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Little Pavel Flies South for the Winter
Illinois Review ^ | Sept 11, 2012 A.D. | John F. Di Leo

Posted on 09/11/2012 2:51:42 PM PDT by jfd1776

Our young campaign volunteer learns how some homeowners steal votes in Florida…

Pavel Syerov, Jr was in the dining room, playing rummy with his little brother, Paco (his real name was Peter, but everyone called him Paco), when their dad called their attention to something on the internet.

“Have you heard about Wendy Rosen?” he asked his politically-interested son. “It’s all over the news…”

Pavel said he hadn’t.

“Well, she was a Democrat candidate for Congress, and she just dropped out of the race, less than two months before the election. “ His dad was quickly scanning the news for more about her, finding little. “Jan Schakowsky just did an event for her, too. Heh, heh… serves her right. Wasted a day on somebody who dropped out within a week. Cool.”

Pavel read the article, and decided it was time to pay a visit to his old friends at 51st Ward Party Headquarters. He checked his wallet so he could pick up some snacks on the way… and then he made sure he had some antacids in his pocket, just in case.

Continue reading at http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2012/09/little-pavel-flies-south-for-the-winter.html

(Excerpt) Read more at illinoisreview.typepad.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: votefraud; wendyrosen
The announcement that Wendy Rosen, corrupt Democrat candidate for Maryland's 1st congressional district, was dropping out of the race for having been caught in blatant vote fraud, inspired a new installment of my semi-fictional series on vote fraud, The Tales of Little Pavel...
1 posted on 09/11/2012 2:51:48 PM PDT by jfd1776
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To: jfd1776

I wonder if little Pavel excerpts his stuff on Free Republic to get him some blog hits.

Wouldn’t that suck? He would be a scumbag for doing that.

What do you think?


2 posted on 09/11/2012 2:55:51 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: humblegunner

Good afternoon.

I post my entire articles to Free Republic when they don’t include embedded links, but when they do, I just excerpt so that people will read the version that does include them.

I’ve been told there’s a way to embed links on Free Republic, but I’ve tried and failed. I’m not very tech savvy.

As for the reason I post on Free Republic... I hope it’s for the same reason we all do: because we are movement conservatives who want to spread the word about issues relevant to us all, for the good of the country.

I believe that most people don’t realize how much vote fraud there is in America, so I’ve come up with this semi-fictional storyline approach to spread the word, particularly about some of the more obscure approaches out there, in the hope that greater awareness will lead to more of an effort by the GOP to fight it.

And by the way, humblegunner... I wouldn’t dream of secondguessing the reason that you or any other conservative posts on Free Republic. I assume it’s because we’re all patriots who are trying to serve the movement and the country in our own way. I certainly wouldn’t assume some malicious purpose.

We need to be united in the effort to take our country back from the left. Let’s not snipe at each other over idiotic little turf wars.

Spread the truth, end the fraud, keep our eyes on the General Election in November.


3 posted on 09/11/2012 3:10:23 PM PDT by jfd1776
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To: jfd1776
I just excerpt so that people will read the version that does include them.

And, as an added bonus, provide you with blog hits.

spread the word about issues relevant to us all, for the good of the country.

If that is truly your goal, Free Republic gets about 172,000 more page views than your blog.
So why send people to your blog?

I wouldn’t dream of secondguessing the reason that you or any other conservative posts on Free Republic.

I'm sure you wouldn't, since that might draw attention to the fact that you are profiting from free advertising here.

I certainly wouldn’t assume some malicious purpose.

How many hits have you gained from excerpting here? How much did you bank from those hits?

Let’s not snipe at each other over idiotic little turf wars.

Let's not be scummy blogpimps directing traffic to our sites in order to profit from the donations of real FReepers.

Do you like apples?

4 posted on 09/11/2012 3:20:51 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: jfd1776

This is why “snowbirds” are ruining the southern vote.

You New Yorkers need to stay up there with your liberalism and obnoxious pushy attitudes the rest of us hate. Lousy check-collecting whiners.

FUNY’ers


5 posted on 09/11/2012 3:36:36 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I need a good stiff drink. How 'bout you?)
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To: jfd1776; humblegunner

Ignore him, jfd1776...

