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At Last Standing Up To Those Who Do Mudslinging
http://annem040359.wordpress.com/ ^ | August 15, 2012 | annem040359

Posted on 08/15/2012 10:28:28 AM PDT by Biggirl

Could we be REALLY SEEING a much stronger Mitt Romney emerge to take on the mudslinging that is coming from the President Barack Hussein Obama re-election team?

Yesterday GOP/Republican 2012 United States of America frontrunner Mitt Romney hits very strong and hard President Obama on the issue of the personal attacks that are coming from the President Obama’s White House and the Democrats. He was very much right in calling out President Obama and the attacks by making it very clear that what President Obama is doing is a sign of a very angry and desperate man.

“Mr. President, take your campaign of division and anger and hate back to Chicago“, Mr. Romney had said while doing campaigning stops in Ohio. Mr. Romney not only sent the message direct to President Obama, but to all who are working on his re-election campaign, which include any super pacs. This includes the super pace which put out that very disgusting political tv and internet ad about a man who lost his wife to cancer with an effort to blame Mr. Romney for both her cancer and her death. What was so wrong with this very down and dirty political ad is that not only it was false but also it uses a man in this time of sorrow over the passing of his wife to attack a candidate running for political office.

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1 posted on 08/15/2012 10:28:31 AM PDT by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

Romney needs to demand that the economy be brought up in the debates. It is one of the most important subjects of our time. If the moderators don’t bring it up, he needs to ask Obama what he is going to do about the economy and demand an answer before going on to another subject.


2 posted on 08/15/2012 10:32:38 AM PDT by RC2 (Support the Wounded Warrior Project......please.)
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To: Biggirl

Imagine...conservatives all over the country standing up and calling out all the left wing liars out! I for one am doing things like: For starters..go to Wikipedia and wiki Romney and Ryan (and any others under attack by the left). Check the sources of the info about their politics etc. Call them out! NOW! Report what you find!


3 posted on 08/15/2012 10:32:50 AM PDT by nagdt ("None of my EX's live in Texas")
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To: Biggirl

Now Romney is a racist.

/sarc

Maybe Romney should hire me on to fire back at the attacks on him.


4 posted on 08/15/2012 10:32:57 AM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: Biggirl

It should not be about ‘mudslinging’ and protecting
Romney. IT SHOULD BE ABOUT PROJECTING LOUDLY
CONSERVATIVE VALUES against ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE,
Death Panels, DNC corruption, the absence of justice
in America under Obama, and the lack of Constitutional
principles by Obama and the Congress and the Courts.


5 posted on 08/15/2012 10:34:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis (M)
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To: Biggirl

If mittens grows a spine, and takes the fight to the liberals, he might actuallty earn some respect (and votes) from conservatives. Bringing Ryan on board was a good step, so tell romney to take the gloves off, and take it to the next level, he has nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Oh, and set Ryan loose like a junkyard dog on liberals, he has the conservative creds to back him up.


6 posted on 08/15/2012 10:48:47 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Biggirl

Any resistance to Obama is more than he expects, especially after having run against McCain the last time. McCain couldn’t have been more accommodating to little Barry. McCain wanted to win a PR contest with the media, now the Obamamedia. McCain lost. But now, Romney wants to win the presidency. So, Obama is back to his dirty tricks, which is all he has, and that ain’t nothing, considering he has his Obamamedia backing him up. Obama knows his media is worth a billion dollars in campaign advertising. How dare this Romney fellow to stand up against all that. Come November, he is going to be saying, “How dare Romney win.” ...The stretch between November and January is going to be interesting.


7 posted on 08/15/2012 11:00:18 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Diogenesis
When President Bush tried to make the presidency about issues, the Democrats, the Liberal-Progressive Press and the Liberal-Progressive Congress made it about hate and lies. President Bush lost the initiative, and the press made a heyday out of the situation.

So ride forth into the the battle, Mr. Romney. Swing that machairan and let them fall where they may.
8 posted on 08/15/2012 11:36:49 AM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: RC2

It would probably look bad if he tried to ask Obama a direct question in a debate that wasn’t structured to allow direct questions between the two debaters, but he should definitely ask the moderator, around the time of question #3... (time for a push-back)... why aren’t we talking about what everybody outside the msm is worried about???


