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Wargaming Termination of Tea Party Extremists
American Thinker ^ | August 22, 2012 | Cameraon Reddy

Posted on 08/22/2012 5:07:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee

Our military planners are openly discussing how to kill "Tea Party extremists" who have taken over a small town in the USA. Is this "operational lay-down" merely a "cartoonish and needlessly provocative scenario," as described by The Washington Times, or is it something much more malevolent?

The military scenario appears in the July 25, 2012 issue of the respected Small Wars Journal and posits that, while Obama will be thrown out of office in 2012, ten years of race- and immigrant-bashing by "right-wing demagogues" will have whipped white Americans into gang-like attacks on non-whites.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/wargaming_termination_of_tea_party_extremists.html#ixzz24HANT56n

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bloodoftyrants; cw2; cwiiping; govtabuse; shtf; swj; teaparty; tyranny
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This Small Wars Journal "Martial Law Meme" is getting traction.
1 posted on 08/22/2012 5:07:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ..

CW2 Ping

More on the Small Wars Journal's insanely provocative essay, which imagines that the US Army will need to be sent into the South to crush an uprising by The Evil White Racist Tea Party Militia.

2 posted on 08/22/2012 5:10:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Let’s turn this media and liberal fueled fantasy: After ten years of race- and immigrant-bashing by “right-wing demagogues” will have whipped white Americans into gang-like attacks on non-whites.”

Into this REALITY: After ten years of race- and immigrant-BAITING by “lwft-wing politicians and the drive-by media”
HAVE whipped black Americans into gang-like attacks on non-blacks.


3 posted on 08/22/2012 5:11:18 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

And if its gang-like attacks on Whites by Non-Whites, it will be ignored and rationalized away. Likewise, don’t see any wargaming on deal with OWS types taking over part of a city or town (which is the more likely scenario).


4 posted on 08/22/2012 5:16:56 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Travis McGee

Busy morning, eh?


5 posted on 08/22/2012 5:17:50 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

The Democratts have been planning for war against Americans since they ran research on how much of the US military would be willing to fire on Americans (20% plus). Waco was part of the same trial balloon, with foreign military participation (UK airforce).

Long unbroken line of planning.


6 posted on 08/22/2012 5:22:51 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Travis McGee
It doesn't surprise me, Travis.

Many politicians, and top military, have seen in the nations citizens as much of an enemy as any foreign military.
Let's face it, the nations citizens have as many firearms as a lot of foreign military organizations.

The Gadsen flag is going to become more of a reality as time goes on.

7 posted on 08/22/2012 5:26:20 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Travis McGee

Small Wars Journal has no connection to the military and it’s authors are not currently active military.

That said, this guy Benson appears to be a real piece of work and I’m there are active military who think like him:

http://www.defendproclaimthefaith.org/blog/?p=2261


8 posted on 08/22/2012 5:28:09 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: Travis McGee
All the time I was reading this article, I was thinking, "seriously, the teaparty is NOT advocating armed violence!"

Getting to the last paragraph, I found that the author did indeed make that very clear, and he goes on to say something we all need to hear:

"we must reinforce and broadcast to the world that violence is not the answer .... just as Tea Partiers effectively quashed the allegations of racism, we must police our ranks to insure that no one countenances anything even remotely close to what the Alinsky-inspired left is goading us to do."

9 posted on 08/22/2012 5:28:20 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: Travis McGee

Why a second civil war instead of a second revolutionary war? I don’t see the parallels for a CW2.


10 posted on 08/22/2012 5:28:57 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

When a nation tears itself apart in war, it’s a civil war.

You can debate whether it’s also an insurrection, a rebellion, a restoration, a revolution or a counter revolution.

But it’s a civil war.


11 posted on 08/22/2012 5:33:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I would bet this weeks paycheck that there has been a LOT of requests to ISP’s across the country to locate certain internet posters.

Not exactly targeting Tea party just yet unless the agency finds a “stolen” cache of 500 pounds of ANFO at a Tea party gathering.

First they will do small surgical strikes upon internet posters at selective forums where the fishing is guaranteed to have a catch for them.

