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Join the Romney Rally Saturday in Norfolk
The Virginian | 8/9/2012 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 08/09/2012 4:08:24 AM PDT by moneyrunner

This Saturday morning there will be a Romney rally in Norfolk, Virginia at Nauticus. Any Freepers in Tidewater Virginia are especially welcome.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: norfolk; rally; romney; va2012

1 posted on 08/09/2012 4:08:32 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner

yeah, right - after his comments on gay Boy Scouts the only reason I would go to a Romney rally would be to find directions to the Virgil Goode rally.


2 posted on 08/09/2012 4:15:16 AM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12-XXX= Now what? Cain?XX Guess not. ABO & MR)
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To: moneyrunner

Romney must have been thrilled when Obama won. “Finally, someone far worse than me! I’ll have a chance in 2012.”


3 posted on 08/09/2012 4:25:24 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: moneyrunner

romney who?


4 posted on 08/09/2012 5:36:09 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: biggredd1

I plan to vote for him but wouldn’t cross the street to see him.


5 posted on 08/09/2012 5:46:16 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: moneyrunner

You forgot the barf alert.


6 posted on 08/09/2012 9:09:11 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: conservaterian
yeah, right - after his comments on gay Boy Scouts the only reason I would go to a Romney rally would be to find directions to the Virgil Goode rally

I didn't realize that Virgil Goode had a chance to beat Obama this fall.

7 posted on 08/09/2012 5:56:59 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: Pollster1
Romney must have been thrilled when Obama won. “Finally, someone far worse than me! I’ll have a chance in 2012.”

When Obama beat McCain in 2008, I’m not sure what was going through Romney’s mind, but I’m fairly confident that one lesson he took away from it was that the next Republican facing Obama should not be the racial coward that McCain was. McCain was the media candidate and he may have been stupid enough to be shocked when they turned against him after he was nominated. If I had the power I would anoint Sarah Palin as President, but since she is not running I would vote for a syphilitic camel over Obama. If you are not a fan of Romney, that’s OK with me. But if you won’t support him during this election you and a bag of rocks have a common intellect.

8 posted on 08/09/2012 6:07:07 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: tirednvirginia
I plan to vote for him but wouldn’t cross the street to see him.

Thanks for your vote. It indicates that you recognize that Obama can’t be allowed to have a second term. If that’s the case, it would help not only to vote but to encourage others to vote for Romney also. That’s the reason I’m going to the rally. I have always stayed away from events like this because they bore me and I have better things to do. But the election this year is crucial. Obama must go and if that means voting and rallying for the “Not Obama” I’m your man.

9 posted on 08/09/2012 6:13:53 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner
I didn't realize that Virgil Goode had a chance to beat Obama this fall.
Oh, so I suppose everyone should have only voted for Mittens during the primaries since the GOPe told us he was the only one that had a chance at the nomination. I wil NOT vote for him for any reason. How many more elections do you want to lose while voting for the RINO? If we don't send a message to the the GOP they will continue to throw us RINOs and people like you will continue to vote for them.
10 posted on 08/09/2012 6:24:02 PM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12-XXX= Now what? Cain?XX Guess not. ABO & MR)
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To: Windflier
You forgot the barf alert.

I’m really rather surprised by the responses so far. I realize that Romney is not the candidate of choice for the Right, but the reaction makes me wonder about the kind of people here. I have already experienced a few mean-spirited attacks by people who don’t want bloggers on this site. I’m beginning to think that most of you are not serious.

I thought that it would be self-evident that anyone who loves his country would be preferable to Obama – who does not. Forced to choose between Obama and Carter, I would choose Carter (who until Obama held the title as the worst president in the last 100 years). Between Obama and Clinton I would choose Clinton, for the same reason although Clinton was a lying whoremonger. Forced to choose between Obama, Carter, Clinton and Romney it’s Romney by a mile. He may not have the ideological purity and common touch of Sarah Palin but he’s a proven turn-around artist and the good Lord knows we need to turn this country around. That’s why I’m going to a rally for a man I didn’t support in the primaries. This is a choice between good and evil and I’m choosing sides.

