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Around the world, perceptions of Obama-Romney contest lag reality (Many unprepared for Romney win)
The Washington Post ^ | October 21, 2012 | Michael Birnbaum and Keith B. Richburg

Posted on 10/21/2012 4:52:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

BERLIN — As President Obama and Mitt Romney prepare for a Monday debate on foreign policy and polls show the Republican challenger with a real chance of victory in two weeks, many observers abroad are saying: Wait, what?

From Europe to China to the Middle East, perceptions of the contest have lagged behind indications that the two men are in a virtual dead heat. Obama remains widely popular abroad, and there are signs that many leaders are unprepared for a Romney presidency.

In Western Europe, few people can imagine Romney in office. In China, officials have been focused on the intrigues of their impending leadership transition, though many worry that both American candidates have been beating up on their country instead of pummeling each other. And in the Middle East, political chaos has kept many activists and officials from contemplating the election much at all.

In Europe, leaders have good reason to avoid the issue: From the Scottish Highlands to the heel of Italy, it’s Obama country all the way. One survey last month from the German Marshall Fund found Europeans breaking 75 percent for Obama and 8 percent for Romney...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: china; europe; obama; romney
Won't they be surprised.
1 posted on 10/21/2012 4:52:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In a SANE world, it would be Romney 75, Obama 25!!! In the USA!!!


2 posted on 10/21/2012 4:55:53 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

It’s probably close to that, in reality.


3 posted on 10/21/2012 4:59:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
UNINSTALLING OBAMA.....……………. █████████████▒▒▒ 90% complete.
4 posted on 10/21/2012 5:00:49 PM PDT by mgist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In Britain, Romney is viewed as representing a party that has swung further and further to the right on social issues, thus sharing less affinity with his counterparts on this side of the Atlantic than Republicans once did. The coalition government headed by Prime Minister David Cameron, a Conservative, has embraced the cause of same-sex marriage and vowed to vigorously combat global warming.

So it wasn't Republicans who swung further and further to the right, it was European conservatives who swung further and further to the left.

Soooo glad my ancestors got out of there.

5 posted on 10/21/2012 5:01:34 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So? Were we prepared for David Cameron when he took over the UK?


6 posted on 10/21/2012 5:03:00 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess the Eurowennies were counting on America to become a failure as they are.
I do not know about China. Maybe they were counting on a complete takeover of the USA, under Obumbo.


7 posted on 10/21/2012 5:03:51 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Look I have a difficult time imagining either one of these yahoos holding public office again, but there you have it. Probably Romney, and we'll have to take up the battle with him later.

I think the failing of the political polling game over the last dozen years or so is the reason we get people like Lurch, Obamugabe, Romney, McCain and others of their kind sneaking through the primaries, and then leveraging the general elections.

There are analysts out there who make a living manipulating so-called internal poll results to mislead the big money boys into lubricating political campaigns. The Romans called them Augurs and with plenty of information from their spies throughout the empire, they were able to mislead the whole nation into believing whatever they wished. They were paid well!

The very best of their kind used flocks of birds. Well fed birds, when set loose to fly, will 'drop their load' on the way out of the cage ~ you then observe the patterns on the pavement ~ and work your way into an appropriate prediction, all the while able to blame it on a flock of birds somewhere flying hither and yon in a random pattern well beyond the control of any human being.

8 posted on 10/21/2012 5:05:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey! We like this "American President bowing" stuff!


9 posted on 10/21/2012 5:07:30 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They better get prepared, the bowing and scraping and appeasement and free checks in the mail are about over.


10 posted on 10/21/2012 5:09:42 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: shalom aleichem
I'd guess that only 1 in 1,000 Americans could tell you who David Cameron even is. They are no longer a major power, even though they possess thermonuclear weapons.
11 posted on 10/21/2012 5:09:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My question is, Why would the Washington Post put this out?

Do you think it is to warn the “Around the world” countries they best cough up $ for Obama’s campaign?


12 posted on 10/21/2012 5:11:05 PM PDT by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: shalom aleichem

Great comment. I don’t remember giving a hoot about who took over the UK. LOL

What I do remember is all the supposition about “racist America. Will they overcome racism and elect a black man?”

That soured me on giving any thought to what Europe or the rest want. Now they laugh at us thanks to Obama. I like to remind them of their attitudes in 2008. I like to remind them that so many of us were concerned about his radical ties and positions, not race, and they wouldn’t listen to what we had to say.


13 posted on 10/21/2012 5:13:18 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t say anything about any other country, but Obama’s name is mud in Japan. A Romney victory would be greeted with satisfaction and profound relief.


14 posted on 10/21/2012 5:14:11 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

but they have their heart set on Obama having more flexibility in his second term!