And then it will be dirty laundry time against the Tea Party, rumors will spread of nefarious acts and the MSM will get its waters chummed by DHS to get anti-sentiment built.

The second stage of course mandates a massive campaign to paint the Tea party as anti-American radicals, seditionists, persons of lesser mental capability. Of questionable mental capabilty and animal abusers, especially the ones that mistreat the soft cute defenseless kittens.


12 posted on 08/22/2012 5:34:50 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: Travis McGee

Calling it CW2 infers a connection to the first civil war. The revolutionary war was also a nation tearing itself apart so by your definition it was also a civil war. If one had the desire to make a connection between a past conflict with a theoretical future conflict I think it would be wise to connect it with the revolutionary war rather than the civil war.


14 posted on 08/22/2012 5:53:05 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Travis McGee
Our military planners are openly discussing how to kill "Tea Party extremists" who have taken over a small town in the USA.

I don't see any motivation here.

15 posted on 08/22/2012 6:01:26 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrats: Ticket of Dope and Chains.)
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To: Durus; Travis McGee
There may be a more "peaceful" way to address a possible CWII problem:

It's Time to Part Company

..which could work until the "progressive" areas run out of money and came demanding to be "bailed out"..

16 posted on 08/22/2012 6:07:53 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: Travis McGee

I don’t see armed conflict as part of America’s final reckoning before we fall as the World’s Superpower and re-organize. Rather, I see lengthy legal battles as a couple of southern states make moves to establish their own independence. Skirmishes may come about when they grant their people and businesses the “State” right to quit paying Federal taxes. The “State” will have to agree to defend it’s citizens from Federal enforcement and that’s where some skirmishes will break out.

The loss of the two states from the current political turmoil will upset the balance of voting power in the electorate and will cause further denegration of a civil society. As others consider sessesion, violence between citizens may break out. But the legal battles will divide and eventually become the unduing of our nation, not the killing in an all out civil war.

...And those are my thoughts on the worst case scenario.


17 posted on 08/22/2012 6:10:24 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Travis McGee

Will the House Armed Services Committee have the cajones to hold hearings on this?

Sadly I suspect not.


18 posted on 08/22/2012 6:24:56 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Travis McGee
IMHO the article is DHS-sponsored in an attempt to suppress Americans from rising up IF it gets politically or racially bad here.

In my opinion the US armed forces would not fight against other Americans. They would lay down their arms first! The military is sworn to first uphold the Constitution and second obey all LAWFUL orders.

Second, the US military does not have sufficient forces here in CONUS at this time to win against a fully armed citizen insurrection of all armed Americans. It would be horrible and bloody, but the Army is not large enough to suppress a determined American citizenry.And remember, many of us are trained veterans, too..... However, if the administration plans to use police and unions or UN Armed Forces, that could change the numbers significantly.

I just hope the Administration is not stupid enough to try that.

19 posted on 08/22/2012 6:26:54 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Hope and change has become meanness, lying, fraud, cover-ups, and vindictiveness.)
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To: Travis McGee
The military scenario appears in the July 25, 2012 issue of the respected Small Wars Journal...

Respected? By whom?

When TSHTF, against whom will we be defending ourselves? What preemptive strike would eliminate or reduce the danger?

20 posted on 08/22/2012 6:46:42 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: B.O. Plenty

I’m not willing to give up one square inch of American soil to socialists.


21 posted on 08/22/2012 6:55:58 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Hardraade

Being in Texas, I figured I knew most details about Waco. Now you can give some substantiation to your previously not heard “UK airforce participation” claim?

To me, Waco was just another klintoon/liberal attack by FBI that didn’t give a damn about the Constitution.


22 posted on 08/22/2012 6:56:10 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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23 posted on 08/22/2012 6:56:50 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Tenacious 1
There was a 'state vs. federal' battle a few decades ago in Louisiana. The state didn't want to force 3 high school girls to be forcibly bussed to an inner city school, but the federal government's forced bussing only for southern states plan stated no neighborhood schools. LA rolled out the state police, while the Feds brought the National Guard and tanks. The girls were bussed.

