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Speaking Of Videos, Why No Mention Of Lybian Ambassador Chris Stevens Torture/Rape Video?
JoeClarke.Net ^ | 10/2102012 | JoeClarke.Net

Posted on 10/21/2012 5:01:18 PM PDT by joeclarke

As we look forward, or not, to Monday's final Presidential debate focused on U.S. foreign policy, it should be a slam dunk for Romney to expose the incomprehensible diplomatic policies of President Obama, Hillary Clinton, D.O.S, Susan Rice, representative to the United Nations, and everyone else connected to United States foreign policy decisions, including the Pentagon, CIA, NSA etc.

Obama has admitted that, "The Buck Stops Here," and Hillary Clinton has taken full responsibility for the Benghazi attacks with the reservation that there was bad decision making because of the Fog of War. Too bad they never gave W Bush the same tolerance when he misjudged  international operations.

Democrats have never boasted to be big defenders of the U.S. Constitution, much less American interests.at home and abroad.  JFK promised the Bay of Pigs invaders help, but pulled out the rug - in the middle of their attack on Cuba. Teddy Kennedy supported winning the Vietnam War introduced by Lyndon B. Johnson, but then he thought it better to cut and run. When the U.S. was fighting Communism in Latin America, Kennedy, Kerry, and a slew of Democrats, of course, reversed course for political reasons. Jimmy Carter should be added to the list of Americans who made an ill planned attempt to rescue Americans taken hostage in Iran. The unfortunate suicide bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon was under the supervision of a multi national force, not U.S. President Reagan directly, which explains why we do better when not encumbered by international types. Who can forget Black Hawk Down when   President Clinton refused to reinforce Army Rangers Delta Force who begged for more armament in Mogadishu in 1993, but were refused. As a result 20 soldiers died, 80 were wounded and tortured,  and one helicopter pilot taken prisoner.

Now comes Ambassador Chris Stevens, a gay man, according to sources, who is sent to an extremely  non secure area inhabited by Islamic radicals, refreshed after a bloody and violent uprising, who take pleasure in torturing and killing homosexuals.  Hillary and Company's PC ideology has always been proud of forcing social engineering in the U.S. and everywhere else on earth, thinking of it as  a great triumph for liberalism. Hillary and Company  (Pentagon included) disallow any sort of Christian witnessing, carrying a Bible, or anything of the sort, but send a gay may out among gay killers - that will show 'em! I have had friends employed by the State Department, who can testify that anti Christian bias  has been wreaking harassment in that agency for many years.

Since even Fox News has not mentioned the horrific video of the sexual assault on Chris Stevens, I doubt that Romney will bring it up in the next debate, even though THIS IS THE VIDEO which should evoke outrage at the highest  levels among Americans For a less graphic version of the video, Michael Savage does a good job of describing it here.

I have little doubt that Hillary Clinton, Obama, National Security, CIA, NSA etc. had knowledge of this extremely graphic and masochistic killing of Chris Stevens early on, but decided that  they rather shift the public's attention  toward the anti-Mohammad video made in the U.S.A. in order to point the blame toward what else? An American.

Where is the outrage?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: benghazi; chrisstevens; hillary; impeachnow; libya; lybia; waronterror

1 posted on 10/21/2012 5:01:22 PM PDT by joeclarke
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To: joeclarke

The outrage will manifest itself Nov 6 when we kick Obama and Hillary & Susan Rice out of government...


2 posted on 10/21/2012 5:12:42 PM PDT by Former MSM Viewer (We're supposed to be more angry about what Romney does with his money than what Obama does with ours)
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To: joeclarke

I keep hearing of the video showing “the rape and torture of Ambassador Stevens”. I have yet to see anything that supports this claim.

I don’t like propaganda and I believe only what I see and can be reasonably verified. This whole business of rape and torture is real tenuous stuff. Let’s stick to what we know.


3 posted on 10/21/2012 5:17:48 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: joeclarke

There was no mention of rape or sodomy on the Fox News Special on Friday night (set to replay tonight). Maybe it never happened...?


4 posted on 10/21/2012 5:18:20 PM PDT by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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To: joeclarke

No way would such a video see the light of day.


5 posted on 10/21/2012 5:22:28 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: zwerni

Our government would not let the moms see the bodies of their dead American sons afterwards though, huh..


