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Biden Admits Obama is Arming Muslim Brotherhood to Take Over Syria
frontpagemag.com/the-point ^ | October 12, 2012 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 10/12/2012 7:49:04 AM PDT by expat1000

This is ridiculous and it should be an incredibly damning statement. It’s shocking to me that this has not been picked up.

VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN: Let — let — let me — you don’t go through the U.N. We are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training, is getting to those forces that we believe, the Turks believe, the Jordanians believe, the Saudis believe are the free forces inside of Syria.

What Biden said in his debate with Ryan is that Saudi Arabia and Turkey, both Islamist countries, and Jordan which is a pawn, determine which Syrian rebels get “other aid”, presumably weapons, and the training to use them.

That Obama is arming and training, directly or indirectly, the Syrian rebels, would be an important revelation in and of itself. Biden’s dismissal of the UN, after years of Democratic whining about Bush’s unilateralism, should also excite comment, but most significantly Biden admits that our view of who should get them derives from the view of Turkey’s Islamist government and Saudi Arabia’s even more Islamist regime. Saudi Arabia is as bad as Pakistan and Turkey is being run by an Islamist party that is backing the Muslim Brotherhood to take over Syria. Both consider Hamas a legitimate group, and yet Obama has decided to make his plan for regime change in Syria subservient to what the Saudi and Turkish lobbies tell him to do.

This is near confirmation that Obama is arming and training the Muslim Brotherhood to take over Syria.

In probably the worst choice of words imaginable, Biden talks of, “working hand in glove with the Turks, with the Jordanians, with the Saudis and with all the people in the region attempting to identify the people who deserve the help so that when Assad goes and he will go, there will be a legitimate government that follows on, not an al-Qaida-sponsored government that follows on.”

This isn’t just backing rebel fighters, this is fairly open regime change. Al Qaeda can do quite a bit of damage, but they can’t take over Syria. Even a buffoon like Biden knows that. Syria isn’t Mali or Afghanistan. But the Muslim Brotherhood can take over Syria. And when the Muslim Brotherhood takes over a country, like the Taliban they provide a safe haven for Islamic terrorist groups.

Biden said a lot of stupid things during the debate, but this may be the worst of them all. And the worst part is that it’s all true.


TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; armsbuildup; muslimworld; shadowwars; syria; threatmatrix

1 posted on 10/12/2012 7:49:07 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Yet, all the libeal double talk about “making sure the rebels are “not” militants...


2 posted on 10/12/2012 7:52:16 AM PDT by Milagros (Y)
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To: expat1000

Why would any of those countries support “free” forces in Syria? What a crock of bs.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 7:55:43 AM PDT by culpeper (I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny... TJ)
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To: expat1000
Once I heard that laughing lying jackass say that Syria five times bigger than Libya, I knew nothing else he said on the subject had any credibility.
4 posted on 10/12/2012 7:56:57 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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5 posted on 10/12/2012 8:02:34 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: expat1000

That Obama is arming and training, directly or indirectly, the Syrian rebels, would be an important revelation in and of itself.

I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!!!! This situation in Syria seemed to get the same spin as fast and furious. I am beginning to think that we trained and supplied the terrorists who ended up attacking the embassy. I hope we dig deep on this one. We don’t need any more dead Americans becoming “collaateral damage” for this administration. I sincerely hope I am wrong.


6 posted on 10/12/2012 8:16:17 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: expat1000

This is exactly what obama wants in Syria just like that is what he wanted in Egypt and Libya.


7 posted on 10/12/2012 8:17:44 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: expat1000

Michelle Bachman was right.

Here is another video...

“Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrates US Government”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HshoZv_ngi4


8 posted on 10/12/2012 8:20:02 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: marstegreg

If we arm “free Syria” jihadis, just wait a few years

western weapons in the hands of these maniacs will be used to assassinate government figures in Turkey and Jordan and launch new terror into Lebanon and Israel


9 posted on 10/12/2012 8:31:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: expat1000

Incredible. Joe. The MB would prefer to cut your throat then debate with you.. and you seem to think that is a good thing. Oh wait.