If it is one state versus the feds, we will lose. You need to recognize this attack when it comes, it may not look like what you expect. Be prepared to wage asymetrical warfare and win on another front. (Hint: Louisiana is where the concept of home schooling was born.)

24 posted on 08/22/2012 6:58:03 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Rapscallion

“In my opinion the US armed forces would not fight against other Americans. They would lay down their arms first! The military is sworn to first uphold the Constitution and second obey all LAWFUL orders.”

I agree with that, but if it should come to that I think UN troops would be called in. Countries who hate the US would jump at the chance to come here and kill Americans.


25 posted on 08/22/2012 7:03:04 AM PDT by ChowChowFace
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To: Travis McGee

Based on history - and common sense - I posit that small-government, freedom-loving, family-oriented organizations will never initiate violent rebellions against their own constitutional republics as long as those that serve in government have as their foundation the sovereignty of “We the people”.

“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”


26 posted on 08/22/2012 7:07:46 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Travis McGee
The Administration officially Supports King Shamir Shabazz who openly calls white people names on the streets of Philadelphia and says that they should get ready to storm nurseries to kill white babies.

VIDEO

Yet, they think that white people are the enemy.

27 posted on 08/22/2012 7:11:14 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: Tenacious 1

I see your scenario as what is likely to occur, if we are pushed into it by the likes of nobama.

Once it begins, many States they call Blue, will join in and eventually the few remaining with the Fed will be the broke, over unionized and liberal States that at some point will come begging to either USA2 or to EU (probably EU first because of the kinship of mind).


28 posted on 08/22/2012 7:11:50 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Eye of Unk
I would bet this weeks paycheck that there has been a LOT of requests to ISP’s across the country to locate certain internet posters.

Yeah, it's not hard to do. Even here, where you think you are safe.

Be advised FRiends, never post anything on the Internet that you do not want traced right to your front door and computer.

Comments posted here, or on FB or anywhere online are like a bullet fired - once you hit , it's like pulling a trigger and it cannot be recalled.

They know who you are, see:

↑ Your IP Address traces right to your computer!

29 posted on 08/22/2012 7:17:31 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: Hardraade

“Long unbroken line of planning.”

Going back to Ruby Ridge and George Herbert Walker Bush.

At the highest levels both parties have collaborated on this nascent police state for a generation now. We have had an unbroken string of globalist and statist presidents since 1989. We will have another one in 2013, no matter the election outcome.


30 posted on 08/22/2012 7:21:36 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Eye of Unk
I would bet this weeks paycheck that there has been a LOT of requests to ISP’s across the country to locate certain internet posters.

Not just here...
Ex-Marine Arrested and held for Facebook Posts - Not charged with a crime. Held in psychiatric hospital because the government did not like his posts.

31 posted on 08/22/2012 7:21:36 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: ChowChowFace

The UN or other countries who come here will have to relearn the lesson of Concord, as we patriotic Americans will not go peacefully, not unlike the movie Red Dawn.

The asymeterical battles will be the foreign troops being up against 100 million better armed than they with a much firmer will to win.

If any invasion, it will be on the liberal Fed States who will rollover.

My personal view is none of this will be made necessary as America quits bending over backwards giving the benefit of the doubt and retakes control from the liberal and RINO establishment, not unlike WW2 or the Cold War.


32 posted on 08/22/2012 7:25:32 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
It does not matter whether the Tea Partiers are advocating armed violence or not. The Leftists and their propganda arm, the main stream meia, will be trumpheting that they are 24 hours a day 7 days a week and enoughof the sheep will believe them.

If you need proof, go check how the politicial atmosphere was in Germany particularily from 1934 on. As the National Socialist Worker's Party, aided by Gerbbles, the propgand minister and others, made the Jews more and more scapegoats of all of Germany's problems.

As it stands now Conservatives, paricularily Christian Conservatives are being named as the cause of all wrongs. In time,all Whites and those who identify with them will be included.The attacks by the media are going to increase in volume, intensity ,and content until the desired results are achieved.

