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More than 6 million self-described “evangelicals” voted for Obama
wordpress.com ^ | Joel Rosenberg

Posted on 11/09/2012 4:58:17 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2

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To: ravager

I think you said enough. But glad you can cut as paste too. Now try doing it with something applicable, like an apology to God fearing folks here on this Pro God site for one of the most asinine statements I have seen in many years.

Hey I guess I did have something to say.


101 posted on 11/09/2012 7:07:14 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I do not know about you but I am sick to death of so called conservatives and Christians who claim superiority all the while calming to liberalism.


102 posted on 11/09/2012 7:07:58 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I didn't say eff Jesus or eff Whitey. That wasn't me.

And yeah, ago ahead and hurl “anti-whatever” tag you want to hurl at me. It's what your kind have been doing for last 4 years. I don't feel entitled. I have a GREAT job.

And I am here on FR for my country, not to pander the ego of low lives like you who wear the “conservative” badge, spit on other ethnicities and then vote for the enemy.

I am done you. Move along.

103 posted on 11/09/2012 7:13:11 PM PST by ravager
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To: ejonesie22
Yeah good job! You do indeed have something to say finally. I was getting worried.

As for “God fearing” and “Pro God”.....save it! I am talking about the Evangelicals who voted Obama or didn't vote at all thereby passively voting for Obama.

Now your turn. Hurry up with your own apology and don't choke again.

104 posted on 11/09/2012 7:22:45 PM PST by ravager
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Incredibly, Governor Romney received nearly 1 million fewer votes in 2012 than Sen. John McCain received in 2008. (In 2008, McCain won 58,343,671 votes. In 2012, Romney won only 57,486,044 votes.)

This is demonstrably false and the author of this piece is an idiot. There are enormous numbers of uncounted votes, and it takes 5 minutes of research to discover this.

105 posted on 11/09/2012 7:23:29 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Utmost Certainty
...but SoCons were fervent to vote for them in droves.

I think you hit upon an important point. A lot of the ambivalence over socons isn't caused by the positions they advocate, even though pro-life-related gaffes by pro-lifers are much more damaging than the ordinary kind. That ambivalence is caused by the fervency.

I watched a bit of this year's Democratic Convention, and it might as well have been a salespersons' convention. Snicker if you want - I did - but it does show that the Dems have a good idea of what kind of enthusiasm works in politics. So do the Republicans. The kind of fervency that benefits the cause is some kind of rally-ho. Other kinds of fervency tend to be off-putting.

A lot of ordinary liberals delight in unveiling put-downs, and I'm still wondering why it hasn't been hurting the Dems. Americans are legendary for responding to a putdown with the flying finger.

Although putdowns are more lethal politically in the long term, it's also a turnoff to come across as a yeller. People hate putdowns, but they don't like being yelled at either. Fervency that comes across as yelling will not be greeted with open arms and stoutened hearts - except amongst those who are already part of the faithful. The only exception to this rule is an "official victim" group. Regardless of how true Evangelicals have been treated - and I know they've been treated badly - they don't get the bye unless they get the designation. As of now, they haven't.

I'm throwing these opinions out as points to ponder.

106 posted on 11/09/2012 7:31:59 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: ravager

“I am done you.”

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Yeah, it would be so easy to attack you and your minority ethnicity in the same way you attack me and my Christianity. But I haven’t and I won’t. So you lie when you spew crap like conservatives are “low lives like you who wear the “conservative” badge, spit on other ethnicities and then vote for the enemy.”

I told you once, and I’ll tell you again. I didn’t know you were non-white. And frankly, I don’t care. I don’t even care you are anti-Christian. But the more you post, the more you smell like a troll.

In before the zot, pal.


107 posted on 11/09/2012 7:38:56 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Hey pal, try reading my posts again or get help if English isn't your strong point.

I wasn't spewing against conservatives. I was spewing against the Evangelicals who voted Obama or did not vote.....and their apologist like you. You can be Evangelist, Catholic, Protestant, Mormon, Bahai or Hare Krishna.....if you have not voted for Romney you cannot claim to be a conservative. End of the story. Just being Christian isn't good enough.

Read my post correctly before wasting my time with your race baiting nonsense.

108 posted on 11/09/2012 7:54:13 PM PST by ravager
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To: Iam1ru1-2; All
Per PEW Forum -- http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx -- only 12% of the voting pool were religiously unaffiliated...

At over 120 million votes -- we'll probably wind up with 123-124 mil, that's over 9 million voters...But Obama got over 61 million -- and will probably wind up with 63 or more million when the counting's done.

So who were the religious voters that gave Obama well past 50 million votes????

OK, I recrunched the #s and saw that I was overemphasizing white non-evangelical mainline Protestant #s...Below are all round #s...and equal about 51.5 million...but it's over 52 million total...