Our friend humblegunner, (and a few of his jackal pals), is notorious for viciously attacking anyone who dares links from their blogs.

He seems to think he’s the self-appointed chief of the blog-pimp police....and he’s just a petty little tyrant.

Think HOA president........


6 posted on 09/11/2012 3:43:38 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I need a good stiff drink. How 'bout you?)
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To: jfd1776

Wendy has been fundraising for most of the year.

As a former exhibitor in her wholesale craft trade shows, I began getting requests for money back last winter until I unsubscribed from the emails.

Just wanted to correct your narrative that she “dropped out after a week.”


7 posted on 09/11/2012 3:53:56 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Well, at least I’m not trying to direct traffic away from FR to read my amateur writing.

Like blogpimps do. So they can profit by using FR as free advertising.

At least I’m not doing that, huh?


8 posted on 09/11/2012 4:01:50 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: humblegunner

You have a problem with capitalism?

What are you, some kind of wealth-hating commie?

Give it a rest, bub. No one but you and your little clique of baying hounds really cares what you think.


9 posted on 09/11/2012 4:10:12 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I need a good stiff drink. How 'bout you?)
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To: jfd1776; All

Thank you for posting this informative series on freerepublic. It is most appreciative. It is conten such as yours that makes freerepublic one of the most informative sites on the internet.

You are doing a public service, sir. If we ever meet, remind me to buy you a beverage of your choice.


10 posted on 09/11/2012 4:14:30 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; All

conten should be content.


11 posted on 09/11/2012 4:15:56 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Emperor Palpatine
You have a problem with capitalism?

No, Mr. Emperor sir.
It's theft I dislike. As in the theft blogpimps engage in when they USE Free Republic as an advertising medium for their lame-assed blogs.

What are you, some kind of wealth-hating commie?

I'm a theft-hater. Aren't you?

Give it a rest, bub.

Because YOU say so? Nope.

If you actually gave it any thought, you would see that you are advocating theft.

I know, Emperors don't DO thought..

12 posted on 09/11/2012 4:18:23 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: marktwain
Thank you for posting this informative series

It's not posted. It's excerpted. He's using us as advertising for his blog.

13 posted on 09/11/2012 4:21:04 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: jfd1776; humblegunner
I post my entire articles to Free Republic when they don’t include embedded links, but when they do, I just excerpt so that people will read the version that does include them.

I’ve been told there’s a way to embed links on Free Republic, but I’ve tried and failed. I’m not very tech savvy.

Here it is, links included:

Little Pavel Flies South for the Winter

By John F. Di Leo -

Our young campaign volunteer learns how some homeowners steal votes in Florida…

Pavel Syerov, Jr was in the dining room, playing rummy with his little brother, Paco (his real name was Peter, but everyone called him Paco), when their dad called their attention to something on the internet.

“Have you heard about Wendy Rosen?” he asked his politically-interested son.  “It’s all over the news…”

Pavel said he hadn’t.

“Well, she was a Democrat candidate for Congress, and she just dropped out of the race, less than two months before the election. “   His dad was quickly scanning the news for more about her, finding little.  “Jan Schakowsky just did an event for her, too.  Heh, heh… serves her right.  Wasted a day on somebody who dropped out within a week.  Cool.”

Pavel read the article, and decided it was time to pay a visit to his old friends at 51st Ward Party Headquarters.  He checked his wallet so he could pick up some snacks on the way… and then he made sure he had some antacids in his pocket, just in case.

Within half an hour, he was at the familiar haunt, bearing bags of tortilla chips and a jar of salsa for the volunteers (this time of year, there were always volunteers working on a mailing or lit drop), and of course a single bag of honey wheat pretzel braids for his mentor.

“Paully!” shouted Pockets, the old Deputy Committeeman as Pavel entered the room.  “Welcome back!  Been awhile!”

“Yes indeed, Pockets.  Been away at college.  Back for just a couple days.”   Normally, Pavel didn’t like to lie, but when talking to Pockets and the rest of the denizens of the 51st Ward, he felt there were different standards in place.  He was here to learn, and after all, when in Rome…

“So are ya here for awhile, Paully?” asked the old man.  “Pull up a seat here;  Mrs. Smithers was just on her way home, so you’ve got a station all ready for ya!”