33 posted on 08/22/2012 7:29:11 AM PDT by sport
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To: Travis McGee

Travis, I have to ask, what’s it like seeing your cautionary fiction come to life? Must set your mind spinning at times.


34 posted on 08/22/2012 7:34:46 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: B.O. Plenty

A peceeful parting of the ways ain’t going to happen. The masters wil not willing let their slaves, whose earnings and work they depend to live high on the hog, depart. They have no intentions of letting their slaves go, they may reduce the number of said slaves, but those remaining will have their tasks doubled.


35 posted on 08/22/2012 7:35:19 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport

“A peaceful parting of the ways ain’t going to happen. The masters wil not willing let their slaves, whose earnings and work they depend to live high on the hog, depart. They have no intentions of letting their slaves go, they may reduce the number of said slaves, but those remaining will have their tasks doubled.”

Not unless sovereign bankruptcy kept most of the goons in barracks, as happened during the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the Politburo. More likely though, our breakup would resemble the chaos of Yugoslavia’s dissolution, on a continental scale.


36 posted on 08/22/2012 7:56:42 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Travis McGee

And again the Tea Party is violent but the window breaking, police car pooping, wall spraying, homeless shoving, tent raping, occupy isn’t mentioned or treated as peaceful.


37 posted on 08/22/2012 8:03:52 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Turbo Pig

Well, I’m not surprised, at least.


38 posted on 08/22/2012 8:06:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
"we must reinforce and broadcast to the world that violence is not the answer .... just as Tea Partiers effectively quashed the allegations of racism, we must police our ranks to insure that no one countenances anything even remotely close to what the Alinsky-inspired left is goading us to do."

There is a balance to be maintained, there.

It is not a question of whether segments of the Conservative population would defend, with any means necessary, their way of life and indeed, their lives and those of their loved ones.

It is a question of whether that segment would seek the violent overthrow of the legitimate Government.

The danger comes in where the assumption is made that those who would defend are actively seeking revolt, and while there may be a rare few who would revolt for minor causes, I think the general case is that the vast majority of people would reserve such options for a last resort.

The other danger, is that so much effort would be put forth to 'prove nonviolent aims', that that the option of revolt in extremis, becomes removed from the public psyche.

The credible power the masses hold over government is not at the ballot box, but the ability to forcibly, if necessary, revoke such consent as given there, should the situation warrant.

Government should have a healthy, rational, fear of its constituents, such is the first check to unbridled power.

When government irrationally pursues the means to forcibly remove any perceived source of that fear rather than control its own aims, ambitions, and usurpations, it is a sign that something is grievously wrong with the mindset of our servants in the public sector, military or civilian.

39 posted on 08/22/2012 8:20:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Travis McGee

I disagree.
The military mind will have its own set of ‘darned if I do, darned if I don’t’ set of compasses going off.
Should the economy be as it is now, the so-called grunt that would have to be called to duty, will have that old argument, nation or career, or job or no money. If it has come to that, those of us whom this grunt might have at the end of his/her barrel, might be unlucky.
There is also the fact that a lot of military members are members of international gangs, with their own mental spin on this situation, which I do not have the data to project what is in their collective hive-mentality brain.
Lastly, how many of the military grunts we may indeed be facing, have as their personal philosophies, those wondrous words spoken by Louis Farrakhan, the Black Panthers, or other great minds of the black separatist groups? Would those folks be acting ‘under orders’, or acting out their beliefs?

ANY military action against American civilians, could or would become the “Lexington/Concord spark”. We have a sitting President that enjoys acting in the manner of King George III. We have a media, that attempts to shout down anyone that says “the king has no clothes”. We have a nation of stoop-sitters, with their hand out, waitng on the benevolence of the king, and who swears their allegiance, and forfeits their freedom to him, for a loaf of bread, acarton of eggs, and a jar of milk (don’t forget the cellphone). All these ingredients wear on those Americans who know what this country was, before 2008, and what the wasted and spoiled potential is, due to this Fascist king.

