Skip to comments.Romney/Ryan or Bust! If you don't vote Romney this Nov. then you will be casting a vote for Obama
Posted on 09/07/2012 6:30:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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My comment is that my indifference to the farcical Romney/Obama battle remains about the same.
Oh no! Another SEAL badmouthing Barry. No more invitations to the SEAL barbecues for this guy. The Pentagon has his number now! They’ll be yanking his trident. Hrumpf! Hrumpf!
My only hope is that others here will wake up and see that we have to unite and support R/R ticket for the sake of America.
We can hold their feet to the fire and and live to fight another day.
Holding my nose, but voting for Romney/Ryan 2012.
Than not voting for Obama must help Romney!
Plantation logic for the self enslaved.
It was a lie during the primaries, and it is a lie now. It is a lie mathematically; it is a lie intellectually and it is a lie morally.
That is what party serfs and crawlers do though.
Like their patrons.
I am not voting Romney. I am voting against Obama... and I will crawl over glass. Otherwise Obamacare will become law... and you might as well kiss America goodbye.
Careful now. Logic will disturb the ruminant herd and their cuds will sour. They might even stampede.
Equally, if you don’t vote Obama this November then you will be casting a vote for Romney.
Kind of silly how it works that way, isn’t it?
YUP...I am really disappointed that by not voting for Obama then I am casting a vote for Romney. But them are the breaks.
In brief, I agree about Obama, but not about Romney.
I can vote for the lesser evil until a certain line is crossed. Regretably, Romney crosses that line. He has a proven record of gay marriage support and taxpayer funded abortion support, under the guise of socialist healthcare.
I don’t vote for ANYONE who intends to kill babies. Sorry, but that includes both Obama and Romney.
Yes, Obama is worse, but not much worse. It’s on the record.
Of course. Do you enjoy the deep dish or thin-crust Uno pizza better? How often do you guys get that delivered into your office? Still get free lattes and soda or is that on you now? What’s the newest slogan?
We have a country to save, Obama and Bidden MUST BE VOTED OUT.
Does write in count.
Good article and he is right on all counts.
Obama has gotta go..... nothing else is acceptable.
The state health care law signed by Romney didnt say anything about abortion. Instead, an independent government body, the Commonwealth Connector, later decided that subsidized insurance plans would include coverage for abortion. And the Commonwealth Connector may have had little choice but to do so. In 1981, the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled that women eligible for Medicaid had a state constitutional right to payments for medically necessary abortions. In 1997, the state high court again ruled that Massachusetts must cover medically necessary abortions if it covers other medically necessary care, such as childbirth
I’m voting for Romney.
Not apologizing and voting for Romney.
Not ducking and covering, and voting for Romney.
I’m voting. For Romney.
If I’m wrong and it turns out I shouldn’t have, I’ll climb down and vote him out, but I think Romney has got this one right.
Same here. We're probably still kissing America goodbye but it will be a slower death under RINOs, maybe.
No, silliness is making light of the most important decision of 2012, if not the 21st Century. If Mr. Obama wins in November, please make a personal note to never ping me on any subject ever again. I don’t want to converse with someone who thinks enslaving my country is a joke or nothing to worry about.
“I am not voting Romney. I am voting against Obama... and I will crawl over glass. Otherwise Obamacare will become law... and you might as well kiss America goodbye.”
I’ve got bad news for you. Romney’s surrogates over the past year have declared it’s impossible to repeal ObamaCare, but they sure would like to tweak it and keep all the “good” ideas that are in it.
Romney likes ObamaCare. He’s just bad that it’s cutting 750 billion from medicare. In MA he did not have to do that, see. No no no, he just shifted 50 percent of medical costs to the feds. Maybe he can fix ObamaCare with his good, conservative capitalist sense.
>>My comment is that my indifference to the farcical Romney/Obama battle remains about the same.<<
RaisingCain - Glitter bomb posting since
Since Apr 15, 2012
Therefore, your prideful refusal to improve our current status is absurd.
Romney has the support of the National Right to Life Committee. He is hardly “pro abortion”.
You will make it possible for more abortions to happen.
Think of this like a war:
Which hill will you attack first? The enemy is firing from two different positions. You must make a choice. No matter what you decide, people will die.
Which decision brings victory faster?
Which decision defends life, in the long run?
Goodridge v. Dept. of Public Health, 798 N.E.2d 941 (Mass. 2003), was a landmark state appellate court case dealing with same-sex marriage in Massachusetts. The November 18, 2003, decision was the first by a U.S. state’s highest court to find that same-sex couples had the right to marry.
