Skip to comments.Romney/Ryan or Bust! If you don't vote Romney this Nov. then you will be casting a vote for Obama
Posted on 09/07/2012 6:30:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Truth is the new hate speech.Creeping Sharia
We [the people] own this country.Clint Eastwood
I feel like I ought to start out each of my articles anymore with a disclaimer, or caveat saying something along the lines of WARNING: The contents of this article are to be considered null and void in the event of a Reichstag Fire, false flag event, and/or an invasion by Russian Spetsnaz in collusion with Northcom,or words to that effect.
My intent is not to make light of such concerns, as God knows we have reason enough to be more than a bit edgy these dayswhat with the Patriot Act, NDAA, the torrent of Obama EOs (Executive Orders), various government agencies stockpiling millions of rounds of ammo, and other such things.
Personally, I am what you might call a cynical optimistI hope for the best, but plan for the worst. I keep myself open to the idea that the US can peacefully pull itself out of the colossal mess that it is currently mired inbut I have enough guns, ammo, freeze dried food and whatnot to open a small survivalist store.
Be that as it maythe main topic that I wish to address in this article is my decision to back the Romney/Ryan ticket, and the fallout from that. Contrary to what some of you may think, I have not rushed off and enlisted in the Dark Side. I am as opposed to the Big Bank/ Big Corporation/Big Government/Big War cabal as ever...
(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...
That must have been it, lol.
Your response indicates a very profound misunderstanding of the American political system. What you describe and what you intend to do on election day is a manifestation of the European system. Multiple factions are provided with representation in the legislative branch which serves to mollify the peasants and guarantees the balance of power in the hands of the elite who govern in their own best interests.
This is the system that the Democrats aspire to visit upon America. You will help them do this and they will be more than happy to give you a few seats in the Congress to make you think that your voice is being heard. Your voice may indeed be heard, but the power will be elsewhere and you will not like the results of the exercise of that power.
We have a two party system that has been proven over time to be superior to any system of government ever devised on this planet. You don’t like it, because it requires that the majority rally around a compromise candidate in order to deny power to the radical elite. Your political purity approach gave us Clinton twice and Obama once and may well give us Obama once again. This is not a liberal country, they can only win through the ignorance and stupidity of the ideological conservative purists.
The ball is in your court. Choose your next move wisely.
Bad news...Obamacare IS law. Nobody is going to repeal it. The political class have already taken the bribes. The new government workers are being hired. The businesses that are going to profit from it have paid their dues. No politician is going to repeal it. Even IF it were possible to get the repeal through the house and senate then Romney still wouldn't sign it.
It's a done deal. Game over. We lose.
If I lived in Florida I would hold my nose and vote Romney. Are you happy now? Please, take your personal insults elsewhere. Stick to the subject matter.
You can vote for whomever suits you best. I won't complain. But I will tell you, the GOP has lost me now for good. No more walking door-to-door voter precincts for me. No phone calls, no money, nothing.
If that doesn't suit anybody else, then too bad.
I'm not going to fall in line and be a good little Toby. They can kiss my grits.
During the general election debates for ‘12 POTUS, I will be very surprised, if Barack Obama doesn’t go after Mitt Romney, over and over again, on RomneyCare and its many similarities with ObamaCare. Any detailed differences between ObamaCare and RomneyCare will be ignored by many of the general public, because the differences will be too difficult for the majority of the general public to, fully, follow.-Barack Obama knows this, already!
I didn't know there was a negative vote on the ballot!
Ryan's got my vote!
I think...should obama, by some weird happenstance get a second term....I think it is time the GOP took the credit. They don’t provide decent candidates anymore..they continuously push these rinos and pro choice in sheeps clothing candidaes. I’m just about fed up...I’d change parties but I don’t know which one to go to. But you can bet I’m looking...this will probably be the last election I’m registered Republican.
Nope, It can be repealed with 51 votes.