9 posted on 08/15/2012 11:45:28 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: factoryrat; DJ MacWoW; TheOldLady; LucyT; bitt; cripplecreek; detective; SatinDoll; KansasGirl; ...

” - - - If mittens grows a spine, and takes the fight to the liberals, he might actuallty earn some respect (and votes) from conservatives. “

BTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Romney is THE sorriest “Warrior” Presidential Candidate that I have ever seen!

His voice goes down when he makes a strong point, he smiles when Obama flings mud in his face, he dwells on soft, touchy-feely nuances, never delivers a RED MEAT speech to the Conservative Base, never gives a soaring rhetoric and inspirational speech that we can remember during the campaign, has no inspiring sound-bites for the sound bite Media of today, has a 59 point plan when most people can only grasp 3 points, has no ‘Joe the Plumber’ on his staff of speech writers, etc., etc., etc.

If the Republicans want a sissy to lead them into combat with the no-rules, hardened, street-fighter commies from Chicago, well, they have their GOP-Elite endorsed, sissy, pretty-boy in Romney.

“Take it back to Chicago” is an insult to Chicago! “Put it where the Sun don’t shine.” fits the situation better, (pun intended).

With the possible exception of choosing Ryan to be his veep, Romney is doing everything in his sorry power to lose to Obama by at least 10 % in November!

Where is the outrage, fury and passion in Romney that matches us out here in Fly Over Country?

Small wonder then that there is NO grass-roots surge of support for Romney going into the Convention!

We have suffered the lack of leadership from the RINOs long enough! We will not tolerate a wimp RINO like Romney losing to Obama, like McCain did in 2008! Do NOT be surprised if Lame-Brained McCain is booed in Tampa.

What evidence does Romney exhibit that he can inspire us to believe that he will fight the gooey mass of Obamanation laws and regulations that has thrown The US Federal Government onto the Wrong Track of European Socialism?

Choosing Ryan was a good start, but Romney has to pull his weight NOW! Tick-Tock!

Where is the Leader that we will follow into the Gates of Hell?

It certainly is NOT Keep-the-Mittens-on Mitt!

If Romney cannot ‘give as good as he gets,’ then he needs to resign and let Ryan be the Republican Nominee for 2012!

If Dwight Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan were alive and healthy today what would each of them tell Romney?

To Romney: Are you a Warrior or a Wimp? Tick-Tock.


10 posted on 08/15/2012 11:49:12 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Diogenesis; Jim Robinson; SkyPilot; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; ejonesie22; Godzilla; ...
Here is a video from a man greatly respected in Evangelical ranks, Ravi Zacharias. Beginning at about minute five and following, he explains the current dilemma in having Obama and Romney as one of which will be the next president. You might find it instructional:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWLzHt8ImyE&feature=related

11 posted on 08/15/2012 11:59:15 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: pallis
McCain wanted to win a PR contest with the media, now the Obamamedia. McCain lost.
McCain didn't want to win a PR contest, he wanted to be liked by the media, the libs, the hollyweirds and the foreign commies. That's all he's ever wanted. He thought he would get that by getting down on his knees and licking the soles of Obama's shoes, and they did pet him on the head, but they don't really like him.
12 posted on 08/15/2012 12:02:06 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: Biggirl

HEY !!! Willard !!!

1978


13 posted on 08/15/2012 1:25:17 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: samtheman

I know Romney is no Newt . . . but Willard should challenge O to a Lincoln Douglas style debate. Make a big deal of it. O is too chicken.


14 posted on 08/15/2012 2:05:32 PM PDT by Qwackertoo (Romney/Ryan 2012 The Future of Our Children and Their Children are at stake.)
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To: MHGinTN

I well know Ravi. I understand his point of view, but I disagree.


15 posted on 08/15/2012 4:00:38 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 08/15/2012 9:11:55 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MHGinTN; Alamo-Girl; Diogenesis; Jim Robinson; SkyPilot; ejonesie22; Godzilla
"...when you're choosing between leaders, none of whom will give you the groundswell of the Christian faith on which [your] life is built...you have to go for a person who will help a nation provide the best moral soil on which the freedom to believe and disbelieve can actually function. It is on a moral soil that the freedom to believe actually works best, and Truth can ultimately triumph.

If you have an immoral soil created, then the Truth is evicted, and you're not even given the opportunity of voicing your ideas in the marketplace and in the public setting and in the arena.