15 posted on 10/21/2012 5:16:25 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: COBOL2Java

Franky, I don’t care what the rest of the world thinks. That’s why we have almost 3 months to transition administrations. If someone in England or China or anywhere has a problem with preparing for who our next President is, then that’s their problem.

What makes it worse and what makes this article a pile of turds is every leader in every country probably has a dossier on Romney, his policies, positions, possible cabinet and negotiating tactics.


16 posted on 10/21/2012 5:17:09 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: EQAndyBuzz

” every leader in every country probably has a dossier on Romney,”
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They also know that he will not bow to them.


17 posted on 10/21/2012 5:26:08 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Ronin

That is good to hear, Ronin. I have always wanted to visit Japan. Hopefully, someday I will with an American president at the helm here in the U.S.


18 posted on 10/21/2012 5:32:31 PM PDT by mplsconservative ($7.75 for a block of Velveeta cheese? Let's have an anti-Obama grilled cheese revolt!)
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To: Ronin

The Japanese are conservative businesspeople, merchants and workers, so of course they see through Mr. Obama.


19 posted on 10/21/2012 5:32:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: AlexW

Probably foreign leaders have “binders” of info on Romney.


20 posted on 10/21/2012 5:33:24 PM PDT by hatter ( Cr*p. Just realized I'm still "it" from a game of Tag in 1969.)
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To: Ronin

Well, good for them. Unfortunately, their opinion means nothing to us - the voters.


21 posted on 10/21/2012 5:34:35 PM PDT by Catsrus (Ma)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Europeans haven’t learned anything from their own situation, unless it’s the wish for Obama to do to us as their leaders have done to them. That would truly put us all
in the same Trans-Atlantic Titanic.


22 posted on 10/21/2012 5:36:06 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To the Freepers who have wondered why Intrade is screwy...here ya go.
23 posted on 10/21/2012 5:36:34 PM PDT by JPG (Make it happen)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
many observers abroad are saying: Wait, what?

Should we call them observers if they aren't observing?
24 posted on 10/21/2012 5:38:44 PM PDT by convocation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My friend in the UK emailed me this week “You must be happy, it looks like your guy is going to win.” I was surprised they knew over there.


25 posted on 10/21/2012 5:43:29 PM PDT by Rytas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I guess they'll just have to get over it.
26 posted on 10/21/2012 5:43:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They were unprepared for WW1, WW2, the Cold War, the Iranian revolution, the collapse of the USSR, the financial crisis, and the Euro crisis. Go figure.


27 posted on 10/21/2012 5:59:10 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: AlexW
I guess the Eurowennies were counting on America to become a failure as they are.

Indeed they are. Its why we MUST reduce our ties to Europe. We commited to "security" of 35+ EU countries. NATO ties us to Brussels in unacceptable ways.

28 posted on 10/21/2012 6:07:18 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: mgist

>> UNINSTALLING OBAMA.....…………….

ROFL!


29 posted on 10/21/2012 6:11:42 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Back in June, went on an Alaska cruise. Met a very socialist Brit who was confused by me: a polite thoughtful gun-carrying conservative. But one of the first political things he said to me was: “It seems pretty evident that there will be a regime change in the states in November, yes?” That was before I was quite ready to admit it out loud, so anecdotaly, I don’t see much surprise.


30 posted on 10/21/2012 6:15:08 PM PDT by wishuponastarr
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To: seekthetruth
I remember a report during the height of the Lewinsky scandal that the foreign press was overwhelmingly supportive of Clinton and unable to comprehend why Americans were giving him a hard time.

It helped that Clinton and the media successfully framed it as "all about sex" rather than about perjury and abuse of power...but probably they wouldn't have cared about perjury any more than our Democrats did.

31 posted on 10/21/2012 6:17:21 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Obama remains widely popular abroad”

Bullcrap


32 posted on 10/21/2012 6:25:42 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: mgist

Malware, huh?


33 posted on 10/21/2012 6:33:51 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Ronin

I’m glad to hear; and I’m optimistic we’ll deliver.


34 posted on 10/21/2012 6:35:40 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: Ann Archy

“In a SANE world, it would be Romney 75, Obama 25!!!”

In a sane world, there would have never been a first term for Obama.


35 posted on 10/21/2012 6:36:01 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: stilloftyhenight

We were in the Hill Country (in Texas) in June for a few days. Met a wonderful older couple from London who were in the U.S. for the first time. All they wanted to talk about was politics in their country and ours and how both had changed so much in the last four years. They were very well informed about the political situation here but had a little trouble understanding why one state is so different from another. I found out I knew almost nothing about their country. They would love to come to America but said it is becoming too much like their country and Europe as a whole.

One of their final questions was, “Why don’t people here realize what is happening to them?”.


36 posted on 10/21/2012 7:28:22 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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