Pavel felt guilty about helping them as much as he used to, now that he understood the party better, but he figured the education he was getting was much greater than the minimal help he was providing, so it was worthwhile.

They sat together with the ladies until the mailing was finished – a couple of them had never had chips and salsa before; they all liked it! – and then cleaned up the collating table together as the ladies departed, just like old times.

“So ya got time to stick around, Paully?” asked Pockets, gesturing toward his corner of the office. 

“Sure, Pockets!  Have a seat, and I’ll grab us a couple drinks!”   Pavel headed to the refrigerator in the back as Pockets shuffled toward his desk.   Pavel returned with a longneck for Pockets and a diet soda for himself, then revealed his bag of Pockets’ favorite snack.

“Honey wheat!  Thank ya kindly, son!”  The old man dove into the bowl of pretzels as Pavel chuckled and took a seat, letting a Wisconsin realtor magazine “accidentally” fall from his pocket onto the floor.  He slowly bent to pick it up, after he was sure that Pockets had seen what it was.  Pavel didn’t often resort to such hints, but he couldn’t think of any better way to bring up the news of the day “accidentally.”

“Whaddaya got there, Paully?”

“Oh, I’ve been helping my aunt with some research.  I have relatives who sell vacation property in Wisconsin.  It’s been rough lately, but they’re trying… the second home market still exists, you know, even though lots of people are in trouble on their first homes.”

Pockets took a swig of his beer and chuckled.  “Well, if your folks ever buy one a dem second homes, ya just tell us about it, and we’ll see to it ya can make da most of it.”  With the ladies gone for the evening, Pockets had discarded his uncomfortable front of neatness; he was now stuffing pretzels in his mouth and spraying crumbs as he spoke, as usual.  Pavel moved his chair just a bit further back.

Pavel was glad he’d taken the bait.  Now he could begin.  “What do you mean, Pockets?  Make the most of it, how?”

Pockets answered, “haven’t I ever told ya about the snowbird vote in Florida?  Oh, you’ll like this, Paully.”

Pockets proceeded to explain in detail.  “Here’s da ting.  Most states have a law about whether ya  can vote in their state or not.  Usually it’s a matter of having a permanent address, and spending a certain amount of time there, over da course of a year.  So for example, if you’re in one state for nine months and in another for three, ya should vote in the one you’re in for nine, usually.  But some states have different rules because of college students, and  military, and… well, let’s just say they aren’t enforced all that well.”

“Oh yes, Pockets, I knew that,” answered the young man.  “Sometimes people choose to vote in the place where they shouldn’t because their votes will be more effective in one place than the other, right?  Like in a swing state instead of a clearly blue or red state?”

“Nah, that’s not what I mean, Paully,” said Pockets, taking a long drink of beer.  “When ya own two houses, ya pay taxes in both states, right?  So it’s not fair to only vote in one.  Lots of our people vote in both states, wherever dey got homes.”

“In the same election, Pockets?   Not the party voting an unvoted registration as a favor, but the same person intentionally voting under his own name in two different states?  Isn’t that dangerous?”

Pockets nearly spit out the pretzel braid he’d just munched.  “Ha!   Dangerous?  It’s never enforced!  Ya run more of a chance bein’ arrested for jaywalking.”

“So, does it happen a lot, Pockets?”

Pockets sat back a moment in thought.  “Well, we don’t know, for sure.  But it certainly can.  Lots of people with winter homes, timeshares, condos and such in Florida, for example, are registered in both places.  Both Chicago and Miami. Both New York and Miami.  Both Boston and Miami.   So they can show up in person ta vote in one, and cast an absentee ballot to vote in da other.  Easy.”

Pavel muttered “Maryland too, I guess,” almost under his breath, but Pockets heard. 

“Oh yeah, so ya heard about Wendy Rosen, huh?”   Pockets shook his head.  “Yeah, dat was unfortunate.”   He set down his empty bottle, and Pavel took the hint.   He got up to get themselves fresh drinks, and Pockets continued.