The Christian faith ought to have a voice in the marketplace, it ought to have a voice in the academy, it ought to have a voice in politics, it ought to have a voice in business. And any leader that'll create the moral soil to make it possible for us to continue to proclaim that, that's the kind of leader we may have to ultimately work, no matter what tag they put on them on the outside.

If you're choosing between those for whom the Christ is not supreme in salvation, you have to choose one who will give you the best moral soil in order to allow you to live in Christ, and live out your faith. [quoted from around 5:35 forward in the teleplay]

I couldn't agree with Zacharias more.

And that definitely leaves Obama out of the picture: He is totally amoral. Worse, he's vicious towards all who disagree with him. He could care less about "good moral soil" in which religious freedom can flourish. "Life in Christ" is just a silly superstition to him. He hates Christianity because he knows that it is the foundation of the traditional America that he is deliberately trying to destroy.

Romney is theologically beyond the pale in the view of many Christians; but he has always conducted himself as a moral, upright person, certainly not one inclined to evict the views of Christians from the marketplace of ideas, or otherwise to punish them for what they believe.

Politics is the art of the possible: You have to do the best you can under the REAL CONDITIONS.

JMHO, FWIW

Thank you so much, dear brother in Christ, for posting this link!

17 posted on 08/16/2012 9:52:26 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop

A man who by his own admissions and boasts supported legalized abortion and government sanctioned, taxpayer funded infanticide for over 30 years of his adult life and still supports the homosexual agenda even today was and is neither Christian or moral.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded


18 posted on 08/16/2012 10:08:23 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: betty boop
Politics is the art of the possible: You have to do the best you can under the REAL CONDITIONS.

Indeed. Nobody's perfect. My main concern is to vote as God leads because the U.S. problems all stem from spiritual deafness.

Thank you for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!

19 posted on 08/16/2012 10:36:44 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl; ThirstyMan
no, some of us who hate Obama hate Romney as much and wont be voting for Romney, either.

That's a quote of a reply to the video at the link you provided. And if I'm not mistaken, that is your position as well.

But at the end of the day, all this gets you is four more years of Obama.

Virgil Goode does not have a snowball's chance in Hell of becoming President of the United States. So what does that leave you with: Armed insurrection?

Such a thing would be very short-lived. Obama would take a "fly-swatter" to it in no time. No sweat!

As for the teleplay at the link, IMHO it is a bunch of cherry-picked quotes without regard to any deeper context in support of iron-clad preconceived notions.

You could cherry-pick quotes from me made over the past 30 years and "prove" that betty boop is the most despicable person who ever drew breath here on Earth.

I mean, if that was your intention, I'm sure you could do it.

As if I am reducible to statements I have made in the past, and am so defined by them that I can never change my mind about things, that growing knowledge and experience over time — not to mention a Christian conversion along the way — count for nothing.

I almost never rely on a person's verbal statements as a means of discerning his character. I look at his deeds.

Even on that score, Romney isn't perfect — I truly deplore his decision not to raise the riot act against the Supreme Judicial Court when it (unconstitutionally) instituted gay marriage here in Massachusetts. If the man has a fault, it seems to me it is a reluctance to disturb the public peace, or too much willingness to reach out to the other side in order to make an accommodation "to get things done." [But with Paul Ryan on the ticket, I believe Romney gains a much clearer, disciplined ideological focus.]

Massachusetts is a very strange, ideologically disordered place, and has been for many decades. Romney could neither cure this situation, nor even get elected here, without acknowledging what are, in fact, the majoritarian views of the Commonwealth.

On the other hand, I look at his deeds, his accomplishments private and public. He is a staunch family man, raising five sons with a loving wife of some 40 years; he killed the massive corruption that had infested the Salt Lake City Olympic games, turning the games into a source of great American pride; he has a stellar business record, and a reputation for scrupulous honesty in all his business dealings. In public life, he balanced the Massachusetts budget without raising taxes. As far as the RKBA is concerned, under Romney, my Class A License to Carry (a high-capacity firearm) was upgraded from a "Sporting" restriction to "All Lawful Purposes." If anything, that meant to me that the State was recognizing that the RBKA is NOT restricted to sporting purposes, but acknowledges (for the first time in my life) that I actually have a RIGHT to self-defense, not just a right to go down to the shooting range, or go hunting.

