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Why GOP won't challenge Voter Fraud
Fellowship of the Minds ^ | 11/16/2013 | Chrisnj

Posted on 11/16/2012 8:43:43 PM PST by chrisnj

Why GOP won't challenge Voter Fraud.

The Republican Party made an agreement 30 years ago with the Democrat Party NOT to ensure voting integrity and NOT to pursue suspected vote fraud. ......... more in the link

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; concerntroll; fraud; ibtz; ntsa; stfu; voter
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To: kiryandil

What did them in this year is EARLY VOTING. That allows someone to vote on the first day and then figure out how to vote again on the following days.


81 posted on 11/18/2012 8:44:16 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip; nascarnation
I'd posted this link, yesterday. Early voting didn't just allow them to vote early and often, but gave the fraudsters time to manipulate the votes, IMO. As I've speculated before...it's why 0 repeatedly gave the *signal* to *early vote*.

Something is definitely fishy in....FL, OH, PA, VA....
And, as nascar asks...where are the freaking investigations?

82 posted on 11/18/2012 9:05:59 AM PST by Jane Long ("Miss me yet?" - Mitt)
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To: Jane Long

If our elected Republicans in a position of authority won’t fight, what possibility do we have as citizens? Not much I’m afraid.


83 posted on 11/18/2012 9:41:50 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: chrisnj; humblegunner

You are committing the worst form of blog pimping. You are only posting a few lines from the article, scarcely even an excerpt.


84 posted on 11/18/2012 9:49:27 AM PST by Lazamataz (Abandon all hope.)
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To: kiryandil

You are comparing a special election with a flawed democratic candidate, an election where even a good number of democrats felt like they shouldn’t be doing a recall election, and after a contentious democrat primary where the liberal-favored candidate lost, to a presidential election with an incumbent president.

In Virginia, in 2009, our Governor won 58-41%. In 2010, republicans won 8 of 11 house seats. In 2011, GOP candidates to 58% of the vote to 40% for democrats.

And in 2012, Obama beat Romney and democrat Kaine beat Allen.

You can’t compare state races to federal races. People simply use different criteria.

Obama won by 200,000 votes. You actually think that the Democrats were able to fake 200,000 votes and not get caught? Seriously?


85 posted on 11/18/2012 6:05:58 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Obama won by 200,000 votes. You actually think that the Democrats were able to fake 200,000 votes and not get caught? Seriously?

Yes. It's amazing what the national campaign "walking-around money" can buy.

Couple that with the fact that the Democrats can cheat in "minority precincts" with impunity (consent decree), and there you have your 200,000 votes with ease.

86 posted on 11/18/2012 6:15:54 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: chrisnj
Voter ID is a fraud. In addition to spawning lawsuits, it doesn't work.

When either of the parties feels the need to improve election integrity, two steps will be taken:

First, have each voter leave a thumbprint next to his signature.

Second, make a video recording of all poll entrances and exits.

87 posted on 11/18/2012 6:17:34 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
Second, make a video recording of all poll entrances and exits.

That's a felony.

And besides, it violates the consent decree, and would get another 10-15 years tacked on to the "inner city fraudulent vote jammed down your throat" sentence.

88 posted on 11/18/2012 6:23:06 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: chrisnj
But you have one district with 7 registered voters and over 900 votes.
Many areas voting 159% capacity.
Many areas going 100% for one candidate which is truly impossible.

Why isn't this looked into?

89 posted on 11/18/2012 6:27:21 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: kiryandil

Are you saying that the state cannot take videos of the outside of their polling places?

Show me, please.


90 posted on 11/18/2012 6:32:53 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
http://www.justice.gov/usao/cac/Pressroom/2012/155.html

Federal law protects against such crimes as intimidating or bribing voters, buying and selling votes, altering vote tallies, stuffing ballot boxes, and marking ballots for voters against their wishes or without their input. Federal law also contains special protections for the rights of voters and provides that they can vote free of intimidation or harassment. For example, actions of persons designed to interrupt or intimidate voters at polling places by questioning or challenging them, or by photographing or videotaping them, under the pretext that these are actions to uncover illegal voting may violate federal voting rights law.

91 posted on 11/18/2012 6:39:12 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

So, how do you suggest we could stop 200,000 fake votes in Wisconsin? What thing could we do that would catch this, that we are not doing now.

