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Obama effort to strip constitutional gun rights may start American Civil War
The Examiner ^ | November 16, 2012 | Kevin Fobbs

Posted on 11/16/2012 5:18:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Are you ready to wake up in an America where your family is defenseless against enemies foreign or domestic? This reality is right around the corner. A day after his reelection, Barack Obama signaled the United Nations that he is ready to sign an Arms Treaty to strip you of your U.S. Second Amendment Constitutional right to bear arms.

This is not new. The United Nations made earlier attempts during the administration of former President George W. Bush. But, President Bush soundly rejected the measure. Now, President Obama, fresh off of this presidential win, feels emboldened to go forward with his design to unilaterally dismember the guaranteed constitutional protections citizens of this nation are entitled to.

Do you feel comfortable with the idea that the U.S. State Department under the control of either Ambassador Hillary Clinton will truly represent your interest? What about her possible replacement nominee, America’s United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice? This is the same Ambassador Rice’s who went on five television network shows to cover up the truth of what happened to four Americans murdered on 9/11 in Benghazi, Libya.

Where does that leave Americans?

The real question is what are you prepared to do in order to defend your right to defend your family? Will you wait to see what happens? Or will you take the necessary steps to make certain that you will not have to wait and see if United Nations gun control officials knock at your door, demanding, and “Gun license and registration, please!”

The right to control your guns is not open for debate or for negotiation. It is a sovereign right that no foreign organization, including the United Nations has the right or the authority to undertake, because a president gives the go ahead....

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; bhofascism; bloodoftyrants; cwii; deadjackbootswalking; democrats; donttreadonme; govtabuse; guncontrol; liberlafascism; molonlabe; obama; policestate; susanrice; tyranny; unitednations; youwillnotdisarmus
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1 posted on 11/16/2012 5:18:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
will you take the necessary steps to make certain that you will not have to wait and see if United Nations gun control officials knock at your door, demanding, and “Gun license and registration, please!”

They're out of luck. All my guns and ammo were lost in a tragic boating accident...

2 posted on 11/16/2012 5:22:11 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Obama signs it, that is directly impeachable.

Of course, nobody would impeach him, but it would still be constitutionally impeachable.

A LOT of people... maybe into the thousands or tens of thousands will have to literally die because of Obama’s blatant incompetence before anyone will have the guts to remove him from office.


3 posted on 11/16/2012 5:23:13 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Old Sarge

I guess there are a multitude of lake/pond bottoms chuck full of lost guns and amo. ;-)


4 posted on 11/16/2012 5:26:20 PM PST by doc1019
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sign on the door at a local gun shop. SeeBS Channel 5 in Phoenix really has their Huggies in a wad over this.

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5 posted on 11/16/2012 5:26:29 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We need Comprehensive Election Reform, NOW!)
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To: Old Sarge

Yep

And I will never get over the awful out house accident. They can go get them if they want


6 posted on 11/16/2012 5:27:53 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Safrguns

Remember, the President cannot unilaterally sign a treaty. Treaties require the approval of the senate. The examiner article is nothing more than blatant fear mongering.


7 posted on 11/16/2012 5:27:59 PM PST by Melas (u)
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To: Old Sarge

I know, I was there with you in that airboat and lost every gun I owned. At least we got that gator, though...


8 posted on 11/16/2012 5:29:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Melas

Doesn’t the next senate have a Democrat majority? Isn’t Harry Reid still the ramrod?


9 posted on 11/16/2012 5:30:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe it would require more than a simple majority vote to ratify.


10 posted on 11/16/2012 5:33:56 PM PST by Oklahoma
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IIRC...it takes a 2/3 majority to approve a Treaty.


11 posted on 11/16/2012 5:34:42 PM PST by digger48
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To: Old Sarge

I’ll give em mine one bullet at a time...


12 posted on 11/16/2012 5:35:14 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For a while now I have been predicting that there will be a second civil. At least I am not alone.


13 posted on 11/16/2012 5:36:08 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

BTTT!!