I, for one, do NOT swear ANYTHING, to this sitting President, because he has not the mettle. As a military veteran, I call this man a metrosexual eunuch. His name deserves the same ‘reverence’ as a man named Haman.


40 posted on 08/22/2012 8:43:29 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Travis McGee

Given actual news events, rather than bigoted speculation, maybe they should be preparing to handle a big-city take-over by violent mobs of minorities.

Because small militias of minorities are already committing violent acts throughout our cities, pretty much on a daily basis, and getting more brazen about it all the time.


41 posted on 08/22/2012 8:44:06 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Flashmobbing, the new way to train the dead-soul yutes to come when called to be cattle, to act as cannon fodder. The brilliant stroke is that even if these programmed fools are shown how they are being set up —to provide the blood progressives need to stop the Republic from functioning— they’re too stupid by design to comprehend the meaning!


42 posted on 08/22/2012 8:54:15 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: X-spurt

UK Airforce participated with one or two special planes built for handling insurgencies/insurgents like the ones faced in Ireland. The planes had special rec ecuipment not seen on US planes at the time.

Together with the planes, the US also borrowed the personnel and pilots to fly them.

Anyway, I have hours of footage that I’m technically not supposed to have, going into painful detail of the whole thing, including the planes and the machinegunning of people trying to escape the flames. I’ll actually check with the source and see if I can get a green light to just put them up on our site.

Oh, and a good friend of mine (although she is a liberal), a religion professor from California, told me she knew Koresh. And that the official version was completely bogus.


43 posted on 08/22/2012 9:16:26 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Travis McGee
FYI...WHITE HOUSE INSIDER ISSUES WARNING – FALSE FLAG PLANNED FOR GOP CONVENTION?
44 posted on 08/22/2012 9:17:38 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: sportutegrl

Your Post #24 would be an example of one of several small “skirmishes” that I referred to.

The next Civil War, Revolution, etc. will not be an all out organized war (IMO). As soon as it started to look like war, I believe MOST or our soldiers and LEO would not kill citizens (armed or otherwise) to take geographical control of objectives (battle plans).

If soldiers were told to defend against “home grown insurgents,” they might defend themselves violently. But I cannot envision a scenario where a state, or the citizens thereof, in the midst of sessession pursuit would attack a target that needed National Guard defense. I believe the winning tactic would be to ignore and disregard the FED fiscally and regulatorily and defend your citizens from federal enforcement.

Again, this is only my opinion. And I do acknowldedge there would be some violence that broke out between the most well intended citizens and soldiers that were both only doing what they were ordered or believed in.

Once invasion and battle plans started being drawn up, the violent quelling of the insurrection would find the press and soldiers would have to decide if they are citizens first or soldiers first. Seeing how many of our soldiers today value freedom and individual liberty over a leftist socialist state, I think most would do the right thing.


45 posted on 08/22/2012 9:28:28 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Post #39 = Outstanding!

Nicely put. On occasion big words and legalese can be useful.

In short, the most patriotic Americans (mostly conservatives) won't be moved to violently overthrow a legally elected (legitimate) government of the United States. The Federal Government would have to first be delegitimized and unconstitutional (recognized by significant if not majority of citizens).

Certain events ordered by government could solidify the recognition. But they would have to be egregious and made public with grandiose propaganda (more akin to the Revolutionary War).

46 posted on 08/22/2012 9:42:27 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: ChowChowFace; All

Google can be your friend search The Bonus Army of 1932 & what happened to them when you state without doubt that American soldiers won’t shoot American civilians.


47 posted on 08/22/2012 9:48:15 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Hardraade
...the machinegunning of people trying to escape ...

That was fairly evident in "Waco: Rules of Engagement".

48 posted on 08/22/2012 9:48:19 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: null and void

Ping.


49 posted on 08/22/2012 9:51:06 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Psalm 144

Yeah, you know, Herbert Walker and Billy were boss and underboss in an early criminal organization focussing mostly on drugrunning and gambling. In which they used large parts of the CIA for their own ends.


50 posted on 08/22/2012 9:54:18 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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