RaisingCain has already been zotted.
If they gain that, what’s to stop them from making over this nation into Venezuela writ large? I don’t see anything.
I agree. And for all those who try to justify not voting for RR by “I’m voting down ticket”. That’s really stopped Mr Executive Order so far, hasn’t it? Wake up people.
You’re probably right.
The pain you feel today is the strength you'll have tomorrow.
Stampeding is too energetic for them. Usually they just get sarcastic.
In Wisconsin a politician that doesn’t hunt deer may as well run around with a big purple V on his chest.
Zero is a thousand times worse for the economy and defense.
You are dismissed as myopic socon who can’t think for himself, but gets his thinking from a book that knows nothing about political realities and some windbag guy in a pulpit who knows jack about fiscal matters.
BTW, I’m Catholic and pro-life, but that’s not the important issue at the moment.
Someone who hires a hitman is guilty of conspiracy to commit murder.
Abortion is responsible for over 50 million murders of our most vulnerable.
It takes a conspiracy of massive magnitude to accomplish a slaughter on this scale.
I submit that all those who vote for a pro choice candidate are guilty of conspiracy to commit murder in Gods criminal justice system.
I cannot cross that line without implicating myself.
I believe those who dismiss such concerns hold a very profound misunderstanding of the eternal ramifications of their endorsement which outweighs any short term worldly consequences.
Eternal verses temporary.
I fully understand our political system and the choice being out before me.
I cannot have that innocent blood on my hands even if the world burns.
To Hades with you, n00b DU troll.
Yes, when a liberal doesn’t vote for Obama, it helps Romney.
Really can’t fathom the mind of an Abr
Really can’t fathom the mind of an Abr
Okay, I guess you are not “going” to make your argument without trying to be procative. I’m sure you are capable, you just choose to be provocative.
Here are a few reasons I will choose to vote for Romney in no particular order.
obamacare - Romney has vowed to give waivers to every state that requests it. I’m sure my state will. This law is beyond frightening.
our military - I believe ROmney will be more committed to our warriors, to ensuring their ROE fit with their mission to minimize their casualties.
economy - don’t need to explain this one
The physical country may be around...
But how many lost jobs, homes, savings, etc. are you willing to sacrifice on your altar of purism?
There’s a human cost to your insane decision, too.
Obama the capitalism-hating, liberty-hating, America-hating Marxist must be destroyed!!
We all know you’re voting for 0bama, DUmmie.
The Democrats just added a plank to their platform adding a demand for tax funded abortion on demand up to birth
You action is a sign of omission. By refusing to act you are committing a great sin. Rather then limiting abortion, your inaction it helping it to spread.
“I cannot cross that line without implicating myself.”
It always gets down to that, doesn’t it?
You can shake all the etch-a-sketches all day long, and write and erase anything you want to on them, and there will still be as many ‘medical waste’ drums of the unborn in Massachusetts and Illinois as there were at the beginning.
The tophet on the left, or the tophet on the left?
Neither, and may both receive the reward they deserve.
54,000,000 methodical terminations under the authority and protection of the Washington government. That, and people have the temerity to expect blessings and prosperity?
Deliver us from evil!
54 million murdered is on those who vote pro choice and them only.
Short-sighted single-issue voters will be the death of this republic.
I’ll blame you and your ilk if Zero is re-elected.
And I have a LONG memory.
It is true that if there are 3 million conservatives like him who don’t vote for Romney Obama will win. But if 3 million conservatives find they can’t in good conscience vote for Romney I blame the people who shoved Romney down our throats. And I blame Romney for not being able to convince them.
You failed to assume that I hadn’t read the post you linked and falsely accused me of lying. Buzz off. Don’t talk to me.
If you can’t vote for Romney/Ryan at this point in the game, I say it’s nothing but pride holding you back.
1) Without a Christian revival, the USA is un-Christian.