I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree, Jim. I hope we may continue to do that in a civil, good-faith manner.

Thank you so much for your observations.

20 posted on 08/16/2012 11:33:51 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop; onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; RedMDer; musicman; Lady Jag; MEG33; ..

Respectfully, I place my faith in God. With God ALL things are possible.

If Romney is serious about the fight for life, he should be forceful about it and immediately lay out his plans to overturn Roe v Wade and whatever other unconstitutional judicial rulings stand in the way of outlawing abortion. He should lay out his plans of impeaching all leftist activist judges that are usurping the constitution. He should declare war on the usurping abortionist/homosexualist/communist statist left!!

He should announce his intentions of forever defunding Planned Parenthood and any and all other political groups (left, right or in between) now unconstitutionally receiving taxpayer funds! He should declare war on the abortion industry!! He should forcefully defend the constitution and our God-given unalienable rights to life and liberty to the hilt!! He should consult with Ryan who apparently gets it that our rights come from God. He should deputize Ryan to lead the war against the corrupt abortionist/homosexualist/unionist communist bastards that have clearly been fighting a war against us for the past 50 years or more!! An unanswered war!! Don’t look now but the godless leftist bastards are winning because we do not have leaders who fight!!

We need to impeach all the leftist/activist black robed rulers and get them the hell out of government!!

To hell with hundreds of pages of political plans to tweak the economy. Tweaking does not get it done!! The federal government has no business controlling or tweaking the economy anyway.

Declare war against the leftist usurpers and their unconstitutional statist government they’ve created. Defund and dismantle the unconstitutional federal beast and release the pent up free economy. Set our people free to pursue happiness, prosperity, freedom and God!!

This is not politics. Paraphasing leftist James Carville, this is wahr!!

This is open rebellion AGAINST politics!! Rove, Romney, et al, just don’t get it.

Long live the tea party rebellion of which Romney sneers!!

I sincerely doubt that Romney’s up to the leadership task.

Romney is a wimp!! Status quo and the continued slide into the godless socialist abyss is the best he can possibly muster. And the worse he can do is already in his record. He’s been a godless leftist usurping bastard himself for his entire adult life and I doubt that will change.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded


21 posted on 08/16/2012 11:38:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT


22 posted on 08/16/2012 11:58:43 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; hosepipe
My main concern is to vote as God leads because the U.S. problems all stem from spiritual deafness.

And spiritual blindness. (Self-imposed in both cases, it seems to me.)

But if one closes one's soul to God, one becomes either a mere animal — or a machine. One loses one's humanity either way.

May God ever bless you, my dearest sister in Christ: For some of us have the spirit of Christ, but you exemplify (to me) the mind of Christ.

23 posted on 08/16/2012 12:05:45 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: Jim Robinson
Respectfully, I place my faith in God. With God ALL things are possible.

So do I, Jim. With God, all things are possible.

But does that mean we expect God to do all the heavy lifting here?

It is my belief that God acts both directly, and through the souls of humans who love Him. Call it a divine–human partnership in Truth.

What if God has placed Romney before us as a test? Meaning, that God wants US to do the heavy lifting??? That is, to discern His Truth in a very cloudy situation??? And ACT on that discernment???

Other than that not-so-minor quibble, I completely agree with your analysis of the current situation.

Thank you, dear JimRob, for your outstanding observations!

24 posted on 08/16/2012 12:15:16 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you Jim!


25 posted on 08/16/2012 12:18:00 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Set our people free to pursue happiness, prosperity, freedom and God!!"

As it appears now, in January 2013 either Mitt Romney or Barack Obama will be 'sworn in' as the president for the next four years (let's hope the pirate Roberts can get it right the first time this time).

IF someone can explain to me how the so much hated Romney or the so obviously anti-American Obama will free the people to pursue happiness, prosperity, freedom, and God will accomplish this, then I would be most hopeful.

But that is not gonna happen 'cause neither meets the perfection required to accomplish that. So I believe we are left to calculate based upon what Ravi offered, looking at which of the two will be more inclined to maintain the more moral soil. If you close your mind to any hope that Romney will at least apply the fundamental family values of his non-Christian religion, you offer no hope for the Republic other than rebellion and chaos and armed conflict in the end.

