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How can the House vote on anything Sunday evening? What happened to the "THREE DAY rule"?
one man's opinion.....

Posted on 12/29/2012 6:41:52 AM PST by ken5050

News reports say that Reid and McConnell are going to work through the weekend to try ad reach a deal. House members have been called back to the Capitol,and the House is scheduled to meet Sunday evening. All this is designed to possibly get a bull that Obama can sign Monday morning, in order to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. But there's just one small problem, which nobody's talking about.. the House rule that mandates that no legislation can be passed until three days have passed, to allow for representatives, and the public, to read, understand, and comment on the contents of the bill.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 112th; fiscalcliff
This came about after the 2010 elections, when the GOP took control of the House. In the previous House, the Democrats had passed Obamacare with virtually nobody having time to read the bill, let alone understand what was in it.

Remember the travesty of then Speaker Pelosi deigning to tell we, the people, that "we have to pass the bill before we can know what's in it."

I would remind Boehner and the rest of the GOP leadership that is the main reason why she is now FORMER Speaker Pelosi.

If you want to follow her out the door, just go ahead and cram this through on Sunday.

We are facing a situation where the Senate will agree to a hideous bill, ( thanks, McConnell) and the Speaker of the House will bring it to the floor, and it will pass with all Democrat votes and maybe 10% of the GOP caucus.

And they are going to throw away their own vaunted reform rules to do so, the very promise of an open governance which is what led the American people to elect them in 2010.

This cannot be allowed to happen.

1 posted on 12/29/2012 6:41:58 AM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050

GOP=SQUISH


2 posted on 12/29/2012 6:42:34 AM PST by AdaGray
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To: ken5050
What happened to the "THREE DAY rule"?

"Rules" are for little people.

3 posted on 12/29/2012 6:44:36 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: ken5050

The cowards can’t do anything in the open any more.


4 posted on 12/29/2012 6:48:15 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: ken5050; All
The plan is for the Senate to vote on a bill the House already passed and vote on amendments.

The 3 day rule won't apply to the bill that was already passed.

5 posted on 12/29/2012 6:49:59 AM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: ken5050

“You have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it” - Pelosi


6 posted on 12/29/2012 6:49:59 AM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should post gun free zone signs on their property and persons.)
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To: ken5050
"Rules? We don' need no steenkeen' rules. "
7 posted on 12/29/2012 6:50:14 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: bmwcyle

next, a 60 foot high wall around Capitol Hill to protect them from the people ~


8 posted on 12/29/2012 6:50:45 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: RedMDer

Rules??? We don’t need no stinkin’ rules!


9 posted on 12/29/2012 6:51:02 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ken5050

Reid forced them to break the rule last year by stalling until a deadline came.

Making the Rs break their rule is a “two-fer” for Reid.


10 posted on 12/29/2012 6:51:22 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: ken5050

“Rules” like the “Law” is now time variant,
and applicable to some, not all.


11 posted on 12/29/2012 6:51:34 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: ken5050
All this is designed to possibly get a bull that Obama can sign Monday morning

Possibly a typo, or maybe a Freudian slip...either way very appropriate.

12 posted on 12/29/2012 6:53:12 AM PST by memyselfandi59
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To: newzjunkey

Ah, so technically they’re not breaking the rule if the name of the bill is the same even even though the language is completely different.

Reid only makes them break the spirit of the rule.


13 posted on 12/29/2012 6:56:52 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: memyselfandi59

I was about to post the same thing. A very truthful slip of the pen.


14 posted on 12/29/2012 6:56:53 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: newzjunkey

If they didn’t do it that way it would not pass Constitutional muster.


15 posted on 12/29/2012 7:06:06 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: memyselfandi59

A bull is a type of papal edict.

But your point is well taken, and probably more accurate!


16 posted on 12/29/2012 7:06:06 AM PST by Vesuvian
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To: ken5050

Hell they don’t even read stuff before they vote on it


17 posted on 12/29/2012 7:06:57 AM PST by bigbob
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To: ken5050

Haven’t you noticed that in the last 10 and especially the last four years, everybody in DC is above the law? They do what they want, regardless of its impact on the country or people. I would not be surprised if they held the vote by telephone with no recording of the individual votes, just Aye or Yeah allowed.


18 posted on 12/29/2012 7:09:36 AM PST by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: muawiyah

Escape from Congress, queue Snake.


19 posted on 12/29/2012 7:12:13 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: muawiyah

next, a 60 foot high wall around Capitol Hill, THEN fill it with water !!!!!


20 posted on 12/29/2012 7:16:56 AM PST by OHPatriot (It's time to party like it's 1096 AD.)
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To: ken5050
What?

Din't'cha' never try to figger out how you can go from Good Friday to Easter Sunday in three days?

21 posted on 12/29/2012 7:19:31 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: AdaGray
United States Constitution

Article I.

Section 7.

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

22 posted on 12/29/2012 7:20:50 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: ken5050

our government don’t need no steenkin’ rules


23 posted on 12/29/2012 7:31:04 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Diogenesis
“Rules” like the “Law” is now time variant, and applicable to some, not all.

As Levin likes to point out - "We are now in a post-Consitutional period" in America.
24 posted on 12/29/2012 7:31:40 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: muawiyah

next, a 60 foot high wall around Capitol Hill to protect them from the people ~


Have you been to the capitol bldg ? You can’t get near the chambers.


25 posted on 12/29/2012 7:37:10 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: muawiyah
Photobucket Coming soon.
26 posted on 12/29/2012 7:46:52 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: AdaGray

New boss same as old boss.
Bonehead promised transparency. He lied.


27 posted on 12/29/2012 7:48:21 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: ken5050

They can vote to suspend the rules.