“Yeah, so dis Wendy Rosen lives in Maryland and Florida, and she’s voted in both, at least a coupla times.  Today’s newspaper confirmed both 2006 and 2008, and she didn’t deny it.   Da embarrassin’ think is dat she’s our nominee for Congress in Maryland’s 1st District.  Now she’s dropped outa da race, which pretty much kills our ability to claim dat it was a Republican lie.  It’s an admission uh guilt, sure enough.  Darn it.  Awful embarrassing.  Shouldn’t a happened.  Party was awful clumsy on dat one…”

Pockets’ pretzels and dry mouth had started to render his words almost unintelligible.  Pavel delivered his longneck just in time.

“Thank ya kindly, Paully!” said the old man, taking a swig.  “Yup, she shoulda known better.  Ya vote other people’s names multiple times, not your own, ya know?  Not if ya plan ta be a candidate yerself one day.  Luckily, it’s not getting much press, so dat’s something.”

Pavel shook his head.  “The story’s in the Washington Post today, and Yahoo News featured it on their main page.  I’m afraid it’s all over the internet, Pockets.”

“Ah, dat’s not so bad, Paully,” answered Pockets.  “Who reads news on the computer anyway….”  Pockets turned to his computer and chuckled.

Pavel decided to press on.  “Besides our primary nominee, Democrat Wendy Rosen of Maryland, do you know of other examples?”

“Well…” Pockets started to answer, “yes and no.”  To Pavel’s quizzical expression, he continued to explain.  “I don’t know of any dat have been stupid enough to admit to it, besides her, ya understand… but it’s certainly likely dat lotsa people register in both places specifically for da purpose of votin’ twice.”  At this point, the old man gestured with a pretzel braid as if he was using it like a stylus to pop out a chad.  The old gentleman was always entertaining.

“Ya remember when all da newspapers did their own recounts of Florida after 2000 to see if Bush or Gore really did win?”  Pavel nodded, though he only knew it from later reading; he was pretty  young in 2000.  “Well, the papers said dat they found something like 46,000 snowbirds  double registered in New York and the Miami-area counties alone. “

Pavel nearly dropped his soda.  “46,000?  I had no idea that many were double voting!”

“I didn’t say they were, Paully,”  corrected the Deputy Committeman.  “I said they were double registered.  I dunno how many actually double voted.  I remember a news story – duh New York Daily News, I think – that talked about how they studied and compared everything, and they were sure that of the 46,000 double registered folks they found, around a thousand definitely voted twice.  Maybe more.  They were just sure of about a thousand of ‘em.  Since da 2000 election was decided by just a few hundred votes, even those numbers can make a difference, ya know.”

“Wow.” Pavel shook his head.  “I wonder if it happens anywhere else, or if it’s just an east coast thing.”

Pockets chuckled and took a gulp of his beer, then answered “Ah, it happens everywhere, Paully, as ya might expect.   Our people always manage to dismiss da concern when they’re interviewed, so they win the reporter over into thinking it’s not a big deal.”

Picking up a pretzel and pointing to Indiana on the wall map, Pockets said “I remember an article in some local Indiana paper in 2008 looking at duh same thing.  They found about 2000 double registered people between little Allen County, Indiana and Florida.  But when the election folks were interviewed, they  just repeated the line about how most folks are honest, and nobody would do that, and there’s never proof that it happens, so it’s no big deal… and the reporters always carry forward that kind of spin for us, ya know?  Awfully good of ‘em.  We oughta send ‘em a box of chocolates, eh Paully?” 

Pavel faked a chuckle, though he was getting sick to his stomach.  Even in Indiana, this double voting problem still exists?  Even after the Real ID efforts that Indiana put through?  Wow.

“If the Republicans wanted to stop this… how would they do it, Pockets?”

Pockets chuckled again.  “It ain’t easy, Paully.  They’ve passed Real ID rules, in some states, darn it, but that only stops one kind of fraud, the kind where you claim to be somebody you’re not.  But to control this kinda thing, you have to either have a national database or start enforcing the threat of jail and fines for the voter himself.  Republicans have a fortunate hostility to the whole idea of a national ID or national database, so their own party ties their hands.  And nobody wants to throw more people in jail when the jails are overcrowded as it is.”

“So what you’re saying, Pockets,” Pavel carefully formed the words… “is that Democrats with two homes have been given carte blanche to double vote if they want to, in state after state, whenever they have multiple homes, without even needing the party to help out by casting the ballots for them…?”

