Skip to comments.Why The Obama Administration Lied About Benghazi
Posted on 10/10/2012 11:16:24 AM PDT by CaroleL
Today the House Oversight Committee is holding a hearing on diplomatic security; specifically the lack of security that facilitated the September 11 murders of US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, Libya. Most often these investigations center on the question 'What did a government official know and when did they know it?' but in this case we already have those answers.
Hours before the congressional hearing began, the State Department briefed reporters on the facts of the case saying it never determined that the deadly attack on the US consulate stemmed from protests over an anti-Islam YouTube video as administration officials claimed for over a week. So the question which needs to be answered is not what did Obama & Company know and when did they know it but rather, why did they blatantly and repeatedly lie to the American people?
The possible answers:
A. A terrorist attack on US soil that resulted in the death of four Americans including an ambassador does not substantiate the administration's assertion that President Obama's foreign policy has been a success. The fact that four years of apologies and appeasements did not result in the new era of mutual respect Mr. Obama promised; but rather in more hate and terror will not assist the president in winning a second term.
B. The administration wanted to cover-up the fact that it denied and/or ignored requests for additional security in Libya. In the weeks after the Benghazi attack, multiple requests from US officials in Libya have been uncovered which show concern over the lack of security there. Ambassador Stevens himself repeatedly asked the Obama administration for more security in Benghazi but his requests were denied. US Security Officer Eric Nordstrom asked his State Department superiors for more security agents months before the Benghazi attack but got no response.
C. Blaming the ridiculous YouTube video for the attack in Benghazi gave the president another opportunity to apologize for American values rather than defend them. The day after the murders, Mr. Obama condemned the violence but also condemned criticism of Islam. This attempt to morally equate murder with the exercise of free speech was such an obvious political disaster that the president had to quickly release a statement asserting that the First Amendment "is one of the hallmarks of our Constitution that I'm sworn to uphold, and so we are always going to uphold the rights for individuals to speak their mind."
D. They thought they could get away with it. With the mainstream media tucked comfortably in Mr. Obama's pocket for years, there was good reason for the administration to believe that if they repeatedly lied about what happened in Benghazi, the lie would be reported as the undisputed truth. In the most blatant case, US Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice appeared on numerous television programs stating the attack was "a spontaneous - not a premeditated - response to what had transpired in Cairo" and that what transpired in Cairo "was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video." The dutiful media aired what we now know to be brazen lies without challenge.
As the State Department begins to reveal the truth and the Congressional investigation moves forward, it looks like the answer is most likely E. All of the above.
Heads should roll. Hillary first. Then her boss.
Obama lied about the freedom fighters in Libya and the removal of a tyrant via an invasion he led from behind.
In reality, the freedom fighters were nothing but Muslim Brotherhood savages.
Obama took in what he told everyone here was a “baby kitten” needing to be rescued. What he freed upon Libya and the world was actually a desert panther.
He killed its enemies, supplied it with the tools to make war, and it turned on him. Always does.
Just saw a press conference by Carney, the date of which I’m not sure, but it was no later than sept 18th, and I think what Carney said was that Amb Stevens shouldve known that in his service to his country, his life was on the line just like the military. Totally inappropriate considering what was happening at the time! These punks are sewer RATS!!!
Wait for the debate on foreign policy. Anyone who thought The Disaster was bad in the first one ain’t seen anything yet.
The Collapse continues.
We are talking landslide even bigger than 2010.
It would require honor or at least the ability to feel shame for these people to accept any personal consequences for their misdeeds. This Regime has neither - so nothing will happen.
... the Obama administration of deliberately attempting to stage a hostage-taking in Benghazi as part of a manufactured October Surprise that Obama intended to make himself look great on the foreign stage in the lead up to the election. The plan if you were paying attention was set in motion at the Democrats convention in Charlotte in early September when repeated mentions of Obama as a foreign policy president were made. This was timed to lead up to September 11th when deliberately lowered security at the Benghazi consulate (and OTHER consulates and embassies in the Mideast) was supposed to encourage Muslims to take Americans hostage like they did in 1979. Only, Obamas plan was to negotiate their quick released by trading the Blind Sheik from the 1993 World Trade Center bombings for any Americans taken hostage on 9/11/2012.