Specifically, by what manner do you think they got 200,000 votes that aren’t real voters?


92 posted on 11/18/2012 6:50:33 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: kiryandil
Here's an article that deals with the DOJ's concern about private parties videotaping voters:

Link

The DOJ expresses the concern in that article that the GOP wanted to use cameras to intimidate voters. I think that the state governments have broader interests in security at public polls than private parties who in fact may want to intimidate voters.

Have you found anything that prevents the use of security cameras by the state outside polling places?

93 posted on 11/18/2012 7:00:10 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: kiryandil

I suspect it’s similar to firearms at polls. While I believe it would be inappropriate for private parties to be lurking about bearing firearms (because that might very well be intimidating), I don’t think that there would be anything inappropriate about having an armed law enforcement officer on the premises. I think the state has broader interests and greater leeway than private parties.


94 posted on 11/18/2012 7:11:39 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Obama won by 200,000 votes. You actually think that the Democrats were able to fake 200,000 votes and not get caught? Seriously?

Gee, I guess I should give you some hard Wisconsin numbers to think about.

Looking at the drop in Obama voters from 2008 to 2012, it was pretty consistent. Obamabots were definitely LESS than enthused. Most of the counties showed a pretty steady drop to between 88%-92% of the 2008 vote.

HOWEVER, in certain counties, the Obama vote count took a bottle of Viagra. These certain counties were centered around Dane (within about an hour's drive), and on the Illinois-Wisconsin border up through Milwaukee on the lakeshore.

I took the counties that had 97% or greater (from 2008) turnout and dialed them back to 94%, and got 67,000 votes right off the bat.

I didn't even look at Sheboygan or Ozaukee, even though there was vote fraud hanky-panky reported in Sheboygan County:

http://www.facebook.com/SheboyganGop.passionate.pachyderms

http://mediatrackers.org/2012/11/06/massive-obama-gotv-effort-underway-in-milwaukee-with-illinois-buses/

http://mediatrackers.org/2012/11/06/federal-job-corps-vans-used-to-bus-voters-in-wisconsin/

95 posted on 11/18/2012 7:46:24 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

So, you are arguing that it isn’t possible that independents and more suburban voters became less enthusiastic for Obama, while the poor minority masses in the big cities still loved him about as much as they did in 2008?

The entire point of the Obama campaign was to give up independents, and instead play a “base election” strategy, where they spent hundreds of millions of dollars targeting messages to that base, and then running get-out-the-vote.

Sure, a lot of us were seeing the independents swing over, and the general lack of enthusiasm, and held out hope. But having a child in an inner city college now, I got to see first-hand what the DNC was up to, and I have no problem believing that they managed to get turnout in their base areas in the cities that matched the 2008 numbers.

Every time my daughter and I walked through the campus, at least one person asked if she was registered. The weekend before the election, they were going door-to-door in her dorm, double-checking everybody and making sure people had rides to the polls.

Your linked articles actually give you the information about the GOTV work. I think some people get hung up on the “Illinois bus” use, as if bringing a bus from another state to use for GOTV is proof that they are busing people in from a neighboring state.

I don’t discount the possibility that someone ran a big-ticket scam with out-of-state voters. But we need actual evidence, or else it’s just conjecture.

It’s almost two weeks now, and every day there are a dozen threads, and they all just repeat the same inferences, and nobody has got any actual facts that are useful.

Why couldn’t ONE enterprising person get into a group of these voters, to see if they actually were bussed back to their own state?

What I’m saying is there’s no way they bussed 200,000 people from Illinois. If you were trying to sell a 20,000 vote fraud, I’d entertain the notion.

BTW, if fraud is so easy, why isn’t anybody in the GOP doing it? Well, the democrats are convinced we were, and they have the same threads we have, except about how GOP people were doing what they are being accused of in our threads.

And they have no evidence either.


96 posted on 11/18/2012 8:54:50 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
BTW, if fraud is so easy, why isn’t anybody in the GOP doing it? Well, the democrats are convinced we were, and they have the same threads we have, except about how GOP people were doing what they are being accused of in our threads.

Because the Democrat media would be ALL OVER IT, like white on rice.