“Well, yeah, Paully, but remember, Republicans have been given duh same opportunity.  Dey can do it too,” he mumbled, through a mouthful of pretzels.

“But Republicans never do, right?” Pavel said.  “Republicans never really do commit vote fraud, so it’s all us, right?”

Pockets shook his head.  “Nah, remember, there are a few corrupt Republicans here and there.  Not a lot of ‘em, but there are always a few who’ll steal a ballot box in Rhode Island or somethin’, and then we can refer to them for equal time.  Even though it’s probably a hundred to one, Democrats over Republicans, we just hafta cite a Republican fraudster and the reporters treat the story with moral equivalence between da two parties.  Can’t beat that, Paully, ya know!”

Pavel was beginning to feel that familiar feeling in the pit of his stomach.  It was time to take an antacid and go.  He said his goodbyes to Pockets, having learned something, whatever the risk to his stomach lining.


Later that evening, as Pavel talked with his family before turning in for the night, he said “I just don’t get it.  When it’s so obvious that there’s all this vote fraud, why don’t the Republicans make it their biggest issue?    Thousands here, thousands there… maybe tens of thousands, even more, among this one group, the snowbirds, alone.  That’s just one of many forms of fraud we’ve learned about.  How much vote fraud is there in this country, all told?”

His parents just shook their heads.  “The Republicans have tried some steps,” his mom said.  “They call for Real ID, they call for purging of the voting rolls by checking against death notices and moving notices… but they sure aren’t doing everything needed, and they don’t even try to tackle  a lot of the methods.”

“Wouldn’t it be interesting,” Pavel said before going up to bed, “if we could find out how much vote fraud there really is in this country, after adding up all their tactics?  When you look at the fake registrations, and the double voting of the college students and snowbirds, and the felons voting, and the busloads in the New Orleans method and the on-site non-residents in the Racine County method …  it’s just unimaginable.  It could well be that if elections were really honest, the Democrats wouldn’t have really won a single national election in decades.  The margin of fraud might be the deciding factor a lot more than we think it is.”

“All we can is concentrate on one issue at a time, son,” his dad counseled.  “Alert people, call our legislators and demand that they crack down, despite their natural spinelessness on the matter… and get the word out.  You could write letters to the editor, if you like.  Or a blog about it.”

Pavel Syerov, Jr. chuckled at the thought.  “If I ever wrote a letter to the editor telling what I know about vote fraud, then Pockets and The Boss would never let me back into headquarters.”

His little brother Paco had an answer ready.  “You don’t have to write under your own name, you know.  Take a page from their playbook and lie; you could blog under some unpronounceable Italian name, and they’d never suspect you at all.”

Copyright 2012 John F. Di Leo

John F. Di Leo is a Chicago-based Customs broker and international trade compliance lecturer.  A former Milwaukee County Republican Party Chairman, he has now been a recovering politician for over fifteen years.  The characters of Pavel and his family, Pockets and the other denizens of the 51st Ward Party HQ, are all fictional, and any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, is entirely coincidental, though the crimes against our Republic that they discuss are all, sadly, all too real.

Permission is hereby granted to forward freely, provided it is uncut and the byline and IR URL are included.  Follow me on Facebook or LinkedIn, or on Twitter at @johnfdileo.

Basically, what you do is, select the blog post, then select View Selection Source, and copy the HTML over here. The only other thing, is you must make any relative links absolute (see here for a simple way to do that).

14 posted on 09/11/2012 4:45:14 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: jfd1776
Well said.

Good story and very relevant to the ongoing mission of conservatives in America (and the world).

I look forward to Pavels continuing adventures.
15 posted on 09/11/2012 4:46:37 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: cynwoody
Basically, what you do is, select the blog post, then select View Selection Source, and copy the HTML over here. The only other thing, is you must make any relative links absolute (see here for a simple way to do that).

Thank you for that delightfully simple explanation !

16 posted on 09/11/2012 4:51:43 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

You have guns down there. Shoot the bastard Libs as soon as they cross the border and make themselves known. We let Libs cross over from NYC unscathed and they took our gun rights away and thoroughly effed up our state. Don’t let this happen to you.