On April 11, 2001, Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders (GLAD) sued the Massachusetts Department of Health in Superior Court on behalf of seven same-sex couples, all residents of Massachusetts, who had been denied marriage licenses in March and April 2001. All the plaintiffs had been in long-term relationships with their partners and had several children. The Department’s responsibilities included setting policies under which city and town clerks issue marriage licenses. The Superior Court judge ruled in favor of the Department on May 7, 2002, and the plaintiffs appealed directly to the Supreme Judicial Court.
The court gave the State Legislature 180 days to “take such action as it may deem appropriate” before issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
or Abs when it comes to Paul Ryan.
Isn’t this a Romney H8r thread?
Who said you’re allowed to make sense?
But even in local elections make sure you Vote Conservative-Tea Party!
Who would the Gipper vote for?
My wife and I are voting Romney/Ryan. This is no election to sit this out or vote 3rd party and hope for the best. That’s the dumbest thing anyone can do. It’s Romney/Ryan or this country goes down the tubes.
Beyond that, a glance at the history of Romneycare in Massachusetts shows that Romneys instincts and initiatives were for free-market reforms. An 85 percent Democratic legislature thwarted his best efforts, and a Democratic successor as governor twisted the laws trajectory dramatically.
Before Romneys time, Massachusetts had enacted a number of laws that made its health-care system needlessly expensive. All policies offered in the state were required to cover expensive treatments like substance-abuse counseling and infertility. In 1996, the state passed a law requiring guaranteed issue and community rating meaning people could wait until they got sick to purchase health insurance. Naturally, rates skyrocketed. In addition, a 1986 federal law required hospital emergency rooms to treat all patients, regardless of ability to pay.
Romneys idea was to permit Massachusetts insurers to sell catastrophic plans. As Avik Roy explained in Forbes, Shorn of the costly mandates and restrictions originating in earlier state laws, these plans, called Commonwealth Care Basic, could cost much less. Romney also proposed merging the non-group and small-group markets, so as to give individuals access to the more cost-effective plans available to small businesses. Romneys plan would also have involved a degree of cost sharing, so that those receiving subsidies would have an incentive to minimize their consumption.
Romney agreed to the mandate believing that Massachusetts citizens would get the opportunity to purchase inexpensive, catastrophic plans. But the legislature, together with Romneys successor as governor, Deval Patrick, changed the law to require insurers to offer three tiers of coverage all of them far beyond catastrophic care. Perhaps Romney ought to have foreseen what future legislatures and governors would do but thats a far cry from the accusation that Romneycare was indistinguishable from Obamacare.
Romneys proposed reforms included fraud-prevention measures for Medicaid, requiring the income of both parents to be considered in childrens Medicaid eligibility, medical-malpractice tort reform, and giving individuals the same treatment as small businesses in the purchase of health plans. He envisioned a system of increased competition and choice.
The bill that passed the legislature contained a number of features Romney couldnt countenance. He opposed the mandate, preferring to permit individuals to post a $10,000 bond in lieu of insurance. The legislature overrode him. He vetoed the employer mandate, coverage for illegal aliens, the creation of a new bureaucracy to be called the Public Health Council, a provision limiting improvements to Medicaid, and another provision expanding Medicaid coverage to include dental care. His vetoes were overridden.
The health-reform law Romney introduced as opposed to the one that was implemented by his successor stressed competition, reduced regulation, and expanded choice for the consumer.
It was a mistake for Romney to sign the bill. As Avik Roy put it, The individual mandate was a loaded gun that Romney handed to his opponents, who used it to force individuals to buy comprehensive insurance they didnt need. But Romneys bona fides as a free-market advocate and critic of Obamacare are not undermined by Romneycare. He can rightly claim that he foresaw, and attempted to prevent, the consequences of heavy-handed government control of the health-care market.
Mona Charen is a nationally syndicated columnist. © 2012 Creators Syndicate, Inc.
Hey, Noob. Trolling for the DUmp? Trying to stir up division here on FR? I think you are. And I really think you’re voting for Obama.
“Plantation logic for the self enslaved.”
Spot on. The GOP owns us in exactly the same way the DNC owns the black voter. Fear keeps us in line and securely on the plantation. They can ignore us, throw us a bone or two in the platform (which they promptly say they’ll ignore), and we’ll crawl over broken glass, hot coals, and a minefield to vote for whatever liberal the GOP picks.
While we live in fear, we’ll remain powerless and praying for some great conservative hero to save us - next election.