11 posted on 08/09/2012 6:27:54 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: conservaterian

I voted for Ron Paul in the primary but you Goode cultists are beyond sick in the head.


12 posted on 08/09/2012 6:28:12 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

A Paulista? No wonder you are supporting Romney.


13 posted on 08/09/2012 6:33:15 PM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12-XXX= Now what? Cain?XX Guess not. ABO & MR)
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To: conservaterian
Oh, so I suppose everyone should have only voted for Mittens during the primaries since the GOPe told us he was the only one that had a chance at the nomination. I wil NOT vote for him for any reason. How many more elections do you want to lose while voting for the RINO? If we don't send a message to the the GOP they will continue to throw us RINOs and people like you will continue to vote for them.

I didn’t vote for Romney during the primary and I thought that there were other candidates who I would have preferred. My own preference is Sarah Palin, but she chose not to run. I liked Herman Cain’s passion and good humor, I liked Newt Gingrich’s intellect and willingness to attack the media, Rick Perry showed he could govern a great state; Rick Santorum was steadfast in his faith. All of the primary candidates had excellent features. They all eventually lost and not because of any RINO conspiracy, but because they failed to convince enough people that they could rescue the country from Obama. Each of his opponents took the lead for a while but like in a horse race they faded at the finish. Romney has a good shot at taking Obama out of the oval office. Once we stop digging the hole where’re in, once the country turns back to sanity we Tea Partiers can create the basis for a rejuvenated Republican party. But we can only do it with people who recognize that elections are about setting up the potential for change. Romney may not be Ronald Reagan resurrected, but he is a move back from a bad trip.

14 posted on 08/09/2012 6:50:47 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
I voted for Ron Paul in the primary but you Goode cultists are beyond sick in the head.

I have to apologize. I just Googled Goode and found out that he is an honest-to-God candidate for President. I didn’t know this and I’m a Virginia resident. With his skill and organization he must have Obama quaking in his boots. I understand the he’s already measuring the drapes in the Oval Office.

15 posted on 08/09/2012 6:57:34 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: conservaterian

I would vote for Joran Vandersloot if that is what it took to get gaybama from office.


16 posted on 08/09/2012 7:25:51 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: moneyrunner
Mitt Romney’s Dismal Record

"As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.

* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.

* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace.

* While 8 million Americans over age 16 found work between 2002 and 2006, the number of employed Massachusetts residents actually declined by 8,500 during those years.

"Massachusetts was the only state to have failed to post any gain in its pool of employed residents," professors Sum and McLaughlin concluded.

In an April 2003 meeting with the Massachusetts congressional delegation in Washington, Romney failed to endorse President Bush's $726 billion tax-cut proposal."

[Cato Institute annual Fiscal Policy Report Card - America's Governors, 2004.]


Romney's "accomplishments".

1. Implemented/created Gay Marriage in MA

2. Supported and forced Gay Adoption in MA

3. Supported Abortion wholeheartedly

4. Raised taxes/fees over 300% while being Governor of MA

5. Implemented a state-level Cap and Trade system.

6. Supported Man-Made Global Warming

7. Supported the Brady Bill

8. Implemented a state level “Assault” Weapons Ban after the Federal AWB was allowed to expire.

9. Supported TARP

10. Supported Amnesty for Illegal Aliens (Citizenship for those already here)

11. Supported McCain-Kennedy (Amnesty)

12. Implemented a socialized medicine in MA called RomneyCare complete with an Individual Mandate and $50 abortions.

13. Nominated 27 Democrats (out of 36 nominations) for judgeships in MA, many of them extreme left-wingers.

17 posted on 08/09/2012 9:57:00 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
People reading your “facts” should read the book about lying by statistics. For example, if I ran a state where every person had a job when I entered office and every person still had a job when I left I could be accused by a statistical liar of having failed to reduce the unemployment rate … and they would be right! It is a fact that when Romney left office the unemployment rate in Massachusetts was 4.7%. I would say that’s a pretty good number, but perhaps you would disagree.