17 posted on 09/11/2012 4:55:51 PM PDT by Postman (........................................................I'm thinking! I'm thinking!!)
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To: jfd1776; humblegunner

Please excuse humblegummer

Having hg on fr is like having a nagging ex-wife who calls you out every time you send the kids back home with dirty laundry.

It get’s extremely tiresome but he has special privileges to criticize any and all just because he has a keyboard.

Bloggers would be wise just to ignore him because he has no power and tries to intimidate them.


18 posted on 09/11/2012 5:28:12 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Damned if I do, Damned if I don't. Damn it, I will!)
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To: Randy Larsen
and tries to intimidate them.

Pointing out facts can indeed be intimidating to some folks.

Bloggers would be wise just to ignore him

The little bitches would be wise to stop pimping and post the full text.

It get’s extremely tiresome but he has special privileges

Yeah, it's magic. With properly placed apostrophes.

So, Normy.. are there any other aspects of life where you advocate theft and defend thieves?

19 posted on 09/11/2012 5:46:02 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: cynwoody

Good story. Thanks. Oh boy...


20 posted on 09/11/2012 5:47:00 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: humblegunner

Everytime you post one of your bandwidth wasting rants is also theft of property YOU don’t own.

Got it Hummergummer?


21 posted on 09/11/2012 5:51:50 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Damned if I do, Damned if I don't. Damn it, I will!)
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To: Randy Larsen

Nope. Whole different deal.

I’m not directing Free Republic’s traffic to my blog to get hits.

I don’t expect you to see the difference, but it would likely
serve you well to shut the hell up about things you obviously
don’t understand at all.

At a minimum you would appear a bit less ignorant.


22 posted on 09/11/2012 6:03:16 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: marktwain

Or is this what they sometimes call incontinent content?


23 posted on 09/11/2012 6:06:25 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: jfd1776

There are Communist/MSM sleepers here who would rather that you sent traffic to MSM than to a blog of a bona fide thinking conservative. Be Well!


24 posted on 09/11/2012 6:11:21 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Revolting cat!
There are Communist/MSM sleepers here

There are scummy bloggers here who would use Free Republic to steal hits for second-hand recycled MSM material.

If you have something to say, say it directly. Don't be so afraid.

25 posted on 09/11/2012 6:17:14 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: humblegunner

You have no objections to directing traffic to MSM sites, even the most left wing ones, do you? Why is that?

You have bumped this thread you despise more times than the thread author, why is that?

A humble man would perhaps FReepmail the author behind the scenes, you sir, while accusing others of selfishly directing traffic to their blogs, selfishly bring attention to yourself.

Good day to you.

BUMP to the thread.


26 posted on 09/11/2012 6:22:17 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Well, I’m glad to see you at least found the courage to address me directly.

Next time, you need not go about muttering behind someone’s back like a weasel.


27 posted on 09/11/2012 6:36:48 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: humblegunner

There’s another band wasting bump!

LOL!

Obviously...YOU don’t get it, Brainiac!

Shutting up just ain’t my style.


28 posted on 09/11/2012 7:57:51 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Damned if I do, Damned if I don't. Damn it, I will!)
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To: humblegunner; All
It's not posted. It's excerpted. He's using us as advertising for his blog.

Allright, as you choose. Thank you jfd1776 for posting this excerpted article. I hope that it brings great attention to your blog, as it gives us much better content than many "mainstream" sources that are constantly excerpted.

29 posted on 09/11/2012 8:18:36 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: jfd1776

Thanks for posting, ignore the ill mannered schmuck harassing you, lot’s of us are tired of his self important act.


30 posted on 09/11/2012 9:15:10 PM PDT by skepsel ("Whole lotta things I ain't never done, ain't never had too much fun" C. Cody)
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To: skepsel

Good evening, all!

Many thanks for the support, Freepers!

Cheers,
JFD


31 posted on 09/12/2012 12:33:51 AM PDT by jfd1776
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To: humblegunner
If you actually gave it any thought, you would see that you are advocating theft

Theft? THEFT??

So you even understand what that means?

To take your illogical and uninformed assertion to it's conclusion, it must be theft for someone to operate a hot dog cart next to a large office building. They must be "stealing" from the cafeteria. It must be theft to put up a sign next to a highway for your business. Sounds a lot like Obama: "You didn't build that"

It's one thing when the blog is simply a re-post of something in the news. Another entirely when it's original content.

