65 posted on 08/03/2012 9:15:02 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911
No the point is that Gabby’s remarkable effort, dedication and success have nothing to do with her color -— except to the liberal media and others of like mind.

Nobody said her effort or dedication or success were connected to her color. When people say, "She's the first black American woman to win gold," they're pointing out that something new has happened. People like pioneers.
66 posted on 08/03/2012 9:24:23 AM PDT by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: wtc911

I’m not putting the burden of Black America on this girl’s shoulders. She has used her individual drive and determination to become an American Champion. period!!! More power to her!!!

American Blacks have placed the burden of their day to day existance on their own shoulders, period!!! Tunnel vision and Black racism is a horrible way to go throught life with a self-inflicted mantra, administered by their own Black leaders, period. End of dialogue!!!


67 posted on 08/03/2012 9:28:12 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: wtc911

In the gym, there is no color. It is all about talent and work ethic. Gabby has both. And she has great faith instilled in her by her parents.

I notice the media is not asking her about her Christian faith. Just her dark skin.


68 posted on 08/03/2012 9:33:10 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: jdirt

I watched..thought she did..and she also spoke about the honor of representing our country..Can’t recall exact words..

I thought she was the best in all round...I loved all of the fab5.


69 posted on 08/03/2012 9:40:59 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: petitfour
In the gym, there is no color. It is all about talent and work ethic. Gabby has both. And she has great faith instilled in her by her parents.

I notice the media is not asking her about her Christian faith. Just her dark skin.

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Te media and a few freepers.

You are right about effort, talent and hard work as defining characteristics. That's the way it should be.

70 posted on 08/03/2012 9:45:37 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Gabby is so talented and adorable, too.


71 posted on 08/03/2012 9:46:24 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
She has used her individual drive and determination to become an American Champion. period!!! More power to her!!!

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Oh, now she's just "American" not "Black" first --- good for you.

Of course you ruined it with your follow-on rant about the troubles of Black America as if that has anything to do with her. It doesn't, except to certain types of people.

72 posted on 08/03/2012 9:48:33 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: rbmillerjr

“The glory goes up to Him, and the blessings fall down on me” – Gabby Douglas

Indeed she did say this..She makes a great champion.
Way to go Gabby!!!


73 posted on 08/03/2012 9:50:55 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: spotter

It’s only over the past 10-15 years that putting your hand over your heart during the anthem has become “proper.”

I’m wondering if Ronald Reagan got that started? Or maybe I’m thinking of him saluting the military?


74 posted on 08/03/2012 9:55:13 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: 21twelve
It’s only over the past 10-15 years that putting your hand over your heart during the anthem has become “proper.”

I'm calling BS on that comment.

75 posted on 08/03/2012 10:01:45 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: bruoz

That’s what we were taught as kids, as well.


76 posted on 08/03/2012 10:03:14 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (FRiends of our FoundeRs the time is now; resist, recruit, defend our ground)
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

I’ve learned not to be so judgemental with the Soviet and Chinese gymnasts, etc. Who really knows what the differences in medals means when they go back home? I think a lot of their parents’ and their futures ride on the success that these girls have at the Olympics.


77 posted on 08/03/2012 10:13:28 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Resist * Recruit * Defend)
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To: bruoz
I was taught to stand at attention for the anthem. The only time the hand goes over the heart is when you are holding your hat in it.

...and she is the child of a military person. She may have learned differently. Geez, some people get sticks up their butts over the slightest thing. She won the gold, be happy for her.

78 posted on 08/03/2012 7:17:15 PM PDT by madison10
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To: jdirt

Yeah, it’s just you. The girl is just 16 and can barely focus her attention on the gymnastics because she’s so easily distracted. She’s on top of the world. Let her enjoy herself. BTW, her dad is in the Air Force and has only seen her perform at the trials. Her mom is divorcing him.


79 posted on 08/03/2012 7:26:00 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: jdirt
Gabby gives God all the glory I hope this puts your mind at ease.
80 posted on 08/03/2012 7:29:09 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

You are correct. I didn’t consider the broader consequences. My apology.


81 posted on 08/04/2012 2:53:11 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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