What I’m saying is there’s no way they bussed 200,000 people from Illinois. If you were trying to sell a 20,000 vote fraud, I’d entertain the notion.

There's these things called "computers" that can tell you who you need to "vote". If you have blanket immunity from the other side investigating your fraudulent votes, you can use your little computer lists, and happily vote all fracking day long in your protected precincts with phony bodies.

The Sheboygan County reports were all about this, and Sheboygan is well north of the state line.

One thing I would investigate is if the vote totals in Illinois counties near the border dropped from 2008 to 2012, for a couple of reasons. They may have covered that issue with vote-fixing in the home precincts, but that's a fair amount of work for a state you already have sewed up. The bodies would be gone voting in Wisconsin.

I got to see first-hand what the DNC was up to, and I have no problem believing that they managed to get turnout in their base areas in the cities that matched the 2008 numbers.

The same logic should apply in their home Illinois base areas. I'm wondering if the 200,000 overkill was because they were unsure of the numbers Romney was going to turn out. We can see he bested Walker's numbers handily. Even though you propose that a state election is different than a federal election, THIS state election was different-different in itself. It was a "broken-glass-get-rid-of-the-Evil-Republican" election.

97 posted on 11/18/2012 10:03:55 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

The final RCP Poll average for Wisconsin was Obama by +4.2, with Romney having 46.2% and Obama 50.4%.

The vote total was Romney 46.1% and Obama 52.8. So the 2% undecided broke for Obama.

So the 200,000 extra votes they manufactured, they also were able to manufacture them in the polling data as well.

There were maybe 10 polls in the entire election cycle that had Romney ahead in Wisconsin. If you throw out Rasmussen, nobody showed Romney winning Wisconsin, except for one week in August. And a graph of the polling data showed Obama had momentum the last week.

There is nothing indicating massive voter fraud in these numbers. Your assertion otherwise is based on the results of a special election with different candidates — you simply can’t compare elections in that way and expect to get rational results.

I pointed out how republicans have been sweeping Virginia, EXCEPT in federal statewide elections, where we get creamed in senate and presidential elections.


98 posted on 11/19/2012 10:20:18 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
There is nothing indicating massive voter fraud in these numbers. Your assertion otherwise is based on the results of a special election with different candidates — you simply can’t compare elections in that way and expect to get rational results.

My analysis is quite different. The state campaign to recall Walker simply ran out of money to pay off the fraudulent voters, and the vote shepherds.

Obama's national campaign didn't have that problem. Since the Republicans won't follow the money trail, we must assume they know about it, and refuse to act.

We know the media will never bother to even look into it.

99 posted on 11/19/2012 9:46:57 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: CharlesWayneCT
In Virginia, in 2009, our Governor won 58-41%. In 2010, republicans won 8 of 11 house seats. In 2011, GOP candidates to 58% of the vote to 40% for democrats.

And in 2012, Obama beat Romney and democrat Kaine beat Allen.

You can’t compare state races to federal races. People simply use different criteria.

This isn't a data point. The Walker recall election WAS a data point - June of 2012, 5 months before the Selection.

Looking at this (and your VA thingees) also suggests that the Democrat Party and the media (but I repeat myself...) use the fog and tumult around the nation election to exploit their protected vote factory "sanctuaries" to the max.

As I said, it isn't like the media will uncover this for you. "You'll never eat lunch in this town again", I believe the expression goes. In the "jernalism" community, that goes on a national scale - AND you can forget about ever getting a "book deal" payoff for the rest of your life.

Plus, this is MUCH more important than trivialities like Benghazi or Fast and Murderous. We saw how the media was willing to go to the wall for those blaring klaxons of Obama incompetence.

No, this is for NATIONAL power - who gets to dole out the small chunks of cheese stolen at gunpoint from your paycheck, while hacking a great big fat Wagyu steak out for themselves.

The Republican Party is fighting unarmed, and they have been for years. They can't admit it, because their money stream would dry up. They have to bluff it out until they can get the federal judges off their neck, but I think that's just a pipe dream.

Now I think we know where the expression "if it isn't close, they can't cheat" came from.

This new "changing demographics" mantra is a smokescreen to cover up the fact that even if it ISN'T close, they can cheat - where it matters.

Democrats for the win!

100 posted on 11/20/2012 6:54:18 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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