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Bret Baier confirms more Benghazi tips are coming in
Twitchy ^ | October 28, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 10/28/2012 7:23:28 PM PDT by bobsunshine

Fox News anchor Bret Baier, who has been a leader in coverage of the situation in Benghazi, confirms more tips are being received.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: benghazi; obama; shadowwars; threatmatrix
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To: bobsunshine
I actually have some sympathy for the argument that it might have been too dangerous to insert a ground team into Benghazi-- but what about air support?

If indeed the former SEALs were painting a mortar position with a laser, one wonders what they believed might be able to put some steel on target.

But at the end of the day, even if one accepts the notion that a military option was too risky, why were the American People lied to for weeks on end?

It's the last part that should lead to senior officials losing their jobs. In an old school Westminster style government, Hillary Clinton would have been sacked a month ago. But does this go into the Oval Office?

51 posted on 10/28/2012 8:19:48 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: cynwoody

That is who I was thinking but don’t remember for sure.


52 posted on 10/28/2012 8:24:15 PM PDT by libbylu
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To: QT3.14
Seen that, Geraldo had Charles Woods, father of former Seal Tyrone Woods on live, to which Geraldo was bowing his head down and shaking it in a no gesture as he just had a retired General on to give cover for Obama not being able to send the military in, to which Mr Woods was saying(paraphrased) in the interview "it is better to die the life of a hero, than live the life of a coward"
53 posted on 10/28/2012 8:26:13 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: bobsunshine

people will be talking about this for 100 years
it is amazing that only 45 seconds were devoted to it on the sunday shows


54 posted on 10/28/2012 8:29:23 PM PDT by genghis
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To: Lysandru

They did insert a ground team. That is how they got the 30ish people out of there. But those guys were caught up in Libyan red tape trying to get permission to go to the safe house and in getting transport to the safe house. Someone was too cowardly to shoot via air or was waiting for permission from the Libyans.


55 posted on 10/28/2012 8:30:31 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Professional
But I’d thinking some base could deliver a plane from Italy to Libya inside of 20 minutes?

It's 467 miles from Naval Air Station Sigonella (on Sicily) to Benghazi. The gunship in question, the AC-130U maximum speed is 300 mph. So figure a couple of hours. Plenty of time to be relevant, at least with regard to the two SEALs killed by mortar fire, reportedly while painting the mortar crew with a laser designator.

Of course, if it's really true they were using a laser target designator, that means there must have been something up in the air that could make use of the target paint. Perhaps an armed drone? Or maybe a gunship actually was on site but was told to hold its fire.

56 posted on 10/28/2012 8:31:20 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Lysandru

And the forces that did go in were held up by the Libyans for 40 minutes at the airport.


57 posted on 10/28/2012 8:35:16 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Deagle
The one question Geraldo didn't ask after the general claimed help wasn't feasible:

Then why is the Zero Admin full of different versions and stonewalling?

58 posted on 10/28/2012 8:35:53 PM PDT by QT3.14 (November 6: Remember BENGHAZI!!)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Thanks for the ping.
59 posted on 10/28/2012 8:39:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: QT3.14

Yes, but the question that was help available was wrong on its face! If it was not available, then the military was not prepared and is another bad problem (and actually I have to believe it was). If Geraldo was going to be thorough he would had continued this line of questioning.

There is little doubt that POTUS and the Administration stonewalled and provided conflicting information, it is simply a matter of why at this point. Geraldo does not seem to grasp the concept (against his liberal beliefs).


60 posted on 10/28/2012 8:42:34 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: Son House
Mr Woods was saying(paraphrased) in the interview "it is better to die the life of a hero, than live the life of a coward"

Mr. Woods said he held no hatred for Zero, but wonder if he had Zero in mind in his quote.

61 posted on 10/28/2012 8:44:07 PM PDT by QT3.14 (November 6: Remember BENGHAZI!!)
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To: QT3.14
if there was anything the military could have done?

Answer: The President didn't do everything he could.

62 posted on 10/28/2012 8:46:58 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Professional

Here is a larger dilemma. On one hand we had a President who feared no branch of government when he sent our troops to Libya just a year ago. On the other, we have a President who would not call in extra support to assist Americans requesting military support. There is no way this is anything but a HUGE cover-up. If Obama wanted our Ambassador out, he would have made it out.