Approximate votes going Obama's way from religious voters:

* Latino Catholics (5% of voting pool): Over 4.5 million votes
* White Catholics (18% of voting pool): By the time's all counted, perhaps 10 million votes
* Other Catholic (2% of voting pool): Over 1 million votes
TOTAL CATHOLIC CONTRIBUTION: Over 15.5 million votes

* Jewish (2% of voting pool) - Over 1.5 million votes

* Other non-Christian faiths (7% of voting pool): Over 5.5 million votes
* Lds (2% of voting pool): Almost half a million votes

* Black Protestant (9% of voting pool) - By time it's all been counted, over 11 million voters
* White Mainline Protestant (14% of voting pool) - About 8 million voters by time it's all been counted
* White Evangelicals (24% of voting pool, rounded off) - About 6 million voters once they've all been counted ... about 5.6 million of earlier 120 million vote count ... iow, the #s Rosenberg was using for his article...
* Latino Evangelicals (Little over 1% of voting pool) - Less than a million voters
* Other minority Christian or Protestant (4% of voting pool) (Guessing 2.5 million voters)
TOTAL PROTESTANT CONTRIBUTION: About 28.5 million

Now, Protestants are 51% of voting pool; Catholics are 25% of voting pool...so we would expect for every Catholic vote, there would be 2 Protestant votes...

Had Protestants voted for Obama the same rate as Catholics, the total above would be over 31 million -- not 28.5 million...

109 posted on 11/09/2012 8:04:48 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: All
Religious minorities made the biggest difference % wise...
I estimate Obama got at least 26 million votes from religious minorities -- compared to perhaps less than 9 million for Romney...

White religious voters probably contributed close to 25 million votes to Obama...

What's "funny" in all of this...is that all the people that didn't want to talk about the religious make-up of the Mormon candidate suddenly want to talk about the religious make-up of certain voter segments!!!

(And here I thought "religion" was "out of bounds" to these posters!)

110 posted on 11/09/2012 8:18:53 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Btw I can tell you are itching to use my race against me. So let me just give you the ammo you are looking for.

I belong to this ethnicity.....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2944434/posts

And remember the producer of the movie “2016: Obama’s America”....Dinesh D’Souza? The same ethnicity. Now go ahead bash me all you want. Bring it on Mr Evangelist.

111 posted on 11/09/2012 8:26:24 PM PST by ravager
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To: Utmost Certainty

You people puzzle me, voters with your religious attitude vote about 75% Obama, and Evangelicals voted 79% (according to PEW) for Romney.

You look at those figures, and you attack the most republican voting block in America?

This is “beam me up Scotty” stuff.


112 posted on 11/09/2012 8:29:01 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: Mr Fuji
Plenty of people on this board love to trash Catholics, even the ones who vote Republican - Conservative

(Truth isn't 'trash')

113 posted on 11/09/2012 8:32:25 PM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: ravager
Now we all know what kind voted Obama.

Yes we do, people of color, the non-religious, the anti-Christian, all are solid, dependable, pro-Obama voting blocks.

Who were the most pro-Romney voters in America? The Evangelicals, with 79%.

114 posted on 11/09/2012 8:34:11 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Rather than attacking the most conservative group who voted more for Romney than any other Christian group you should be asking the rest of the so-called Christians to vote like the vast majority of evangelicals.

As for the attempt to charge evangelicals with poor turnout, polling data from The Faith and Freedom Coalition, an organization in Duluth, Ga., dedicated to educating and mobilizing people of faith to be effective citizens, revealed that the evangelical vote increased to 27 percent this year, with 78 percent of them voting for Romney and 21 percent for Obama. http://www.citizenlink.com/2012/11/08/surveys-evangelical-electorate-vote-increases/


115 posted on 11/09/2012 8:39:08 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Mr Fuji

A lot of democrat voting blocks get criticized by the conservatives, but it isn’t directed at the individual members of those liberal groups.


116 posted on 11/09/2012 8:39:33 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

How did the atheist vote go this election?


117 posted on 11/09/2012 8:45:14 PM PST by stillonaroll
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To: TigerClaws

I know what you mean I flagged a couple of Hare Krishna threads, a Scientology thread, and six Islam threads, and the mods wouldn’t pull them.

People were calling them cults and revealing their religious doctrines to the public for open discussion.


118 posted on 11/09/2012 8:46:33 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: ravager
Btw I can tell you are itching to use my race against me.

There's your Race Card again. No one knew you aren't white and no one cares that you aren't. You're the only one bringing it up. You're the race baiter.

119 posted on 11/09/2012 8:48:43 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: stillonaroll; Utmost Certainty

We don’t have the actual (pure)atheist vote, but in even this economy, the “religiously unaffiliated”, voted republican by 26%.


120 posted on 11/09/2012 8:50:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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