The plan was to make Obama look like a badass and a to have him revel in this through October and into the November election. In fact, the hostages were probably planned for release not long before the Foreign Policy Debate (the last of the three presidential debates this year) in Boca Raton, Florida. This was supposed to show Obama standing up to Muslims, negotiating peace, and proving to the world what an effective and strong leader he was.
it blew up in his face and the administration has been in overdrive trying to cover this stuff up ever since.
As bad as the Benghazi Desert Debacle is for Obama, et al - it may be even worse for innocent air travelers all over the world as it was just told to congressional investigators that between 30 and 40 thousand shoulder fired AA missiles are currently unaccounted for in Libya. When pressed for more details, one of the witnesses stated that they (the missiles) are probably in the hands of al Qaeda.
This is going to be an absolute disaster for the Obama regime.
Perhaps you are unaware that the Senate is controlled by Democrats.
At the UN, Obama said that "the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Someone should make a commercial showing him uttering those words. The only way to stop people from slandering the prophet of Islam is to do away with the First Amendment...but that is part of his agenda anyway.
This man (I use that term loosely) is a disgusting sociopathic TRAITOR! He’s sick sick sick.
We don’t need those UN words at this point, it will be considered an old story by conspiracy theorists. There is so much scandal right now that Obutitsnotmyfault will never recover.
Besides hes aware that his voters don’t care that he’s a Muslim. And those of us that do care aren’t gonna vote for him in a million years anyway,
I think the fact stevens was a homosexual put the cross hairs on his back with the mooselimbs/
What the hell was the obammy administration thinking sending a fag to represent us in a moose limb country??
Be like sending Andrew Dice to a NAGs convention.
Smarmy little puke that carney is.
He deserves a serious beat down.
Not that I’d ever advocate that, I just would cheer if it happened.
atc23~ “... it was just told to congressional investigators that between 30 and 40 thousand shoulder fired AA missiles are currently unaccounted for in Libya. When pressed for more details, one of the witnesses stated that they (the missiles) are probably in the hands of al Qaeda. “
Another International “ Fast and Furious “ DEBACLE !
Another international incident , are there more ?
That’s what this adminsitration is ~ arming the criminals and calling it democracy : “ THis is what democracy looks like ..”
That is probably the reason the other 3 victims of the Benghazi attack were in Libya , to recover lost missles and armlament .
And who in the State Dept. would have known their purpose , had history with the Muslim Brotherhood ,would have helped to arm the Muslim Brotherhood, and known about of lack of security in Benghazi ?
Who ... ? Indeed !
How many more dead needed before the media get the message that they have been used ?
.. and yet they come back for more ?
Stockholm syndrome ?
I will always believe that the protests in Cairo and the ME was a coordinated plan between the Muslim Brotherhood and the Obama administration to attack the 1st amendment here at home. In otherwards. If Americans would just shut up, these folks in the ME will be peaceful and there will be no attacks. It was an attempt to restrict free speech and please the Brotherhood.
But something happened. The terror attack in Libya. This stupid O admin didn’t think that could happen. They knew it was a terror attack that was not related to the video. But they were in it too deep to get out.
Remember Hillary’s first response was “How dare they? They do this after we helped liberate them?
What they started over there was totally out of control. and they did not prepare for and did not want to admit terrorism didn’t die with Osama.
Gawd, please vote out these traitors, liars and scum.
wonder how much of what we’ve been told by the o admin over the last 4 years has been lies....
I’m voting that all of it has been lies.
dforest~ “ Remember Hillarys first response was How dare they? They do this after we helped liberate them? “
This is what happens when the State Dept. is run by amatuers !
When this adminsitration becomes involved in an overthrow of a government , someone surely has to know that some other power will try to usurp control , and plan accordingly.
The State Dept. lied , and people died
and now we have left 30,000 - 40,000 shoulder fired missles in the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaida .
And meanwhile the State Dept. stalled on releaseing correct information , .. when they alledgedly knew better ?
Nixon lied , and nobody died (botched Watergate burglary attempt) and he was impeached .
In Benghazi , and American ambassador along with 3 others from the State Dept died . The State Dept. lied to the American people and to the world , made an apollogy tour and commercial to the world , and there is no fallout ?
