Skip to comments.Opinion on People who illegally park in Disabled Parking Spots
Posted on 01/07/2013 7:07:17 AM PST by BCW
This is what the State of Indiana Code states:
IC 5-16-9-5 Violations; Class C infraction and Class C misdemeanor Sec. 5. (a) Any person who parks a motor vehicle which does not have displayed a placard of a person with a physical disability or a disabled veteran, issued under IC 9-14-5 or under the laws of another state, or a registration plate of a person with a physical disability or a disabled veteran, issued under IC 9-18-18, IC 9-18-22, or under the laws of another state, in a parking space reserved under this chapter for a vehicle of a person with a physical disability commits a Class C infraction. (b) Any person who knowingly parks in a parking space reserved for a person with a physical disability while displaying a placard to which neither the person nor the person's passenger is entitled commits a Class C infraction. (c) Any person who displays for use in parking in a parking space reserved for a person with a physical disability a placard or a special license plate that was not issued under IC 9-14-5, IC 9-18-18, IC 9-18-22, or under the laws of another state commits a Class C misdemeanor. (d) A person who, in a parking space reserved for a person with a physical disability, parks a vehicle that displays a placard or special registration plate entitling a person to park in a parking space reserved for a person with a physical disability commits a Class C infraction if that person is not, at that time, in the process of
transporting a person with a physical disability or disabled veteran. (e) Notwithstanding IC 34-28-5-4(c), a civil judgment of not less than fifty dollars ($50) must be imposed for an infraction committed in violation of this section.
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...just wanted to see what others opinion is to this - maybe I'm being too sensitive???
No you are not, if they are parked illegally.
Before you get mad make sure they are.
Talk to the school office about the issue and remind them to remind parents who those spots are for.
Don’t do this much in New Jersey. The fine is $250 plus $35 court costs as a court appearance is required.
Second offense is $250 plus community service.
Learned my lesson once although my husband was diabled, but I had not yet received the placard.
They love writing that ticket out here in CA...that’s gettin’ on to $300 last I checked.
No.. I don’t believe you are being insensitive especially if they have taken all the spaces. Personally, I would tap on their window and ask them to move since you have a handicap tag/sticker. If they refuse, nicely notify them you are notifying the police with their tag number. Perhaps the school administration can assist you with this. Sometimes people will “listen” to a school official vs another parent.
That being said, handicap stickers/tags have evolved into something it wasn’t intended for. For example, I know a fella (who is a lifeguard) that parks in handicap spaces all the time. He does have the placard you hang off your interior mirror. Why does he have it? Because he drives his handicapped Father once a month to a doctor. I will admit to parking in a handicap space once. I know.. shame, shame. However, my lower disc was bulging and I had great difficult walking (when this happens, I have to literally drag my left leg). I stopped at the store for some medications. Was it right? Probably not.
One day, I caught one of those handicap types parking
in one of our spots far from the store entrance.
I kicked her ass.
$50 seems a little to light... It should be more like $250. My mother is disabled and lives with us, but we don’t have a placard. We get her in and out of the car ourselves and push a wheelchair, so it’s not that big of a deal. I’d rather save those places for people who are disabled and drive and have no help. A real pet peeve of mine are the courtesy scooters at the grocery store. I’m very appreciative that they provide them. I could just push my mom in a wheelchair, but she loves riding about in a scooter if she can. The problem is all of the people who use them that have absolutely no reason for doing so. We’ve waited in the front of the store on many occasions waiting for a scooter, only to see punk thugs rolling around in them like they’re cruising the block. When they leave, I watch them just hop up and stroll out to their cars. Really angers me when people are so selfish and thoughtless.
Some states give out the permits to whoever asks. In those states, all the spots are always taken.
What is Indiana like?
I’ve gone to the school president - who e-mailed a certain number of parents - and put a single sentence in a 3 page newsletter...
I also went up to this person - told him to move - his reply was, “I’m waiting for my daughter to come out of the school - dropping my kids off - go park back there.” My tone in my voice showed that I wasn’t impressed...