63 posted on 10/28/2012 8:47:18 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: Deagle

The Plane Affair is a complete joke compared to this, yet an entire bogus invesitgation was committed to that with the result being the wrong person in jail.


64 posted on 10/28/2012 8:53:13 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: freeagle
Fiasco

The John Batchelor Show ^ | October 27,2012 | John Batchelor

****************************************EXCERPT**********************************

My fresh information is how to explain the surprising scale of the errors at Benghazi. It is useful to stipulate that the building where Ambassador Stevens was attacked was not a consulate.

It was a State Department residence that was maintained to provide an explanation for the presence of the CIA station that was about a mile distance --

65 posted on 10/28/2012 8:56:20 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: QT3.14

I think Keane is a member of the West Point Protective Assoc.

I don’t trust him.


66 posted on 10/28/2012 8:57:42 PM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 82)
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To: libbylu

He is a brown nosing @zz hole.


67 posted on 10/28/2012 8:59:33 PM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 82)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

This is much bigger than the Plame affair or the WaterGate affair! Unfortunately, the Media gave up their quest for media awards so that they could protect their own.

That is okay, the public has disavowed them anyway.


68 posted on 10/28/2012 9:05:19 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: Marine_Uncle; onyx; TigersEye; Carry_Okie; SunkenCiv; blam; RummyChick; penelopesire
Checking thru the keyword lists....found this item:

OBAMA ADMIN MAY BE ARMING SYRIAN REBELS, DESPITE DENIALS

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Breitbart ^ | October 27,2012 | Awr Hawkins

Posted on Sat 27 Oct 2012 17:57:42 PDT by penelopesire

A source inside of Russia claims Syrian militants are firing American-made surface-to-air missiles at Bashar al-Assad's warplanes. Russia has supplied many of those warplanes, so they see the situation as American weapons shooting down Russian planes. Russian Gen. Nikolai Makarov said: "We have reliable information that Syrian militants have foreign portable anti-aircraft missile systems, including those made in the USA... it should be cleared up who delivered them." Prior to Makarov's comments, there had been "unconfirmed reports" of Syrian rebels using shoulder-mounted missiles. This came to light when Syrian rebels claimed to have shot down a fighter jet near the Iraq border in August. Some have suspected the missiles could be U.S. Stingers.  However, there is extant footage of Syrian opposition fighters using old Soviet SA-7 heat-seeking missiles to shoot at aircraft as well. Thus the bottom line is that confusion reigns, and Russia appears to be using the confusion to try to ascertain exactly where the U.S. stands.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

69 posted on 10/28/2012 9:10:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Fitzy_888
New York Times Front Page stories about Valerie Plame 93. NYT Front Page stories about Benghazigate: ZERO!
70 posted on 10/28/2012 9:11:41 PM PDT by CT
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To: cripplecreek

I agree, but up to a point. Most of these leaks are coming from the intel community, specifically the CIA Clandestine Service and their affiliated contractors. Their guys answered the bell that night in Tripoli, they asked for help and were left to die. They’re pissed (and rightfully so) at the civilian and military leaders who ignored their requests for assistance.

There are also leaks coming from others in the community; they’re upset over the politicization of intel associated with this event. There were clear indications it was a terrorist act within hours of the attack; yet the administration ignored those reports in favor of the “video” story and some senior intel leaders actually gave Obama cover on that point. That has angered a lot of analysts who’ve spent years developing expertise on terrorism in general and Al Qaida in particular. They see their work as being deliberately ignored in the name of political expediency, so in retaliation, they’re leaking just enough info—at the right times—to keep the story going and advance the narrative.

No one in Washington plays the leak game better than the spooks. And if my hunch is right, you’ll see even more major bombshells this week.


71 posted on 10/28/2012 9:14:21 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Professional
But I’d thinking some base could deliver a plane from Italy to Libya inside of 20 minutes? Someone help me out here.