Working to prevent Romney from deposing the little barry bastard commie will leave US with four more years of Obama. To claim you don't want four more years of Obama, yet work so hard to prevent the alternative with which we are presented seems irrational, Mister Robinson.

26 posted on 08/16/2012 12:32:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: betty boop

No. We the tea party are doing the heavy lifting. Or were until many of the weaker ones caved-in and surrendered. We are doing the heavy lifting because our so-called Republican “leaders” went AWOL!!


27 posted on 08/16/2012 12:33:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: betty boop

And why did they cave-in? FEAR! Fear of Obama. We should not fear him, we should fight him!! We should double and redouble our efforts to IMPEACH him and remove him and his entire treasonous cabal. God knows he’s committed plenty enough impeachable offense and will commit many more. The man has admitted loathing the constitution which he feels is a flawed document and he’s usurping it daily.


28 posted on 08/16/2012 12:37:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, so many of us at FR agree that Obama should be impeached and removed. That cannot happen until the despicable Harry Reid no longer controls the Senate AND enough conservative Tea Party representatives have taken seats in the House.

The incessant hate mongering toward Romney does not encourage turnout. In fact, since the position of president is what drives incresed conservative turnout, how will incessant hate mongering toward Romney cause greater turnout, to rid the Senate of Democrat control and improve the Tea Party presence in the House?

29 posted on 08/16/2012 12:46:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

That’s why I urge everyone to vote early and vote often (as the liberals like to say). And vote straight CONSERVATIVE!! Impeach/remove the corrupt godless abortionist/homosexualist/unionist/statist bastards from every level of government all across this great land!!

That’s what the tea party rebellion should be striving for!!


30 posted on 08/16/2012 1:04:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl; ThirstyMan
No. We the tea party are doing the heavy lifting. Or were until many of the weaker ones caved-in and surrendered. We are doing the heavy lifting because our so-called Republican “leaders” went AWOL!!

I resigned from the Republican party two years ago, because the "official" party held ME in so much contempt — as a bona fide member of the Tea Party.

When the GOP decided that their own "grass roots" — i.e., Tea Party conservatives — were, for all their "official" purposes, to be held in contempt, I HAD to leave. For to me, it was obvious the "official party" had simply lost its mind. It seemed that in its insanity, its "big-tent" delusions, the GOP was plainly disparaging its own natural base — and I took it "personally."

I am now an "Independent" (in Massachusetts, read "Unenrolled") voter. I like it just fine that way.

I hope you were not suggesting that I am one of "the weaker ones [who] caved-in and surrendered" to the GOP status quo. I mainly detest those morons.... That's why I left the party.

At this point, may I just note that a whole bunch of bona-fide Tea Partiers have made their peace and are now supporting the Romney/Ryan ticket???

One notable exception being FR itself.

Just sayin'. FWIW.

31 posted on 08/16/2012 1:17:10 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl; ThirstyMan
God knows [Obama has] committed plenty enough impeachable offense and will commit many more. The man has admitted loathing the constitution which he feels is a flawed document and he’s usurping it daily.

Not only God knows that; I do also.

So, why are you fighting Romney with such passion?

I choose to fight Obama — with all my heart and soul.

The Constitution is not a "flawed document." Obama is a flawed man who should be removed from office. [I have fantasies about the Joint Chiefs assaulting the Oval Office and taking this criminal into custody. It hasn't happened, and probably never will happen; but to me it would be Justice.]

I do not know why he HASN'T been impeached by now. Lack of courage in Congress? He so justly deserves impeachment, on a multiplicity of just grounds.

Why wait for an impeachment that may never come? Just vote him out of office, directly, come November 6th.

Seems the easier course by far. And closer to We the People than any Congressional impeachment could ever be.

Just some thoughts, dear JimRob, FWIW.

32 posted on 08/16/2012 1:29:54 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: Jim Robinson

If Romney is serious about the fight for life, he should be forceful about it and immediately lay out his plans to overturn Roe v Wade and whatever other unconstitutional judicial rulings stand in the way of outlawing abortion. He should lay out his plans of impeaching all leftist activist judges that are usurping the constitution. He should declare war on the usurping abortionist/homosexualist/communist statist left!!

Maybe he’s waiting ‘til the convention.

Hey, a guy can still dream , right? :-|

(Is he a member of CFR? He used to be on the RMSP web site.)