Before I leave your list of grievances against Romney, let me say first that Romney is not my first choice for President, but at this point, he’s my ONLY choice. Obama must be defeated. Anyone on the Right who refuses to vote for Romney out of pique, out of the belief that we can have perfection as an alternative to Obama, is delusional. Second, your willingness to use Democrat talking points without taking the time or effort to find out why and how they are fooling you is a disservice to this country and, I should add, a disservice to the principles that Jim Robinson and the people around him espouse.

Regards.

18 posted on 08/10/2012 7:07:46 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner; Jim Robinson
...your willingness to use Democrat talking points without taking the time or effort to find out why and how they are fooling you is a disservice to this country and, I should add, a disservice to the principles that Jim Robinson and the people around him espouse.

"Democrat talking points"?

Are you seriously trying to suggest that Romney bears no responsibility for his liberal track record, and that any mention of it is an underhanded attack against him?

You're as bad as the Democrats who scream 'foul!' whenever we quote Obama's own words to them.

You've also got a lot of nerve trying to ally Jim Robinson to those timid and dishonored people who have shut their eyes to Romney's many transgressions against conservative traditions and principles. He may be allowing you Romneybots to post here, but make no mistake; he supports Romney about as much as he supports Obama, and has said so countless times.

By the way, if you're going to invoke someone's name in conversation, you should ping them to that post.

I also notice that you didn't refute a single one of those bullet points from Romney's record. It's no wonder that you didn't. His record is completely indefensible from a conservative point of view. His performance in office was indistinguishable from any liberal Democrat, and he's done nothing in his private life to support the contention that he bears any allegiance to the right.

Who cares what his official party affiliation is? If it walks like a Democrat and talks like a Democrat, it's a Democrat.

19 posted on 08/10/2012 8:15:14 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; Jim Robinson

I get the fact that you don’t like Mitt Romney. I get the fact that Romney has taken positions that neither you nor I agree with. But at this point we have a choice: Romney or Obama for the next four years. If you believe that Obama would be the better choice, then you can reel off a list of Romney’s sins. If you believe that it doesn’t matter who wins, you can reel off Romney’s sins and Obama’s sins and convince people that neither one deserves the job, but you didn’t. But if you believe as I do that it makes a big difference and that our number one, two and three objective is the defeat of Obama, it makes no sense to try to convince people that Romney should not be elected. I’ll let Jim Robinson tell you himself which way he’ll vote this November. But I would be shocked to learn that, given Jim’s antipathy toward socialism, and given a choice between Obama and Romney, he would vote to give the Big O another 4 years. (Of course in California Jim’s vote may not sway the state.)


20 posted on 08/10/2012 12:10:40 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner
If you believe that it doesn’t matter who wins, you can reel off Romney’s sins and Obama’s sins and convince people that neither one deserves the job, but you didn’t.

Yeah, I guess I didn't. At least not while talking to you. Doesn't mean that I haven't posted comparisons between Obama and Romney many times. I have.

Bottom line...the differences between Obama and Romney are only in degree - not in kind. They're in foursquare agreement on the major planks of their respective agendas. That's a fact which is proven by their records.

Mark my words. There's going to be widespread buyer's remorse on the right after this guy's been in office for a while. He's going to pick up right where he left off in Massachusetts, and there won't be enough TEA in Congress to stop him. All of you who are selling out your principles to support this liberal, are going to wonder why you sold yourselves so cheaply. At least I hope you'll have enough of a conscience to stop and reflect on what you've done.

But perhaps I've read you Romney supporters wrong all along. Maybe party really is more important to you than principle.

21 posted on 08/10/2012 4:32:50 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: conservaterian
If we don't send a message to the the GOP they will continue to throw us RINOs and people like you will continue to vote for them.

Message to Conservaterian: Sorry it's 2016. As you know from the past 4 years there will be no elections this year. You are lucky. RINOs will not be running this year. You can vote Communist or Socialist. Enjoy your options. Thanks for your support.