UN ambassador Rice repeated the mantra that she was ordered to do ; that decision wasn’t made by her alone !
Have we become that hardened to death and lies ?
Or ,... do we just accept the B.S. ?
Perhaps you are unaware that Articles of Impeachment originate in the House of Representatives, currently controlled by the GOP.
uncitizen~ “ wonder how much of what weve been told by the o admin over the last 4 years has been lies....”
It’s all part of the “CHICAGO method “ of politics and thuggery.
A sage once said : “ Trust ,..but verify “
Personally , I don’t trust much of what I have heard in the last 4 years from this adminsitration , .. as they have a secret “agenda” .
DuncanWaring ~ :” Perhaps you are unaware that Articles of Impeachment originate in the House of Representatives, currently controlled by the GOP. “
Yes , but you need some spine behind that Boehner !
Someone should ask Carney if that includes Propaganda Ministers and mouthpieces like himself?
Nixon was NOT impeached. There have bee oly 2 impeachmentsin our Presidential history —Andrew Johnson (after the Civil War) and William Jefferson Clinton in 1998. Neither was removed from office because the Senate couldn’t agree.
They were threatening to impeach Nixon, and the Republicans told him that they could not protect him. He resigned, instead.
More 0baman BS.
By international accord, the host country is supposed to guarantee the security of diplomatic personnel/property.
Ambassadors and Embassy staff are supposed to be inviolate.
To clarify, those words in italics are J Carneys not mine. Careful there FRiend.
That’s why I called them “0baman BS”.
Here's my theory:
There is an Executive Order that is almost ready for release. That EO gives the President the authority to shut off the internet in the time of a national crisis, for reasons of security. There was an attempt earlier this year, by Joe Lieberman, to get this passed thru Congress, but it didn't pass Congress. This Executive Order, by itself, is pretty radical. Obama needed an event. A reason to put this radical EO into place.
Thus, Libya. On 9/11.
The Libyan embassy was purposely left in a state of poor security. The curious September 10 tweet that apologized for the YouTube video was meant to create demonstrations. The demonstrations were supposed to start BEFORE the AlQeida attack on the embassy. However the AlQeida attack occured without demonstrations. AQ was tipped off where the ambassador's safe house was. But there were no demonstrations.
Had this gone as planned, Obama would have had a seemingly valid reason to give himself the authority to shut off the internet. Just in time for the elections.
But it didn't go as planned. So Plan B was implemented. Seeing no reason why he couldn't continue to blame the attack on the video, with an excuse of "I didn't have the right Intelligence" as cover, Obama sought to incite violence elsewhere. So the administration continued to use the YouTube video as an excuse, hoping to incite sufficient violence at another Islamic country's embassy. He did this for a week. But the demonstrations at other embassies never rose to the level of violence that was necessary for Obama to envoke the new EO.
Tin Foil hat time? If I told you Obama was purposely giving guns to Mexican drug lords so that he'd have a reason to attack the Second Ammendment, would you think I'm crazy? Why wouldn't he be capable of something that would attack the First Ammendment?
1st Ammendment attack.
I agree, but with a different twist.
See my post #29
There was a lot of “butt covering” going on in the hearing. The two on the right were covering for obama and Hillary.
The two on the left nailed them both.
Sandy Adams, R-Florida, tore the state department lackeys to pieces. Adams for AG!
Here is a reason.
Ya beat me to it! Not surprising that the MSM is silent on the incompetence of our current Secretary of State. With a U.S. Ambassador and three others dead, they should be screaming for her removal.........
Perhaps I DO KNOW the Senate is controlled by the lead RAT Harry Reid. Harry cannot stop the House from introducing Articles of Impeachment for all the HIGH CRIMES AND MISDOMEANORS this clown has committed.
You will have to get your gratuitous playacting elsewhere.
The Disaster will be gone by the end of January which is as soon as an impeachment trial could be gotten to in the Senate anyway.
I would like to see him drawn and quartered on national tv but that ain’t going to happen either.
O really? What a shock. Of course that has nothing to do with my point but thanks for playing.
Your arrogance is superceded only by your ignorance.
That should have been “exceeded”, not “superceded”.