6 posted on 10/21/2012 5:26:54 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: joeclarke
Hillary and Company's PC ideology has always been proud of forcing social engineering in the U.S. and everywhere else on earth, thinking of it as a great triumph for liberalism. Hillary and Company (Pentagon included) disallow any sort of Christian witnessing, carrying a Bible, or anything of the sort, but send a gay may out among gay killers - that will show 'em!...well said.....
7 posted on 10/21/2012 5:30:00 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: joeclarke
>Obama has admitted that, "The Buck Stops Here," and Hillary Clinton has taken full responsibility for the Benghazi attacks<

Big whoop. Just words. What does it mean? Nothing. Janet Shake and Bake Reno "took responsibility" for Waco. What did that mean? Absolutely nothing.

President Zero has really become the empty chair; the empty suit -- full of empty words.

8 posted on 10/21/2012 5:30:08 PM PDT by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: joeclarke

It’s hard to say what’s happening in this video - they’re dragging him out through a hole in the wall and pulling his body around. They’re waving their fists and shouting “Allah Akhbar,” though, so I doubt that this is a positive thing.

Remember the “oh, the Libyans are trying to help him” story that the press initially floated with the appearance of the photographs of the Libyans parading his body through the streets and and jumping up and down, while some of them are also making obscene gestures. Ah, yes, that unique Libyan CPR...

Obama should be tried for treason. He either calmly listened to or merely slept through the desperate cries for help that were being picked up by our many drones and surveillance devices (not to mention real-time viewing of the whole episode).

Romney should ask him why military rescue was not called for right away; there were planes and helicopters ready to go immediately if called upon. But they never were.


9 posted on 10/21/2012 5:30:29 PM PDT by livius
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To: joeclarke
If the video does exist, personally, I wouldn't want to see it played and replayed every night on the news or wherever. It's bad enough that allegations about the Ambassador's sex life are all over the internet. This has to hurt his family and loved ones. The victims’ families have been lied to and ignored by this administration. Why add to their pain by bringing up this cr*p? What purpose does it serve except to excite the gossipmongers?
10 posted on 10/21/2012 5:37:30 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

I have just search he’d Liveleak. No such video exists. The jihadi scum would post it on Live Leak themselves.


11 posted on 10/21/2012 5:40:07 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

They should be able to see the autopsy results.

Of course, if the government was in charge of the autopsy it will say whatever they WANT it to say...


12 posted on 10/21/2012 5:43:19 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: joeclarke

masochistic killing

^^
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13 posted on 10/21/2012 5:47:41 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: DariusBane
The rape allegation was first started by the reports that Stevens body was s “presented “ to the hospital in the same fashion as Qaddafi

.. who was s sodomized with objects

14 posted on 10/21/2012 5:49:53 PM PDT by Popman (November 7th...will be a good day for America..)
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To: joeclarke
The torture and rape allegations showed up shortly after Sept 11.

However, several of the ‘timelines’ do not support that happening.

Re: Brett Baier’s recent report.

Stevens was alive when he locked himself in the ‘safe room’ but his aide was killed outside it.

The former Special Forces guys, who actually worked for the CIA and were in another area of the compound when the attacks started, ran to the activity. They supposedly took weaponry from the Libyan guards who were cowering. They and some of the Libyans found Stevens. Stevens was near death due to smoke inhalation. They then transported Stevens to the hospital. Stevens either died in transit or died at the hospital. Stevens’ body was taken to the airport and flown out.

At no time was Stevens actually in the hands of the attackers, per these reports. Thus, [and I posed the question in several threads since September 11] there was no opportunity for an assault on Stevens’s body.

The video (linked above) supposedly is when Stevens was ‘rescued’ from the safe room, not taken by the attackers.

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15 posted on 10/21/2012 5:50:07 PM PDT by TomGuy (Dukakis is to tank as Obama is to binder & Big Bird)
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To: joeclarke

That’s what you think is evidence of rape?

Good grief


16 posted on 10/21/2012 5:54:17 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: fatnotlazy

It would paint a picture of what the administration was ignoring during those 6+ hours of live feed, when they refused to send anybody to disperse that crowd.

The mom of one of the guys who was killed said she saw spatters of blood on the wall and wondered whether that was her son’s blood. Stuff like that haunts a person. What you fear may be even worse than anything you might find out. And being lied to is worst of all.