10 posted on 10/12/2012 8:35:17 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: huldah1776

“The Taliban is inside the building.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2943037/posts


11 posted on 10/12/2012 8:41:54 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: expat1000

0bama armed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt (the whole danged country) and Libya (rebels) who repaid the favor with their kindnesses to Ambassador Stevens.

What could possibly go wrong backing the Muslim Brotherhood elsewhere?


12 posted on 10/12/2012 8:50:48 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: silverleaf

western weapons in the hands of these maniacs will be used to assassinate government figures in Turkey and Jordan and launch new terror into Lebanon and Israel

It looks like they already have (in Syria) unfortunately it was our own. I am so sick of these Basta**s being above the law EVERYWHERE.


13 posted on 10/12/2012 8:50:48 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: nanetteclaret

“The Taliban is inside the building.”

Wrong!!!! The Taliban is in the White House.

Does not anyone recognize that when a Pakistan Doctor helped us get Osama, he was immediately outed by us and subsequently arrested by the Pakistan govt. When a movie ‘insulting’ to Muslims was publicized, we immediately outed the maker of the film and the we subsequently arrested him (how long will he last in prison). When Seal Team Six killed Osama, Obama personally outed them to the world (never has been done, ever) and they were subsequently killed by terrorist. This is not a mistake on the part of the Obama administration, it has now become a central theme of US policy.

Think about who we have in the White House.


14 posted on 10/12/2012 9:01:27 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Really NOW!!!!)
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To: expat1000

Bump bump bump


15 posted on 10/12/2012 9:17:12 AM PDT by uncitizen (Religion of Peace my hind end !)
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To: expat1000

Bump bump bump


16 posted on 10/12/2012 9:17:12 AM PDT by uncitizen (Religion of Peace my hind end !)
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To: dirtymac

Gee it’s almost like Obama has a personal beef with and wants to exact revenge on people who hurt Muslim terrorist feelings


17 posted on 10/12/2012 9:20:51 AM PDT by uncitizen (Religion of Peace my hind end !)
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To: marstegreg

I’m not well informed on the Syria situation so I ask this question at the cost of looking stupid, but remember those 30-40000 missing shoulder launch grenades in the wake of our Libyan embassy attack? Could those weapons be headed for Syria? TIA I really want to understand this situation and will be reading all that is posted on this thread.


18 posted on 10/12/2012 9:31:49 AM PDT by uncitizen (Religion of Peace my hind end !)
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To: expat1000
This statement by Biden begs many questions. Who is aware of this effort? Who is responsible for it? (i.e., who takes the blame if something goes wrong... gets the credit if it works - recall the Bin Laden take down was set up so Obama could get credit but pass the buck if it failed) Where does the money come from to pay for it... without a budget Obama is running amok/rogue. Remember Ollie North ran Iran Contra to get around congressional sanctions about intervention in another revolution... in this case we don't even know who are the players much less who are the good and bad guys.

Ole’ Joe let the cat out of the bag (foot in mouth again) and this is a story that needs to be pursued.

19 posted on 10/12/2012 10:03:02 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: dirtymac

ummm... I think that’s what he meant ...


20 posted on 10/12/2012 10:31:41 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: expat1000
See I think Obama’s intelligence is different than US intelligence. And I think Obama’s intelligence misled him into thinking his ‘freedom’ fighters in Libya were going to fight in Syria. I also think that offensive video had the intended purpose to create such crisis of outrage on so called religious grounds, that retribution would need be made by US, to for ‘humanitarian’ reasons send that ‘blind criminal’ back to Egypt. But somebody neglected to tell AlQaeda and they took revenge on US in Libya over a drone kill that took out one of their leaders.
21 posted on 10/12/2012 10:52:03 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: uncitizen

From an article by the Daily Caller:

“A survey of weapon depots in Libya shows that up to 20,000 shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles are now missing, partly because President Barack Obama has refused to send troops to guard the weapons depots, according to a left-of-center advocate.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/27/free-for-all-up-to-20000-anti-aircraft-missiles-stolen-in-libya/#ixzz296mhGsDc