These parents know full well that they aren’t suppose to be parking there - let along parking in that way that blocks both spots...I think it’s rude and demonstrated lack of respect for those that are truly disabled...and I fully understand the disc problem and left leg issue...but it wasn’t like you parked there and went skipping into the store singing some Disney song either...just wondering....thanks for your reply...
One day while I was at the post office, I noticed a car with a disabled tag hanging from the window pull into a handicapped parking space. A perfectly healthy young lady got out of her car and I yelled at her, "Hey, what do you think you're doing? That's for handicapped people," and I went over a punched her out.
Boy, was I embarrassed when her mother got out of the other side with her walker ...
Those inconsiderate idiots are indeed handicapped - mentally.
Those inconsiderate idiots are indeed handicapped - mentally.
You have to show proof - there’s a process and review...at least we had to - like DR. prescription and diagnoses from a qualified medical personnel with accompanying physical description...
Since it’s illegal in Indiana, call a cop!
I think you meant to answer me. No... didn’t skip at all. Took me about eight minutes to walk from the spot to the store. It fortunately was a one time event and to be honest.. at that point, I would have taken the ticket. It was that bad. I have another suggestion that I hope helps: contact your local police department and speak to the Sgt of the traffic division. Explain to him or her the issue and that it has been addressed by the school administration and is still being ignored. Request an officer to drive by one afternoon that week.
If the school administration has contacted the parents and you have verbally asked them to move their rude butts... perhaps it is time for a ticket. Have you ever noticed how people will watch their car speed AFTER radar has been set up on a certain road?
Mixed feelings here
NM allows you to use the spaces with a placard or special plate issued as handicap or disabled veteran
I parked beside a vehicle in a handicap space with a DV plate, I have a purple heart plate and wear a full leg prosthetic brace which causes me to walk like a lurching frankestein. Returning to my car, the wally world golf cart was blocking my car in and the attendant argued a purple heart plate was not legal, I asked her if she considered getting shot a disability. I told her to get bent and move her scooter before I backed over it. The driver with the disabled vet plate had come out, I asked him how and where he got wounded and he responded he gets the DV plate for PTSD. Just shook my head and left.
I am of several minds on this. I like the idea of having close up handicap parking, but the one-size-fits all federal mandates are stupid. Spots are mandated based on percentage of parking (rounding up) and have no relation to the activity in question.
For instance, a water skiing club is mandated the same percentage of spots as a geriatric physical rehab office.
It would also make sense to allow some normal “short term” parking up close for businesses such as dry cleaners. But quite often, if its a large parking lot, everything within 75’ of the door is given up to handicapped spots. It seems that I am always walking past a large number of empty handicap spots in otherwise packed parking lots.
This experience likely has many people thinking that they aren’t actually depriving those in need by momentarily taking a spot.
Per the theme of your question, people shouldn’t be parking in those spots unless they need them. If you are dealing with a limited number of people, perhaps you could print up some cards to slip under their wiper, stating why you need and use those spots. I imagine that would solve the problem. If not, have them ticketed.
Handicap parking spots are the only ones I observe, because they are law. The others have gone out of control. I routinely park in spots designated for “customers with children,” “high efficiency vehicle,” “compact car,” “expectant mothers,” “employee of the month,” and electric vehicle charging stations. I fully expect to one day see “Reserved for Anyone but White Males” parking spot designations.
Not being sensitive at all. I can’t stand it when I see some young person taking the spot and then jump out of the car to enter a store...so anoying and unfair to those that seriously need the space. I say the first offense 1000 dollars. The second 10000. The third 100,000 dollars. The fourth jail for 3 years. The fifth, jail for life. Yep that is how serious I find this problem.
thanks a lot. I’m disabled and I spit up my coffee laughing. Definitely joke of the day.
Why are there mandatory parking spaces in the first place? Where is it in the Constitution that the government shall make demands of private property or tell businesses how to run their parking lots? If businesses find disabled patrons want those parking spaces they can decide to provide them. Why is it that people with disabilities can park at a large complex like a mall but demand up front parking? Of all the people I can have seen parking in them maybe 0.0001% are actually people with real disabilities such as motorized chairs. The rest just get their doctor to write them the excuse to get the blue placard.