The last thing WE need now is a moderate ‘polite’ President in charge.. and a man who can handle his TEA.

WE need a man of action and conservative agenda that works to restore and not continue to undermine the Republic and our economy.

..but we will get what we get.. so much for self-determination... Thank God for clothes pins.

if we’re lucky, it rains hard and long in heavily Rat voting districts. ‘With God ALL things are possible.’ 8-]


33 posted on 08/16/2012 1:37:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: betty boop

Because Romney is the same damned thing as Obama. Sheesh. Look at his history. He has not and will not change. He lies. He lies to gain power!! He does and says whatever he thinks he has to do and say to get elected. Again, that’s what he’s always done. Look at his record. He’s Lying for the Lord!!

He’s an evil bastard through and through. No one but a thoroughly evil man can advocate for mass murder of the most innocent and vulnerable for thirty some odd years of his adult life and at the same time claim to be Christian!!


34 posted on 08/16/2012 1:55:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: betty boop

Romney’s of exactly the same immoral mindset as Obama, Reid, Clinton, Kennedy, Pelosi, Biden, et al. All claim to be Christian while pushing their godless abortionist/homosexualist statist policies.


35 posted on 08/16/2012 1:59:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl; ThirstyMan; MHGinTN; YHAOS
Jeepers, Jim, at this point I feel I'm trying to reason with a box of rocks.

You are so "sure" of yourself, that any evidence that does not conform to your opinion is simply relegated to the category of "no data."

I wonder whether you appreciate that this reflects the same style of thinking that I deplore in doctrinaire evolutionary Darwinists, and disciples of Saul Alinsky....

The tactics are the same, even though the desired outcomes are different.

I'm done now. There's nothing more that I can add.

Except my thanks for hosting a (formerly) great website.

Is this my "swan song?"

Thank you for your correspondence in these matters.

36 posted on 08/16/2012 2:22:32 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop

You’ve presented no evidence to dispute the plain facts on record.


37 posted on 08/16/2012 2:28:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl; ThirstyMan; MHGinTN
You’ve presented no evidence to dispute the plain facts on record.

And neither have you. All you've presented is so much hear-say, filtered through certain rigid presuppositions that may be quite faulty from the get-go.

In short, there seems to be a certain rigidity in entertaining any new perspective on current matters that does not exactly dovetail with a decision you have already made, for good or ill.

May God ever bless you, JimRob, and shine His Light upon you. In the end His Truth is indefatiguable, inexhaustible, and shall prevail, now and always.

I pray His blessings may be with you and all your dear ones, forever and ever.

I just don't know what I can say further. So I'm "done."

38 posted on 08/16/2012 2:40:50 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop

Here’s my evidence and it was presented by Romney himself. Please watch it all the way through if you can stomach it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded

No one has presented any evidence (other than his flip-flopping lies that he can’t even keep straight) that he has changed on any of this.

I’m still praying that the Republicans come to their senses at the convention and nominate a REPUBLICAN not a liberal progressive. Maybe Ryan would be a good choice, I don’t know.

Perhaps after the convention if Romney’s the chosen one, I’ll be quiet and let nature run it’s course, but you can bet I will not vote for him. But that doesn’t amount to a hill of beans out here in Kalifornia. And I definitely will not endorse him either.


39 posted on 08/16/2012 2:53:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: betty boop

Voting straight CONSERVATIVE here!! Praying we hae the majority to IMPEACH pResident Obama should Romney not be up to the task.


40 posted on 08/16/2012 2:55:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, the House is currently controlled by the Republicans. It is very unlikely that Tea Party conservatives are going to take control of the House through the November elections. Boehner may not be the Speaker come February 2013, but do you really think the same feckless republicans who will be around still in February 2013, who fear the media bad mouthing them more than they honor their oath to OUR Constitution are going to impeach the commie-in-chief if he has four more years to work his Soros magic?

I guess what I'm trying to get through to you is the fact that it is up to We The People to remove the communist bastard now soiling the White House! The Republican controlled House won't even try to stop leftist judges, or pass legislation to thwart a Roberts ruling that empowers obamacare!

The numerous, onerous presidential dictates (euphemistically called 'executive orders') haven't prompted the feckless pubbies to get off their lazy butts to actually use their powers to thwart the dictator, so what makes you believe after the NOvember ballots are counted these same Republicans will have the guts to impeach the bastard? No, we see what Congress does, we see how quiet the Republicans have been, cowed as they are by media bad mouthing them.