28 posted on 12/29/2012 7:49:37 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ken5050
We have a need to know
29 posted on 12/29/2012 8:00:09 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: ken5050

Wait until these cowards manipulate their rules to pass FineSwine’s gun ban bill...will Boner have any backbone to stop it?


30 posted on 12/29/2012 8:02:46 AM PST by Wasichu
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To: ken5050

We are in this position because Boehner REFUSED to stand on principle during the last round of debt ceiling negotiations. Remeber that period? All of the TEA Party Conservatives in the House were bullied and browbeaten by the Republican Leadership into accepting the bad deal which has set up this showdown now. And they were bullied and browbeaten because the imagined geniuses in the GOP were CONVINCED Mitt Romney would never lose to a disaster like Barack Obama...but that’s a whole other story, especially since now we’ve discovered Romney never even wanted the job in the first place.

The House voted in August to solve this problem. They should go home. This embarrassing spectacle we’ve seen for the last month - Boehner negotiating with himself and playing the part of the Obama sock puppet - has been a disgrace. The Conservatives in the House - by rejecting the horrible Plan B - MADE Boehner stay true to the August vote. And look what’s happening as a result! It’s the DEMOCRATS and OBAMA who are now squirming, fearing a backlash on THEM if taxes go up. Now all of a sudden they’re willing to take “mini deals” and kick the can down further. All of this because the TEA Party in the House told Boehner to go “eff” himself. And thank G-d they did!!

So the story is clear - Boehner needs to be replaced. The whole House Leadership needs to be replaced. We need people to lead in the House who aren’t afraid to FIGHT.


31 posted on 12/29/2012 8:04:02 AM PST by antonico
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To: ken5050

Well, my guess is they have had an agreement for months but wanted the little people to sweat enough to agree to massive tax hikes. We are being played....


32 posted on 12/29/2012 8:04:30 AM PST by vet7279
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To: vet7279

And they are rolling out the skits in news stories this morning. Absolutely NOTHING that needs to be addressed in this nation will be covered by anyone’s scaled back, scaled up or scaled down fake cliff solution. A farce.


33 posted on 12/29/2012 8:09:20 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: ken5050
Just like ObamaCareScam, this will be another vote with the political "cover" of "we didn't have time to read the bill and SOMETHING had to be done". Anyone who didn't see this coming has been living under a rock for the last 4 years.

What really ticks me off - in speaking with my mother-in-law, who is quite removed from politics - only picking up what the network news says...

The "fiscal cliff" came up and she said "its those Republicans who won't do anything". I couldn't restrain myself (though I was very polite)... I said, the Republicans have put forward plan after plan, each time, drawing ever closer to what Obama demanded. Each time, he and Harry Reid said NO DEAL. I asked her two simple questions: "isn't negotiation about give-and-take? Isn't compromise about BOTH sides giving some so that you can meet somewhere in the middle?"

She said "I always thought so" -

I said that is exactly the point - The Republicans have proposed nearly all of what the President asked for - including tax increases, basically kicking the idea of spending cuts down the road... and the DEMOCRATS keep saying no. The president won't budget a penny. She looked very confused and started say something about "but they said on the news..."

I had to go hunting!

34 posted on 12/29/2012 8:15:20 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: maine yankee

Been all through the building ~ but I referred to Capitol Hill which includes all the office buildings where they keep their hidey holes.


35 posted on 12/29/2012 8:20:23 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ken5050
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The code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.

36 posted on 12/29/2012 8:29:44 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: ken5050

* RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

* RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”

http://www.bestofbeck.com/wp/activism/saul-alinskys-12-rules-for-radicals


37 posted on 12/29/2012 9:01:48 AM PST by PGalt
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To: memyselfandi59

” possibly get a bull that Obama can sign Monday morning, “

I might watch that on the news!


38 posted on 12/29/2012 9:33:18 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: ken5050

They will just “deem” that 3 days have passed...


39 posted on 12/29/2012 10:04:38 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: ken5050

Our retiring congressmen mentioned to the local paper that he didn’t think a vote was likely. He doesn’t have staff or offices in either DC or in the district. He didn’t think it was logistically possible.


40 posted on 12/29/2012 10:22:15 AM PST by EVO X
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To: ken5050

As much as this would suck, there is still a silver lining. The more Boehner pisses off other Repubs, the more likely it is that we’ll be able to get a new Speaker in :)


41 posted on 12/29/2012 10:31:33 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: bmwcyle
The cowards can’t do anything in the open any more.

The need for the 2nd amendment has never been clearer.

42 posted on 12/29/2012 11:30:43 AM PST by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history)
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To: IncPen

And the need to defend it either.


43 posted on 12/29/2012 11:41:21 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: maine yankee
Have you been to the capitol bldg ? You can’t get near the chambers.

News to me. I've been in both the House and the Senate Chambers. Did something change since 2000?
44 posted on 12/29/2012 12:33:38 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: newzjunkey

FYI..Roll Call has an article posted at 11 am, to the effect that the Rules Committee is meeting Sunday..to pass the “rule” for any new bill that comes out of an agreement. Thus is NOT voting on a bill that the House has already passed.


45 posted on 12/29/2012 12:48:32 PM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: TheBattman

— “but they said on the news...” ——

This is why the media is enemy #1. They make the Demcrimes possible. We have to boycott the network news advertisers.


46 posted on 12/29/2012 12:54:03 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: ken5050

That only applies to symbolic votes like honoring people.
It was never meant to apply to crises like this one and the debt limit.
If we go over the cliff then we all die, there will be no USA in 2013. You want to face that?
You didn’t actually believe them did you?


47 posted on 12/29/2012 7:55:49 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism: "We tried. We were foiled again"")
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