I don’t want to see any video. I do want to know the truth, and I want the world to know the truth - so these people are all held accountable, and so the whole world can see what sharia means and the evil that our fighting men have been facing from day one.

I want people to ponder what it meant when Obama said that if the political winds turn an ugly direction, HE WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS. This attack was the wind turning in a VERY, VERY ugly direction, and our foreign-enemy-combatant-in-chief has promised to stand with these people - the very people he used American fire-power to install, without permission from Congress.

In the two years since the Egyptian ambassador claimed that Obama had privately told him he was and still is a Muslim who supports the Muslim agenda and would start working on that agenda as soon as he had shoved Obamacare down our throats... Obama has set the Muslim world aflame by replacing the stable, anti-terrorist regimes in the Middle east with Islamists hell-bent on worldwide sharia and the destruction of the US and Israel (the 2 items of the “Muslim agenda” that all sects agree on). At the same time he has a policy of bargaining with the Taliban under the idea that if they are “taking care of” (that is, raping, brutalizing, and tyrannizing) their own people, they won’t pay attention to attacking the US.

Words fail me, to describe how DANGEROUS Obama’s inclination towards the Islamists has been. Our southern border has been left wide open - even though direct unchecked Iranian flights to Venezuela have been said to have large numbers of Hezbollah and Hamas jihadists. God only knows whether they brought the precursors to WMD’s as well, ready to be mixed/activated when the time is “right”. And where do you think those jihadists are headed?

What that means is that while America was sleeping, we may have thousands of jihadist sleeper cells in every state capital in the country, just waiting for the signal to begin their attacks, which could include WMD’s of any kind. American Muslim leaders have said that “Arab Spring” is coming to America, and Eric Holder has been suing the southern states to make sure that the foot-soldiers of the American “Arab Spring” have a wide-open road in front of them - leading to your front step, and mine.

In effect, Obama has been doing to AMERICA AS A WHOLE exactly what he did to Chris Stevens. And we are going to get exactly what he got, unless we wake up and stop this beast before the acorn he’s been planting grows to adulthood.


17 posted on 10/21/2012 5:59:10 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Popman

Look I have heard the rape allegations were started by “Arab Media”. That’s it. No source name. No reporter. Ominous hints of a video. Dark allusion to the Momar death video. I heard people telling me that Ambassador Stevens large intestines were hanging out of his back.

The Obama Administration screwed up enough in this deal without “us”manufacturing evidence. Play it straight as that is the only right thing to do. The truth is an indictment of Obama. We are NOT D U. We are not MSNBC or Dan Rather. Let’s stick to what we know we know. If further facts materialize fine. So far they haven’t.


18 posted on 10/21/2012 6:10:48 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: TomGuy
"But Mr. Abu Khattala insisted that he had not been part of the aggression at the American compound. He said he had arrived just as the gunfire was beginning to crackle and had sought to break up a traffic jam around the demonstration. After fleeing for a time, he said, he entered the compound at the end of the battle because he was asked to help try to rescue four Libyan guards working for the Americans who were trapped inside. Although the attackers had set fire to the main building, Mr. Abu

Khattala said he had not noticed anything burning."

"Still, he said, “we have a very good relationship” with the leaders of Benghazi’s largest militias — which constitute the only security force for the government — from their days fighting together on the front lines of the revolt against Colonel Qaddafi. He even pointedly named two senior leaders of those big brigades, whom he said he had seen outside the mission on the night of the attack."

"Mr. Abu Khattala as a leader of Ansar al-Shariah, whose trucks and fighters were seen attacking the mission. Mr. Abu Khattala praised the group’s members as “good people with good goals, which are trying to implement Islamic law,” and he insisted their network of popular support was vastly underestimated by other brigade leaders who said the group had fewer than 200 fighters.

“It is bigger than a brigade,” he said. “It is a movement.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/world/africa/suspect-in-benghazi-attack-scoffs-at-us.html?hp&_r=0

19 posted on 10/21/2012 6:14:22 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: joeclarke

Hillary Clinton deserves far more focus, investigation and attention than she is getting. You are one of the few willing to even name her. Intent on chasing Obama out of office we dwell on Rice, dropping Hillary nearly entirely.

The WH handling of its reaction is one story, but the cause of tragedy will lead to Hillary. However she is getting undeserved white glove treatment so she can, first, retire in glory when she should have resigned in shame or fired.