We The People will have to remove Hussein Soetoro or else he will complete his destruction of the Republic, and when he's through you will not be voting for tea party candidates unless his regime allows it, which you know they will not do unless they know they will retain power to nullify conservatism.

Please take just a rational moment to consider the following question: which of the two most likely to be elected president in November do you really believe We The Conservative People have a chance to influence over the next four years? If you tell me neither I have to shake my head in amazement, because it will signal you really see no difference in he two candidates!

Is Romney a conservative? No, never has been and never will be. Both men are left of center. But really, which one is the extreme left of center and which one is marginally left of center? If Romney is elected, he will be acutely aware of having a positive legacy as the first Mormon elected to the presidency ... and what idiot believes a legacy is worth spit if there is no Republic in which to read about the events of a Romney presidency?

If Hussein Soetoro is reelected, there is a very real chance that We The People will never again have a truly open and fair election, and there is also a very real chance that chaos and mayhem will be the order of Holder's days ahead, as he helps train the flash racists to do his terrorizing of the populace who oppose the final destruction of America. Think Treyvon Martin writ large across the nation, wherever people defend themselves against gansta thuggery by 'Holder's people'! Think executive order amnesty and forced acceptance of green card voters. Think fascist commerce controls. Think out sourcing vote counting to a Soros owned Spanish company, with no trail to insure legitimacy of the vote count.

Which man, Romney or Obama has as their designed goal the legacy of transforming America into a 'new European Socialist nation? Which candidate actually hates America and has been a socialist party political candidate int eh past? Which candidate has tried to expand the federal oligarchy and empower unconstitutional edicts via an army of regulators, czars, crooked bankers, and outright racist hate mongerers? And which candidate loves this Republic and is a family oriented man in a religion that, albeit not a Christian religion, is a religion which generates conservative voting people who also love America?

How much sense does it make for c onservative website to work actively to assist a commie bastard to get reelected? If you are half as dedicated to fighting against liberals and leftists as you have shown in the past you are, which candidate do you truthfully think you have a chance to direct toward conservative policies at least part of the time, and buy time to get more Tea Party representatives into the House and Senate?

This isn't rocket science, JIm. Romney is more malleable than the commie bastard boy now running the Republic into the crapper!

41 posted on 08/16/2012 4:31:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

Well, you’re another guy who just doesn’t get it. FR is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-small government, pro-constitution, pro-liberty, etc. Romney is none of the above and does not earn my vote or support. Period.

We are in Rebellion against all of these liberal progressive statist bastards!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded


42 posted on 08/16/2012 4:58:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Jim, I get it that you won’t vote for the left of center Romney. I’ve been here twelve years. Do you really think I don’t get what FR stands for? What I am having trouble assemiliating in your active work is the effort to prevent Romney from winning the election without your vote. Why would you work to prevent Romney from winning to oust Obama? Which is to say, why are you working actively to get Obama reelected? I can understand and honor your reasons for not voting for Romney. I cannot understand why you are working to get Obama reelcted, since I’m certain you know Tom Hoefling or Virgil Goode is not going to beat Obama and thus remove him from power. So far, by using our votes, We The People can remove the criminal liar from power. But to work to prevent the alternative from ousting Obama is counter to at least maintaining a free Republic.


43 posted on 08/16/2012 5:21:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

Get it through your thick, but full of mush skull. I’m not going to vote for a fricking abortionist/homosexualist liberal progressive statist. Period. And I’m certainly not going to support him. Sheesh!!


44 posted on 08/16/2012 5:24:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Perhaps after the convention if Romney’s the chosen one, I’ll be quiet and let nature run it’s course, but you can bet I will not vote for him. But that doesn’t amount to a hill of beans out here in Kalifornia. And I definitely will not endorse him either.”

EVERY vote counts.....even in the left coast. Even though the electorial vote is what really matters. The popular vote has a psychological significance. It limits a “mandate” - so it is important.

I’m leaning towards shutting up on opposing Romney here on FR (I will still NEVER vote for or “support” him) - I have already lessened my posts. I’m tired of being dog piled on as a “Obama Supporter” etc. All lies, but there is no stopping it. I will quietly vote third party, and know I wasn’t a sell-out.