14 posted on 11/16/2012 5:39:22 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: digger48

They have so-called Republicans like Lindsey Graham, John McCain and Scott Brown.


15 posted on 11/16/2012 5:41:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Biggirl

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


16 posted on 11/16/2012 5:42:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Melas
Treaties require the approval of the senate.

You mean the 'Harry Reid' Senate? Think about that; it's not fear mongering, it's appropriate concern!

17 posted on 11/16/2012 5:42:25 PM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Safrguns

He’s a coward. Get enough people marching in Washington and he would back down.


18 posted on 11/16/2012 5:42:59 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What army, the UN? Really now.


19 posted on 11/16/2012 5:43:41 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Melas

The Dems have a 55-45 majority in the Senate, which the legislative body that approves/disapproves treaties.


20 posted on 11/16/2012 5:45:11 PM PST by mohresearcher
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To: liberalh8ter

McConnell has our back. /s


21 posted on 11/16/2012 5:46:22 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Old Sarge
They're out of luck. All my guns and ammo were lost in a tragic boating accident...

Don't you, and others, ever tire of that stupid comment? It's been beaten to death over the years--yes: years--on FR.

It's neither clever or new.

22 posted on 11/16/2012 5:49:38 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

Dittos to that ‘Poss.


23 posted on 11/16/2012 5:56:45 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trying to seize firearms from the law-abiding public would definitely be the crisis.

Abe reminds us from "the other side."

You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

Obama is a biological-ideological issue of the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats -- and illegal drugs, BTW.

I hope the military lead the hostilities.. most likely due to the separate crisis of Obama Administration scapegoating the military to a point where there are confrontations at the highest level.. leading to violence between the Obama civilians and America's military.

Let's just get it over with.. it is going to happen don't leave it for the children again(!).. enough already with the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brat Establishment's New Normal


24 posted on 11/16/2012 5:58:18 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mmmmm, gator tail...


25 posted on 11/16/2012 6:00:35 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Melas

There are not 67 votes in the Senate for this POS treaty. Its not going to happen but be sure to email or call your senators anyway and let them know its totally unacceptable.


26 posted on 11/16/2012 6:02:09 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: OldPossum

I gave mine away to the homeless.... :)


27 posted on 11/16/2012 6:02:28 PM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Steve Newton

I actually did drop a toy gun down an outhouse hole. Almost made me cry. And I don’t remember exactly how it happened.

As for real guns and people who don’t think they’re registered. In 1976 I bought a .357 magnum at a Western Auto Store. (I was becoming a cop.) A few months later I left the “cop business” and sold the gun to a deputy sheriff. About 2 years later I got a call from the ATF wanting to know if I still owned the gun. I told them I had sold it and they wanted to know to whom. I told them I didn’t remember his name but he was a deputy in Craighead County. I then asked if the gun had been used in the commission of a crime. They told me it had but wouldn’t tell me what type of crime. I never heard from them again. So, as soon as they got their hands on the gun they knew who had bought it and where.


28 posted on 11/16/2012 6:04:02 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: driftdiver
Yeah, turtle won't pull into his shell and wait for it to blow over. He'll stand strong ::eye roll::
29 posted on 11/16/2012 6:04:37 PM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.

Seems fitting it ends with the Colonists demanding to be disarmed. :)


30 posted on 11/16/2012 6:07:58 PM PST by Tzimisce (Will there be anything to fight for in 2016?)
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To: Melas

You’re talking like the constitution still applied.

It’s gone.


31 posted on 11/16/2012 6:08:10 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: driftdiver

I’m thinkin’ the next march would be a bit different than the 0bamacare march.


32 posted on 11/16/2012 6:09:51 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: OldPossum
Don't you, and others, ever tire of that stupid comment?

It's a required reply to any FR gun confiscation related thread.

Some other mandatory FR responses:

"Are you logged in?" in response to any computer help related thread.

A picture of Helen Thomas in response to any attractive female thread.

A picture of a bunny with a pancake on it's head in response to any thread that doesn't make sense.