2) Unforgiveness by “conservatives” who should be Christian, caused them to sit at home in 2008 and 2012.
3) THEREFORE, 8 years of Obama = defense cuts, abortion = invasion
You are simply wrong. If Obama wins the blame fall entirely on the people who picked the candidate and made every single decision in the campaign. And by not putting the blame where it belongs you are setting up another democrat win in 2016.
Same if Hispanics all decided to not vote for either candidate. Romney may lose a few votes, but Obama would lose the election.
To abortion I would add 2nd amendment, gay rights and Romney care.
And thinking eternally is as opposite of short sighted as possible.
And I have your stiff drink right here.
You try to make this personal. It is purely a matter of numbers. And if the GOPe can’t sell their candidate to enough conservations, then there is something fundamentally wrong with the GOPe and they need to be kicked out on their butts.
I happen to think Romney is going to win. All I’m arguing is that if he loses, put the blame where it belongs - i.e the people that control the party 100%.
Between now and the election, explain to me how can we tell the difference between a good, anonymous conservative Freeper refusing to vote for Romney on principle, and a covert leftist operative posting on this site to discourage votes against the Kenyan?
My point was aimed at the thread’s logical absurdity that not voting for politician A is the same as voting a politician B. That is inane, and is a lie. It is a lackwit argument fit only for political hacks and uncritical servitors.
You provide reasons why you are voting Romney. Your bases in order are:
1) What he says;
2) what you believe he will do as CinC;
3) what you ‘don’t need to explain’ but extrapolate about a general prosperity, probably from Romney’s personal circumstances.
To that there is his actual record:
1) He will say anything expedient and has expressly distanced himself from conservatives. Even his wife says he can say anything and make himself believe it is true. He still defends the model he signed into law as good legislation. He will move the garnish on ACA, that is all.
2) Neither he nor any in his family have ever served since they attempted permanent emigration to Mexico to escape US jurisdiction. He might be more inclined to ‘preserve assets’ and expend them more economically - might. But committed to our military? Lets hear how. Certainly he can’t demonstrate how.
3) Your best argument, but I expect the middle class to be as hard pressed by latifundia style corparatist policy as it is by neo-Leninist collectivism. According to reports Massachusetts lagged economically under his stewardship. That may well have to do with the state itself and its cultural makeup, but that is the state he chose, and he boasts of his achievements there.
You believe Romney. I do not. You are relying on his words. I am looking at his record, which as a governor was to the left of Bill Clinton.
There is one thing he could do to secure my vote, but he won’t.
That's crap and we're not buying it
That scare-tactic bullying attempt doesn't fly with principled Conservatives who fear God first and put our faith and principles ahead of bowing down yet again to the Ruling Class out of fear of the other guy.
Every time that crap is spouted, it just solidifies and steels our resolve further to stand against it, even if we stand alone.
Because one day we have to stand before the Governor of the Universe, and give account.
Voting for Romney, is sin to us. And we will not do it. Despite the screams and hollers and threats from those more scared of Obama than of God's judgment. More afraid of losing their money and stuff under Obama, than the accounting for where they stood on foundational principles.
Some of us remember what Romney did to Palin and every Conservative running in the primaries. We recall what Romney's Ruling Class oligarchs did on Tuesday at the RNC.
Principled Conservatives will not yield to the threats or name calling. God comes first before everything. Principles matter, at least to God. Call us 'purists' or whatever you like. England ran such similar people from their midst at one time too. Funny, because those folks are the ones who gave us the foundations our liberty was built on.
So feel free to lick the hands of your Ruling Class masters of whom you grovel before out of fear of the guy that chose this candidate you pledge yourselves and your vote to. We did this same thing before in supporting the Ruling Class chosen candidate in 2008 and have repented of it. Never again.
See post 143
So how do we tell the difference between the honest Freepers and the covert Obama operatives hoping their posts will reach swing states?
Really can’t fathom the mind of an Abr
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