Only having Obama as President makes it acceptable to vote for Romney. Almost as if it was planned.
Than not voting for Obama must help Romney!
I'll do my part, by not voting for Obama. This sort of tough math question has some people stumped, but I've got it figured out well enough. Besides, I'm like deep-in-the hurtgen-forest surrounded by Dem voting Zombies, in a winner-take-all state.
For the first time in my life I won't be voting for either of the two main political party's candidates at the top of the ticket. I flat out refuse.
The GOP may have lost me forever now. They fail, and I'm pissed. They've not much represented me anyway, other than being a lesser or different evil from the rapidly increasing darkness of the Democrat Party.
I have begun to SERIOUSLY HATE THEM ALL!
“Only having Obama as President makes it acceptable to vote for Romney. Almost as if it was planned.”
Yep. Back to the slow boil. Too many frogs were getting ready to jump. Back to the lethal complacency of the last twenty three years. The warlocks’ cauldron simmers on. Bye bye frogs.
“Hey, Noob. Trolling for the DUmp? Trying to stir up division here on FR? I think you are. And I really think youre voting for Obama.”
I really think you prove that there is no superiority of the Republican over your average Democrat. They’re both slaves of their respective parties, engage in personal attacks and group think and generally just go along with whatever party leadership tells them to go along with. ABO! ABO! ABO! ABO! (and in 4 years, if the country is still around) ABH! ABH! ABH! (Anybody but Hillary!)
I’m certainly not happy about it.
But regretably the GOPe has pushed this fiasco on us.
A vote for either one of them involves being complicit in abortion.
It’s like asking who would you give a gun to, the man who you know plans to murder 5 people, or the man who you know he plans to murder 2 people?
Certainly two murders is better than five, but there really is no excuse to give that gun to either one of them.
As I said, I certainly do not feel happy about having been put into this position.
Give it a rest.
We have two candidates.
Obama. And Romney.
Make your choice. Then once the next President is elected, start working with that.
It is (far) too late to change the choice we have in front of us. Do what you’re supposed to, and then move further after the election.
Vote for Romney in November.
“Vote for Romney in November.”
Hell no I won’t go! Hell no I won’t go! That’s my answer to the ABO chant.
“I really think you prove that there is no superiority of the Republican over your average Democrat.”
I guess you didn’t watch the Godless heathens at the Democrat Convention.
RaisingCain - Glitter bomb posting since
Since Apr 15, 2012
Well I am voting for Ryan. He is a good man. Romney is a god fearing man and a dedicated father, he ran a business and it flourished. Obama has done nothing but divide and destroy the American people and country.
That is exactly why I am not moved by the fear-mongering insistence that voting for anyone but Romney is actually voting for Obama.
I don’t succumb or subscribe to such plantation logic.
Besides, anyone who doesn’t understand that our vote doesn’t matter, and the outcome is as scripted as the RNC and DNC Convention ‘votes’ were by the Ruling Class oligarchs - is still stuck in Cognitive Dissonance Land.
Cook County is gone national and somehow everyone would rather pretend it has not.
The fearful are all welcome to drag Romney across the ‘finish line’ and pat themselves on the back for ‘saving us’, but the root cause of where we find ourselves is not even addressed and Conservatism will become a politically irrelevant ideology under Romney.
I guess most here already forgot about Tuesday at the RNC .
Well I didn’t. And I won’t forget what Romney and the Ruling Class did.
They can pound sand. Romney nor Obama get my vote.
Wrong. Do the math.
Take 100 voters.
49 support one candidate
51 don't support him
49 vote for the candidate
3 of the 51 decide they won't vote with the opposition.
The candidate wins 49 to 48.
How is the above a mathematical lie?
That's the weakest, most mindless argument I can imagine. Just because I want Obama out, and the only person with the money, organization and strength happens to be the GOP candidate, that proves that I'm a GOP slave? That's dumb. It means he's the only logical choice. Voting 3rd party, staying home, will only help insure an Obama win. If that's what you want (and I believe it is), fine for you. But lousy for America.
It's obvious what's in store should Obama win. And I cannot, will not sit this one out. I love this country too damn much. You obviously don't. It's your overblown, pretentious, ego you love more than anything else.
So go ahead. Be the socialist troll I believe you are. I frankly don't give a damn about you or your insipid logic. You mean nothing to me. But America does. And my mind and my vote will not be altered by some troll. Never, ever, post to me again.
. The rats are on board with this destroyer. I will vote conservative republican across the board, local, state and the presidency. We need to stay awake from this day forward. rust never sleeps
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