Please explain to me exactly what has been "stolen" from FR when a Freeper clicks on a link to a blog post. Bandwidth? Electrons? How does that change if the article is posted in it's entirety?

32 posted on 09/12/2012 8:23:04 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper
Please explain to me exactly what has been "stolen" from FR

Advertising. Folks pay to keep this site running, not to provide free advertising for bloggers.

33 posted on 09/12/2012 8:30:48 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: jfd1776; humblegunner

Just disregard Grumblegummer, his jealousy knows no bounds.


34 posted on 09/12/2012 8:31:01 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: humblegunner
Advertising. Folks pay to keep this site running, not to provide free advertising for bloggers.

Well, FR doesn't sell ads so there is nothing to be "stolen". I guess the only logical conclusion would be for the blogger to sue FR which would then mean that ONLY excerpts would be allowed.

Please explain in your infinite wisdom how excerpting a blog is different than excerpting a commercial site. How one is theft and the other, is not. Then try to square that with the FR position on excerpts vs. full content posts. There is much more validity in the argument that FR is "stealing" when we post content (or links) from commercial sites than there is that linking to a blog on FR is stealing from FR. Without that content (or links) there is no FR, and no donations coming on to support it.

35 posted on 09/12/2012 10:07:39 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper; jfd1776; humblegunner
"Please explain in your infinite wisdom how excerpting a blog is different than excerpting a commercial site. How one is theft and the other, is not. Then try to square that with the FR position on excerpts vs. full content posts."

If I may, The first and most obvious difference is that with most commercial sites, the posting members on FR have identified some material of interest which they wish to share with their fellow FReepers. In the case of the blogger, for the most part, they are offering opinion pieces they have generated and are seeking an audience.

For many years (as you should know, given your sign up date) FR operated under the umbrella protection of "Fair Use" and all material was posted here in full. The excerpt feature was only installed to accommodate those news sources that decided to take an adversarial position regarding FreeRepublic. For a blogger to come here and seek to purposely drive traffic to his site, rather than fully share his content on FR is not the act of a FRiend.

The consensus opinion of FR and its manasgement can be found in Jim Robinson's statement on this subject (which includes guidelines for posting blogs) which can be found here.

If a blogger truly seeks exposure for his work, does it not make more sense to post all of that work here, where the traffic already is? In asking for this, we are not taking a position against the blogger, but rather complimenting him by asking that he share more of his content with the FR crowd.

The other reason for excerpting (which I am ~NOT~ saying is the case here) is that bloggers are excerpting material because they have plagiarized it. Yes, that happens here on a regular basis. A lot of that material ends up getting pulled before it is widely seen, but I can assure you, it does happen with unfortunate regularity.

"Without that content (or links) there is no FR, and no donations coming on to support it."

I do hope you're not seriously suggesting that FR could not exist without blogs.
36 posted on 09/12/2012 12:14:36 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

If someone owns material and can share it in full on FR, but chooses instead to “tease” it with one-liners, that isn’t “sharing,” it’s spamming.

Nuff said.


37 posted on 09/12/2012 12:46:52 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Romney/Ryan 2012)
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To: Larry Lucido; shibumi
All of that is well and good. My point was that hunblegunner was calling it THEFT from FR and by saying that was calling the poster a thief.

Excerpting a blog may be wrong and not cool, and even against the rules here at FR, but that is entirely different than theft.

If posting a link to a blog is theft, then so is posting a link to a commercial site. Simple as that. Without links and content from other sites (commercial, blogs, et. al), FR does not exist as we rely very heavily on content from others.

I don't have a blog. If I did, and I wanted to share something with Freepers, I myself would post the article in it's entirety. I don't have an issue if others only post excerpts and I'm not nanny enough to police the internet. If an article intrigues me I read it. If it's an excerpt I make a decision as to whether I want to click the link to read the rest. I'm an adult and that's what adults do. If the poster is breaking the rules, the moderators can go ahead and remove the post and even ban the poster if they are habitual rule breakers. Calling them a thief is uncalled for in a civilized society.

38 posted on 09/13/2012 8:05:49 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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