22 posted on 08/10/2012 4:48:45 PM PDT by Starstruck (Only the wealthy and the poor can afford socialism)
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To: Windflier

Nobody cares who you vote for.


23 posted on 08/10/2012 4:54:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: Starstruck
Message to Conservaterian: Sorry it's 2016. As you know from the past 4 years there will be no elections this year. You are lucky. RINOs will not be running this year. You can vote Communist or Socialist. Enjoy your options. Thanks for your support.
You know what? As much as I hate Obama and as much as some of you have your little fantasy lives, Obama will not turn the country into a dictatorship in the next four years. He will not put all conservatives into concentration camps, he will not close down Congress, etc. etc. He WILL try to get his socialist policies passed, he will continue and expand Obamacare, he will do a lot of things we don't like but how about let's put our energy into stopping THAT instead of continuing daydream, paranoid fantasies. I DONT want Obama to have another term but Romney is a total POS and I will not vote for him. If we let the Republicans force another RINO on us do you think it will end in 2016? 2020? 2024? I backed Bush for two terms (reluctantly the second time) and held my nose and voted for McCain, just for the hope he would have to abdicate and we would have Sarah, but we have to send the GOPe a message. NO MORE RINOS. We need to get Virgil Goode as many votes as possible to send that message. I GUARANTEE you if we back Romney in this election the GOPe will know that they can do whatever they want to us and we will always come back to the fold. Well, for me, no more. Romney will not get my vote, Goode is the only option I see. If Obama gets re-elected, so be it, the world will not end, we will fight him every step and maybe, just maybe the GOP will see the light in 2016, if not, it's time for a third party. Romney doesn't have a chance anyway, but if you live in a battleground state and feel you have to, go ahead and try to make Romney a winner in those states. If you live in a solid red or solid blue state, why waste your vote? Vote for Goode and let's send a real message this time or we will be having this same conversation four years from now.
24 posted on 08/10/2012 5:23:08 PM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12-NOPE Cain?- Guess NOT. ABO & ABMR. I'm going Goode.)
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To: conservaterian
You mean all the power we have like being able to get a real conservative as our nominee this year. You can blame GOPe all you want, but we were not able to change crap being a good portion of the party. Third party will take how many years? Meanwhile the numbers not paying taxes will increase beyond 50 %. They will vote for the socialists.

I hate the fact that I feel the need to vote for Romney, but I honestly think this nation will not survive 4 more years of Obama. Look at where we are after only 4 with him steel having to look for reelection. Yeah he doesn't have the super majority, but his decree's appear to meet no resistance. Three Supreme Court appointee's (minimum) will also have a negative effect.

25 posted on 08/10/2012 5:56:39 PM PDT by Starstruck (Only the wealthy and the poor can afford socialism)
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To: jwalsh07
Nobody cares who you vote for.

Oh contraire, mon frere! Every Romneybot on this website INSISTS that I stuff my principles in a sock and line up with the rest of the lemmings to give OUR Socialist my solemn vote.

For the greater good, of course.

Never mind the fact that Mr. Romney is probably a lot more palatable to moderate Democrats, who the Romneybots ought to be campaigning to, instead of browbeating honest conservatives over the head.

26 posted on 08/10/2012 7:30:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I don’t like the French. At all. Though I’m quite sure that nobody cares.


27 posted on 08/11/2012 6:46:30 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: Windflier; All
But perhaps I've read you Romney supporters wrong all along. Maybe party really is more important to you than principle.

Why can’t I get through to you that it’s because of my principles I support Romney? My principles are to vote for the electable candidate that most closely approximates my conservative values. If the choice is between a socialist and a moderate, I’ll vote for the moderate because (a) he’ll do less damage and (b) I have more influence on him.

But what I’m really curious about is whether Romney’s pick of Ryan as his VP has moved your opinion. Ryan is more conservative than Romney, solidly in the Tea Party ranks and has the support of Sarah Palin.

I attended the rally in Norfolk and it was packed; the lines were very long to get in and it was hot. There were people of all races, all genders and all ages. It was a crowd that looked like America.