I think thos are EXACTLY the ones!! I find it almost unimaginable that the media has not bothered to investigate this (unless the were explicitly told not to). Last Thursday the head of security for the embassy was assasinated. Why would the administration not secure one of the only witnesses to this event? Why was this person not held somewhere safe? I get a very bad taste in my mouth when I pose these questions. Here is the story (buried by the media, of course)

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/11/yemen-security-chief-at-us-embassy-killed-in-sanaa/?intcmp=trending


22 posted on 10/12/2012 11:09:20 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

you’ll find this clip interesting...

http://www.1041thetruth.com/podcast/harris/173616781.html#.UHYqP3EaUIs.facebook


23 posted on 10/12/2012 11:14:19 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: marstegreg; All

It’s important that every FReeper get on this thread to contribute to or to get informed on how the Libyan coverup is more wide reading than meets the eye.

thanx martsegreg for the content and thoughts you provided!


24 posted on 10/12/2012 12:33:25 PM PDT by uncitizen (Religion of Peace my hind end !)
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To: mo

Thanks for the clip. I find it infuriating how this information is being filtered for us.


25 posted on 10/12/2012 12:52:28 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

do u think that Obamas whisper to Russia’s PM (”I’ll have more flexibility after the election”) is in any way related to what happened in Lybia? And if so, what is the relationship?


26 posted on 10/12/2012 12:53:34 PM PDT by uncitizen (Religion of Peace my hind end !)
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To: marstegreg

Trey Goudy ..a congressman from SC ..is the only person, IMHO, saying all the right things that need to be said..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSvDkwsFsk8


27 posted on 10/12/2012 12:59:02 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: expat1000

True. But the position of Romney and Ryan is essentially the same as that of the Obama Regime.


28 posted on 10/12/2012 5:18:34 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: uncitizen

I tend to believe these events are part of the same tapestry. Originally, I think the whole Putin thing was probably in regards to drawing down our nuclear capabilities and our defenses in general. It may have had something to do with Iran. Russia has been in bed with the Iranian government for quite a while now. I think those two things are the most likely but we may never know.


29 posted on 10/12/2012 6:30:40 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: mo

TED GOWDY IS AWESOME!!!!!!! Thank you for sending me the link. He is truly representing the people with what he said ( all to rare these days). Did he come in with the Tea Party folks in 2010?


30 posted on 10/12/2012 6:40:36 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

Today there was the news item that some transport loaded with Russian weapons was headed for Libya I believe. So I was wondering, of maybe we are arming them as well.

And thanks for your ideas. I will keep all these things in mind. Putting the dots together requires a LOT of research to keep up with all these recent developments.


31 posted on 10/12/2012 7:38:54 PM PDT by uncitizen (Religion of Peace my hind end !)
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To: marstegreg

I don’t have any evidence to provide but I believe damn well that the weapons used to kill American citizens in Libya were supplied by the United States. Nobody gave a second thought to WHO they were arming because they wanted Kadaffi out so bad. Obama made sure his brotherhood buddies got the goods to take care of that country, and unwittingly, 4 Americans as well.


32 posted on 10/12/2012 7:47:26 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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- Hussein Junior

The “Lone Funman” is still there -

.....and his finger is twitching

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33 posted on 10/12/2012 7:49:39 PM PDT by devolve (----- ------- -CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER- ----------------------------)
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To: uncitizen

It’s hard to say. Shipments that are contraban are generally not from point A to point B. I would imagine that the more “middle men” there are, the harder it would be to find the sender (unless this administration is so inept that they don’t feel they have to hide it). Since there are a LOT of Russian weapons making their rounds in the middle east, I’m quite sure that even though Russia cannot deny making them, they can cetainly deny sending them. You make a good point though, the situation in the middle east is percolating these days. It does seem likely that things will boil over.


34 posted on 10/12/2012 7:59:58 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: JerseyDvl

I think you are spot on. If the administration sent people to “clean up” after the attack, what did they clean up? What exactly did they secure that did not include the anything in the embassy??? Diaries, documents, file cabinets all full of sensitive information all left behind?


35 posted on 10/12/2012 8:07:01 PM PDT by marstegreg
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