45 posted on 08/16/2012 5:39:13 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: MHGinTN; Jim Robinson

“I can understand and honor your reasons for not voting for Romney. I cannot understand why you are working to get Obama reelcted, since I’m certain you know Tom Hoefling or Virgil Goode is not going to beat Obama and thus remove him from power.”

Guy, you totally contradict yourself. You “say” you can understand “honor”, but then contradict yourself by asking Jim to do a “dishonorably” thing by helping Romney get elected. Not voting for Romney, except to a mental retard, IS NOT the equivalent to voting for Obama. Get it through your to whatever little brain you may possess, that a person of “honor” doesn’t use one evil (Romney) to get rid of another evil (Obama). It is illogical, unless one doesn’t really believe that Romney is evil. And there is the rub. I keep reading where folks talk about how Romney was their last choice, but don’t seem to understand that to many of us, Romney was not nor ever will be a choice. Obama = evil Romney = Evil lesser of two evils still = evil. If your fear of Obama can make Romney “acceptable” to you....go for it dude. But stop harassing good folk that see both men as evil and not deserving of a moral person’s vote. Some people just won’t be forced into compromise on certain principles. Some day you are going to wish you had listened to Jim Robinson!


46 posted on 08/16/2012 5:54:35 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Jim Robinson

Knock it off.

Just kidding.

It is what it is. I feel various things. Do we let someone win who will do the same things as the current office holder while Conservatives and republicans begrudgingly agree and support those demonstrative things albeit at a slower pace, or do we let the other side destroy this country? Do we delay the inevitable that is happening by thinking we won something just to win something? Do we let the inevitable happen like a death of a thousand cuts by electing a fraud or do we get up and take it from bottom up once it’s done by letting the marxist rule?

Well, I would say let it burn. Sure. Resurrection after the coming downfall, but what keeps me wondering is cities like Detroit. Decades of decline. The blacks in this country and our new leading minority (hispanics) swinging for the low fences of poverty and dependency. They continue to vote for family devaluation, impoverishment, and chaos. California has taken a turn that may never turn back. Not one republican and by no means a Conservative was voted into a statewide office. Misery loves company? Harbinger of things to come?

So death of a thousand cuts or a quick death. That is my personal dilemma.

I am not one that sits around and thinks the new media is winning the battle. The grass roots maybe in specific spots, but the existing msm still rues the day. It’s entrenched and ensconced in liberal group think. They have successfully turned attention to hollywood and sports related happenings being of interest to most folks. Well done, I might add. Meanwhile the minority base and the liberal groups grow in number by immigration and by moral decay. We can win some lower battles but cultural mindsets have changed significantly over the past few decades, and with the influx of new voters co-opted by the education systems, freebies, and media influence - we seem to be in a losing battle.

All for FreeRepublic making a stand. Someone has to. It’s why I come here, donate, and have been a part of it.

Every election is the most important. What is this election really about though? Lessor of two evils? Money? Soul?

Just my thoughts. Torn old man seeing his country go by the wayside and finding it more and more difficult to sustain businesses and employ folks. Worried about my children’s future.


47 posted on 08/16/2012 5:58:36 PM PDT by commonguymd
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To: commonguymd

I’m not going to vote for a known gun-grabbing, global warming pushing, abortionist/homosexualist statist. Sorry.


48 posted on 08/16/2012 6:11:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you Jim for the ping to your excellent comment above.

There is no time left for small, hesitating steps, which are all that Romney is capable of. America is in desperate danger from decay -- political, economic, social, and spiritual -- that has been going on for over 50 years.

To turn America around and get her back on track, we need to support leaders who have the stomach for Rebellion, not a bunch of weak-willed, self-serving, do-gooder, moderate politicians who don't see that what we face is Marxist cultural warfare against all that America has stood for since the First Revolution over 230 years ago!

We cannot afford to waste our voices and votes on politicians who can't fight that fight for America's future. We have to resist the temptation to settle for lesser evils, when what is needed is a complete rejection of establishment politics!

Recovery may not happen right away, it may take a few elections, but it must happen, and we must not let ourselves get distracted!

We are the Resistance, and with God's help we will accomplish the restoration of America! God Bless you and FreeRepublic for leading this charge!

49 posted on 08/16/2012 6:13:31 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Very well stated!!


50 posted on 08/16/2012 6:16:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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