28 posted on 08/12/2012 12:25:04 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner
Why can’t I get through to you that it’s because of my principles I support Romney?

Perhaps it's because you're trying to convince me that 'our' Socialist is somehow better than 'their' Socialist.

Oh, I can agree that Romney isn't nearly as putrid as Obama is in many ways, but in my observation, most of the differences between them are either superficial, or only in matters of degree - not kind.

Both Obama and Romney stand squarely opposed to everything that I believe in. It's no more complicated than that. You tell me that I ought to support Romney, so as to dislodge the monster, Obama. Ok, but from my point of view, there won't be any substantive difference in a Romney administration, so what exactly would compel me support him?

Frankly, folks are just going to have to get used to the idea that Romney hasn't made the sale with a lot of principled conservatives, and that in fact, he's convinced a great many of us that he and Obama are of the same ilk. Browbeating us isn't going to change our minds about him. We've seen the evidence of his cowardly liberalism, and we're repelled by it.

I suggest that you'll find more fertile pastures among the wavering Independents and moderate Democrats, than among the 'line-in-the-sand' conservatives.

29 posted on 08/12/2012 9:34:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
OK, so what do the “line in the sand” demand as a policy? I'm genuinely curious. Could you tell me what your ideal candidate would do if he were to become President?
30 posted on 08/13/2012 5:07:29 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner
OK, so what do the “line in the sand” demand as a policy? I'm genuinely curious. Could you tell me what your ideal candidate would do if he were to become President?

Well, I can tell you what he or she wouldn't do, and that's govern like Romney and Obama have.

That's a moot point, though. Conservatives have yet again been frozen out of the presidential choice, despite the fact that we're the largest single voting block in the country.

A heinous and most despicable manipulation has been going on in the highest political circles, since at least the time of Reagan. It's designed to ensure the dominance and success of a powerful subset of people whose agenda runs exactly counter to the precepts and ideals this nation was forged upon.

They've got control of the process, and will never allow another Reagan to be elected president. This is why the Republican nominee is a documented liberal progressive this go-round. He's eminently acceptable to them.

And just like in every election since the time of Reagan, conservatives are lining up like good little sheep, and giving their stamp of approval to the manipulators' candidate.

Personally, I'd rather the whole thing go to hell, than give my approval to such treason.

31 posted on 08/13/2012 8:22:17 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I’m still curious. What would your ideal President do? For example, what would Sarah Palin do (assuming she were President)? Or is she not conservative enough? If we were able to resurrect Ronald Reagan, what would you expect him to do?


32 posted on 08/13/2012 8:43:22 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner
I’m still curious. What would your ideal President do? For example, what would Sarah Palin do (assuming she were President)? Or is she not conservative enough? If we were able to resurrect Ronald Reagan, what would you expect him to do?

Friend, I can appreciate that you're curious as to how I feel about the above questions, but those questions are non sequitur to the topic at hand, and frankly, the answers are a moot point. The establishment has seen to it that we'll have none of that for at least the next four years.

It's a 'what if' conversation at best, and not worth either of our time to discuss.

If we're to be responsible citizens, we need to confront exactly what sort of president Romney's going to be, what the likely make up of the House and Senate will be (R vs D), and then determine to the best of our ability what sort of power dynamics that will create.

The game going forward will be correctly sizing this up, and finding where we conservatives need to push the hardest to help steer the ship in the right direction.

33 posted on 08/13/2012 3:07:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I’m sorry, I have no idea where you want this “ship” that you refer to, to go. All I hear is “not there.” What’s funny is that is the answer that Tim Geitner gave to Paul Ryan on reform of entitlement: “we don’t have a plan, but we don’t like yours.” He was roundly ridiculed on my side of the debate for that . Have you ever considered that policy positions like yours could be the reason serious people are not listening to you?

So long.


34 posted on 08/14/2012 8:19:04 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner
So long.

Thank you! I thought you'd never leave.

35 posted on 08/14/2012 12:49:26 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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