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1 posted on 08/17/2012 7:47:57 AM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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And whatever happened with the DXepartment of Education’s SWAT team that arrested a black guy, single father, and his kids, and held them for six hours, because the absconded nowhere-to-be-seen wife had not paid back her student loan?

do all these agents have the power of arrest?


2 posted on 08/17/2012 7:52:31 AM PDT by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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The “special agents” need almost 600 rounds each to be “armed when on official duty”.


3 posted on 08/17/2012 7:53:15 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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Hollow points? Aren’t those known as “cop killer bullets?” Why do these agencies want to kill cops? Or do they become “civilian killer bullets” when the government uses them?


4 posted on 08/17/2012 7:55:26 AM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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This goes back to 2010 but is relevant here:

http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2010/03/18/why-the-dept-of-education-needs-shotguns.htm


7 posted on 08/17/2012 8:03:25 AM PDT by DBrow
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Since when does every Feral agency arm itself?! Since when? There is _no_ Feral police power. This was/is well established law.


10 posted on 08/17/2012 8:25:39 AM PDT by veracious
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These agents investigate allegations of Social Security fraud

No. That's the FBI's job. Giving the SAA "special agents" only allows the SSA to be armed and become a rogue agency, just like the EPA and FDA.

11 posted on 08/17/2012 8:26:16 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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Our border agents(if fired on)are told to”run and hide”.This HUGE ammo buy smells like they are expecting social unrest(or are planning on instigating same).”THEY” are The Government!!


13 posted on 08/17/2012 8:40:42 AM PDT by bandleader
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Just some perspective for the discussion.

During my time in the Marine Corps, annual pistol qualification required 50 rounds per day for 3 to 4 days (Range week for pistol was usually Tuesday through Friday. Most officers and Staff NCOs where excellent marksmen and usually shot for record on Thursday, pre-qual day.)

For discussion purposes, let’s say that the 295 special agents of the Social Security Agency are really expert and require only two times through a similar course of fire to qualify.

At that rate of expenditure (295 agents x 100 rounds/year),
174,000 rounds of .357 ammunition is @ 5 3/4 years of amunition just for qualification; not an unreasonable amount especially considering that it distributed between 66 field offices. If the special agents shoot more frequently, the supply is even less.

As for the reported 175 million rounds of 5.56mm ammo ordered by DHS, that amount clearly requires more investigation.

DHS states on its website that it had 199,492 employees in 2011. Of these, U.S. Customs and Border Protection had the most employees with 58,575.

The following number is probably way too high, but let’s assume there are 75,000 employees within DHS that are armed and must to qualify with a 5.56mm caliber weapon each year. Let’s further assume they fire 100 rounds during qualification. That’s 7.5 million rounds per year. At that expenditure rate, 175 million rounds equals @23 years of 5.56mm ammunition requirement for qualification. For the 175 million rounds to be a 5 + year supply, the expenditure rate would have to be 400 rounds per year for each of the 75,000 shooters.


14 posted on 08/17/2012 8:41:32 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined Effort is the hammer that Human Will uses to forge Tomorrow on the anvil of Today.)
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Sounds like it’s time for some new, Tea Party backed laws.

“All armed federal employees shall be under the jurisdiction and supervision of the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, the Treasury Department, the United States Postal Inspection Service, or the Central Intelligence Agency.

“All arms and explosives provided to detachments assigned to other federal agencies and bureaus will be maintained and secured by the detachment’s parent agency.”


16 posted on 08/17/2012 8:51:17 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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600 rounds per agent? Over a year’s time that is only 50 rounds per month; barely enough to keep the skills tweaked.


19 posted on 08/17/2012 9:04:13 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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Sorry now that I sold all my firearms and ammo.


22 posted on 08/17/2012 9:15:12 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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