20 posted on 10/21/2012 6:18:37 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: joeclarke
Fox has aired a one hour special by Bret Baier detailing the Benghazi attack minute by minute. He said that a special security team came into the compound and found Stephens alive but unresponsive and they took him to a hospital where he was treated but did not respond.

I found that statement curious, knowing that so many pictures of him in control of the Lybians are in circulation.

21 posted on 10/21/2012 6:18:58 PM PDT by Baynative
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To: butterdezillion

You’ve painted a good picture (we need to all step back and look at the larger plan), and it is very unsettling.


22 posted on 10/21/2012 6:23:50 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Irenic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGILRWEcHo&feature=player_embedded

Listen carefully at the 5 second mark.

Men are leaving the bldg and getting into the truck (three of them) at the 11 second mark and a gunshot at the 16 mark.


23 posted on 10/21/2012 6:32:19 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic
What does that look like in front of the guys thumb?

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The ambassdor's arm is limber in a picture, then when he is over the shoulder you can see red on his back (some blood pooling) and his arm is now frozen into place (probably from being laid on his stomach for a period), rigor has started. That takes time. How long was the Ambassador missing? Several hours...

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24 posted on 10/21/2012 6:42:21 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic
His pants are missing

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25 posted on 10/21/2012 6:44:23 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Is that a normal procedure? Why even not let them see their loved one, wonder if they even cleaned and dressed the bodies.

I would be one mean mama, if they would not let me have my sons body. I suspect those bodies told a story Obama did not want known.

26 posted on 10/21/2012 6:44:35 PM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: fatnotlazy
I AGREE.

I do want it turned over to Congressman Issa and Chaffetz and ASAP.

Public viewing is not a need to know.

27 posted on 10/21/2012 6:47:06 PM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: Irenic

Gruesome pictures but this seems to be a habit for these sorts.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=403421273061984&set=a.403421003062011.91806.334906549913457&type=1&theater

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=403421413061970&set=a.403421003062011.91806.334906549913457&type=1&theater

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=403421156395329&set=a.403421003062011.91806.334906549913457&type=1&theater


28 posted on 10/21/2012 6:52:30 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic
“It is bigger than a brigade,” he said. “It is a movement.”

Very interesting comment, not suprising, just informative.

Makes my mind go to just how many countries does Obama run. Even when he loses, he is not through with his terror campaign of mass destruction.

29 posted on 10/21/2012 6:54:36 PM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: joeclarke

There was no “torture rape” video. The video showed pro-USA people awkwardly taking Stevens to the hospital.


30 posted on 10/21/2012 6:59:31 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: butterdezillion

We are still waiting for the truth on the death of John Kennedy and that happened almost 50 years ago so you might not want to hold your breath waiting for the autopsy results from Benghazi.


31 posted on 10/21/2012 7:19:05 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Born to Conserve

There is no rape tape that I have seen.

There is no pro-USA tape of people taking Stevens to the hospital that I have seen.

The only video of Stevens that I have found is of them pulling him through the window.

Supposedly they are happy he is alive...the rest is filling in the blanks or imagination.

Neither story is proved or confirmed.


32 posted on 10/21/2012 7:21:14 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: TomGuy

You might want to watch Bret’s report again. They did NOT take Chris Stevens out of there, they deemed him dead already and left him there.

As the videos of the animals pulling him out, this matches what was reported by Bret. IF our guys had taken him from the compound, his body would not have been there for the animals to drag him out.


33 posted on 10/21/2012 8:30:35 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
As the videos of the animals pulling him out, this matches what was reported by Bret. IF our guys had taken him from the compound, his body would not have been there for the animals to drag him out.

Then, how did the body get to the hospital and subsequently to the airplane? One report I read indicated that he was still alive when [as the video shows] him being taken out of the safe house. He died from smoke inhalation, not from any wounds [torture or otherwise], per some reports.

(Bret's report is just one of about a dozen that had varying information.)
34 posted on 10/21/2012 8:53:52 PM PDT by TomGuy (Dukakis is to tank as Obama is to binder & Big Bird)
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To: TomGuy

I have no idea, all I was stating was that your reference to Bret’s story was incorrect.

I pray the truth comes out, that good decent people who know the truth come forward. I say they are all freakin cowards, every last one of them.


35 posted on 10/21/2012 9:16:58 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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