Either one works for you.
Presuming I don’t know EXACTLY how impeachment works is rather unwarranted. Most intelligent people don’t jump blindly into an argument. What is your excuse?
I don’t have to presume anything; in your own Post 10 in this thread you demonstrate that you don’t know how impeachment works.
Obviously the TRIAL is where the rubber meets the road. An impeachment means little or NOTHING. It is the TRIAL which matters. Since the TRIAL is in the Senate the fact that the RATs control the place of the TRIAL it is assured that an impeachment of The Disaster would not end in a guilty verdict in the TRIAL.
Is that clear enough for you or should I detail more important facts about the TRIAL?
Or do you also assume incorrectly that there are actually Democrat Senators with integrity?
Congratulations on finally doing the research to learn how it actually works.
Welcome to the Land of the Informed.
OK so far so good Obama is the savior of the Middle East. We won't point out all the American Soldiers that keep dying (We being the media) but when you have your own Ministry of Truth to morph the narrative for you, you don't worry about the "little" things.
So then comes 9-11-2012 and bang-o out Embassies are attacked. In fact in the following days our embassies are attacked all over the globe. (Funny how you hardly seen any live footage of the events though isn't it. Imagine if this had been the Bush admin. There would have been news crews live at every scene with in-depth interviews of those poor people who were being oppressed by the EVIL BUSH REGIME!!! But since it was the Obama admin you got the "Meh" coverage of the event.
When its revealed the Ambassador is killed the Obama admin and the Ministry of Truth go into overtime trying to nudge the narrative onto the "Youtube Killed the Ambassador" song and dance (Sung to the tune of Video Killed the Radio Star)
This was working fine until a few disgruntled Ministry of State denizens realized that soon the music would stop and someone was gonna be short a chair. See the State Department knows the skinny. They know there was "Real Time" intel of the event in Libya (They were in touch with the Consulate by phone while the attack was in progress) and there was no mob protesting. BUT they have been instructed to say so and stick to the narrative.
But everyone in the State Dept realizes that eventually the story is going to get out so then bits of truth leak out here and there. Finally the damn breaks when disgruntled Security guys reveal that not only was there no "help by friendly Libyans to aide the Marines to defend the compound." (Obama claimed such in one of his statements) There weren't any Marines either. In fact we find out eventually that two security forces were removed from Libya in August and the Ambassador repeatedly requested more Security due to increased attacks in the months prior to the attack that killed him.
So then what happens? Hillary has a conference call (that FNC wasn't invited to somehow) And basically she is calling the "Youtube Killed the Ambassador" story a bunch of Barbara Streisand.
So now we know how this story is gonna end. Axelrod has the Bus all warmed up and Obama and the Media are marching Hillary towards the curb. BUT it dawns on Obama that he has a Problem.
Like I said, See, Obama has a problem. There are people in the media who like Hillary and think she is running in 2016. If she gets chucked under the bus for getting an Ambassador killed then its game over ala Teddy "the Swimmer" Kennedy as far as Presidential aspirations go. Further we all know "Hil" ain't going quietly and Bill is gonna be front and center riding the ramp-up the Hillary lovers in the media will attempt.
And that is the problem. If he throws Hillary under the bus before November 6th he will suck all the air out of his campaign AND give Romney a huge opening to skewer him for mishandling the situation. However Hillary knows this and now she has fired the first shot over the bow of the SS Barry Hussein with the conference call.
Obama has a problem and her name is Hillary and she plays hardball. Someone is going down for the Ambassador dying. Eventually it will be Hillary but she will not go alone AND she knows that if she is going to take him down for sure it must happen BEFORE Nov. 6th
Bottom line. Get the popcorn folks and break out the beers. This is going to be political theater at its finest.
Hillary vs Barry.
And it ain't gonna be pretty!
That, and State Department employees all of a sudden see a "Black Swan" - being an ambassador isn't just white wine and brie in exotic foreign capitals with exotic foreigners speaking exotic languages; it can actually get you killed.
I watched the hearing. Something was missing. No Hill on the grill on the Hill.
Roast Lamb with Kennedy sauce is not much of a luau.
You’re an idiot.
You’ve bored me enough.
How could you be bored since you make up whatever you want.
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