Given the stories of ground lazing, that's what puts the "A" in an F/A-18 jet. Maybe not 20 minutes, but an hour certainly isn't out of the question. Considering the supposed seven hours of engagement on the ground, we need to hear better reasons why there wasn't air support.
72 posted on 10/28/2012 9:22:12 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Senator Goldwater

You have a whole load of career Civil Servants who now understand 0bama does not have their back


73 posted on 10/28/2012 9:26:13 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Deagle
that would remove 60% of our government.

And just think how much money that would save....

74 posted on 10/28/2012 9:32:00 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: QT3.14

If the Ambassador was dead, a few daisy cutters would have gotten the Islamist attention


75 posted on 10/28/2012 9:32:12 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: QT3.14

This is not the normal Keane...somebody got to him that totally changed his view, must have been something big because he has been much more vociferous against the Obama administration until this last comment...even my wife was stunned at his comment!!!!!!!!!!


76 posted on 10/28/2012 9:48:01 PM PDT by Stayfree (Find out how Obama is destroying America at White House Commie.com!!)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Heh, well there is definitely a good side to that...


77 posted on 10/28/2012 9:56:13 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: Stayfree

Maybe Keane was protecting his retirement. Obama administration could find a way to strip that being the crooks they are.


78 posted on 10/28/2012 10:09:23 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: QT3.14

Gen. Jack Keane was Vice Chief of Staff from 1999 to 2003, starting in the Clinton Administration.


79 posted on 10/28/2012 10:12:32 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: cripplecreek

I would suspect it is more likely CIA ops or special ops on the ground doing the leaking.....they want people to KNOW how vulgar this jack hole really is


80 posted on 10/28/2012 10:29:33 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: jwalsh07

Meanwhile Whoraldo reminded us again tonight the poor response by Bush vis a vis hurricane Katrina.


81 posted on 10/28/2012 10:40:37 PM PDT by Hildy (hen the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
One must consider the shelf life of Stingers. That is. How recent of issue are they. If their old vintage that where gathered years back and stored in various shit holes through out the mid east for instance, one must consider if the battery unit is still able to provide the required power to make the system viable. Put another way. We went through this same routine during the early and mid Iraqi SASO.
Everyone was crying out how supposed stingers would be used to shot down commercial aircraft, etc., without any idea at how many years they sat in some hole in Afghanistan before being moved westward.
I for one am going to be careful not to get to alarmed over various reports coming out of Putin's gang.
82 posted on 10/28/2012 10:54:36 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: QT3.14

Keane’s remarks were cowardly and false. He tried to make it sound like the fight only lasted an hour. So how would anyone in DC know who was alive or dead at that point? Because we know they didn’t know that. But the fight continued on at the annex for 7 or 8 more hours.


83 posted on 10/28/2012 11:23:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: The Sons of Liberty

An AC-130 would not be the proper vehicle for such an engagement. Even a Cobra or Apache could accidentally kill friendlies but would have been more surgical.


84 posted on 10/29/2012 12:32:26 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: willibeaux

BRAVO ZULU, sweetie, from an old Navy hand.


85 posted on 10/29/2012 1:19:30 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: jwalsh07

Thanks.


86 posted on 10/29/2012 4:00:16 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: F15Eagle

In recent years it seems that “Political Correctness” has extended so far into the Rules of Engagement that we are more concerned about killing so-called “friendlies” than our own people being killed. Sorry, I don’t consider anyone that is in the vicinity of an attack such as this, a “friendly”. Better a thousand Libyan mothers crying for their lost children than ONE American mother!


87 posted on 10/29/2012 7:02:20 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ( For AMERICA's sake: Vote for the Mormon, NOT the muslim; The Capitalist, NOT the Communist! FUBO!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Well, you could easily killed the embassy staff. An AC-130 basically mows down a football field at a time.

It is not precise targeting when those Gatling-type guns unleash.

The safe house was in a suburban neighborhood. They would have trashed the house trying to shoot anyone standing 30-40 feet away firing on the house.


88 posted on 10/29/2012 7:13:38 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

typo

Well, you could have easily killed the embassy staff. (with an AC-130). Obviously meaning “accidentally”.


89 posted on 10/29/2012 7:15:21 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Hildy

Geraldo is one of life’s crosses to bear.


90 posted on 10/29/2012 2:26:58 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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