33 posted on 11/16/2012 6:10:25 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder if Obamagabe knows there are over 60 million armed citizens with billions of rounds of ammunition. I wonder if he’d know or realise that perhaps, maybe, the military will side with the civilians. Just wondering.


34 posted on 11/16/2012 6:11:32 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The constitution only requires 2/3 of the members PRESENT to ratify a treaty. Don’t need 67 senators...


35 posted on 11/16/2012 6:11:43 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared.....for what's coming AFTER America.)
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To: OldPossum

I post to p!ss you off...


36 posted on 11/16/2012 6:15:52 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Yo-Yo

You forgot the manatee photos, hippos, Hindenburgs and Pitt Bulls.


37 posted on 11/16/2012 6:16:36 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mark


38 posted on 11/16/2012 6:17:23 PM PST by sport
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To: Georgia Girl 2

As much as I hate to admit it, Richard Lugar would support this before his Democrat successor will


39 posted on 11/16/2012 6:17:34 PM PST by digger48
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To: Georgia Girl 2

As much as I hate to admit it, Richard Lugar would support this before his Democrat successor will


40 posted on 11/16/2012 6:17:34 PM PST by digger48
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To: Melas; 2ndDivisionVet; All
Obama is an evil communist dictator and has already bypassed Congress many times including with that executive order granting Amnesty and this: this is how this villain Obama will try to take our guns away using this method when it bypassed Congress to sign ACTA wich will allow the censoring of the Internet.

In signing ACTA, President Barack Obama has again leapfrogged over the U.S. Constitution, critics charge. The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) was signed by the United States and several other countries on October 1 with little fanfare.
In wake of the recent uproar (and subsequent shelving) of the proposed United States’ bills SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) and PIPA (Protect IP Act), however, many Americans are now turning their fears toward ACTA.
This is not surprising, as critics say that ACTA would censor the Internet even more severely than either SOPA or PIPA would have done.

According to Forbes:

Few people have heard of ACTA… but the provisions in the agreement appear quite similar to – and more expansive than – anything we saw in SOPA. Worse, the agreement spans virtually all of the countries in the developed world, including all of the EU, the United States, Switzerland and Japan.

And this treaty would trump all local and national laws.
Which is part of the reason critics, constitutional scholars, and one Senator is challenging Obama’s constitutional right to sign this treaty.
Obama claims that he signed it as an “executive agreement” which does not require Congressional approval. However, everyone else categorizes it as a treaty, which does require such approval.

http://digitaljournal.com/article/318690

41 posted on 11/16/2012 6:18:51 PM PST by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: SkyDancer

Oh, there are more than 60 million armed Americans, or were you just counting the South?


42 posted on 11/16/2012 6:19:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Last I heard but you never know who’ll jump up and be counted. Since I’m home now make that one more civilian with a gun.


43 posted on 11/16/2012 6:23:36 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

44 posted on 11/16/2012 6:24:39 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; et al

Sorry Claire, its time to shun them until you can shoot ‘em.


45 posted on 11/16/2012 6:34:00 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (That Queer Kenyan muzzy bastard is not my president. ENFORCE the Bill of Rights.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
270,000,000 guns in CIVILIAN hands in the U.S.

3,054,553 guns in U.S. MILITARY hands.

897,400 guns in LAW ENFORCEMENT hands in U.S.

Data from 2007.

46 posted on 11/16/2012 6:34:27 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Melas
Treaties require the approval of the senate.

Oh great!
47 posted on 11/16/2012 6:34:49 PM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
You forgot the manatee photos, hippos, Hindenburgs and Pitt Bulls.

And Catherine Zeta Jones
48 posted on 11/16/2012 6:37:16 PM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: Safrguns

If Obama signs it, that is directly impeachable.

No, it is an act of Treason.


49 posted on 11/16/2012 6:39:24 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“SeeBS Channel 5 in Phoenix really has their Huggies in a wad over this.”

I sincerely hope so. When the war starts, these whores should be priority one targets. They are the enemy.


50 posted on 11/16/2012 6:39:50 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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