GMTA — hammer meets nail. You just saved me a bunch of typing and probably said it better, too!
lol. I love that. You are right...I am going to park in an expectant mother spot just for th heck of it.
The waiting deal is annoying.
(As a side note, go inside and get your child, said to the other parent)
Yet, if this person has a placard there is nothing you can do, if they don’t call to have them towed away.
I remember the old Gallagher joke, “I have nothing against handicapped people, if it wasn’t for them, I’d never find a parking spot.”
I was going to post the same but see you already did a heck of a job making clear the insanity of it all.
I worked with a woman who had one of those placards. I would see her car all the time in front of the gym where she worked out. I have no idea what she claimed as her handicap. Her office was two doors down from another person who was paralyzed and in a wheel chair. She had the nerve to park her car along side the paralyzed person's car.
I think there needs to be designated FB spots in the remotest part of the lots. I have a relative that’s a FB that just got a handicap placard. What he needs is the exercise.
Have you tried to approach the parent that does this? In a normal situation I wouldn't recommend doing this but since it is happening at church and it seems to be by the same offender, maybe putting a face with the vehicle will stop it from happening. I guess I'm advocating shaming them into stopping their despicable behavior.
My parents were both disabled and my mom refused to get a handicapped permit. She always felt it would be taking the spot from someone more disabled than she. Oh how I miss that beautiful woman.
Not in California.
The doctor has to fill out the form, and submit medical records if asked by the state.
So you do get it the same day you turn in all the paperwork, but handed out willy nilly - nope.
New in SC. Your drivers license pic is now on the handicap tag. If THAT person isn’t in the car when the tag is used, then the person is fined.
In your example, you seem to single out a single person, guilty of (perhaps) multiple infractions. Is this the case? If so, how many handicap parking spots are there? Are the rest legally being used?
If you have approached this person and explained your circumstances, and they still don't understand, you are right to escalate the matter. It appears the school president (principal), has taken some action, although ineffective. It may be possible that this person doesn't read those newsletters, as they appear to be out of touch with their surroundings.
That said, what would YOU suggest the school president do? Why don't you offer them al alternative solution? While they appear sympathetic to your needs, short of physically monitoring the parking spots for offenders, what else can they do? One of you--yourself or the school president--must appeal to this idiot's senses. Is there any type of security at the school...could they monitor the situation?
If nothing else works, perhaps your local law enforcement could look into it, though I don't know how aggressive they could be with parking enforcement on (what sounds like) private property.
Good luck to you.
I have to disagree with you on that one. Just because someone doesn't have a wheel chair doesn't mean they don't have difficulties. If I had a chair I could park at the back of the lot and not worry about whether I could make it to the front door or not.
There are days when I feel good enough to park anywhere and I do. Then there are days when I'm not sure I can get back inside the car once I step out of it. A visible, evident injury or wound should not be the only consideration for a parking placard. I've had people tell me I don't look disabled and I tell them they don't look ignorant. Looks can be deceiving.
First, make sure that the spots are fully legal. In a lot of places, painted indicators on the parking surface are not sufficient to make the spot enforceable; you need a sign on a post. If there is a sign on a post, it’s legally enforceable.
My wife has mobility issues and sees this a lot. People are always “just there for a minute.” If she has time, she pulls up behind them, blocking them in the spot, and then calls the police. The cops are ALWAYS happy for the ticket income.
If the lawbreakers become belligerent, she gets back on the phone with 911 and asks them to hurry up because she’s being threatened and she doesn’t want to have to use her firearm (Missouri has concealed carry). They usually shut up and get back in their car to wait for the cops.
Then there are the ones who park in the "fire lane" to run in for a coffee or to pick up a newspaper, or waiting for someone to come out of the store, etc etc etc. For those I call the cops with the plate number, these for some reason are low priority for cops. I've called the fire department and they say it's parking violation and a cop issue.
Sorry, that argument “you can tell”.
You can tell no such thing.
It is not possible to “look at someone and know”.
My Dad had a place card. You would have never known he was disabled.
He stood straight and walked flawlessly, that’s how it appeared anyway.
Yet, he was in extreme pain do to a broken back (four times) and fused discs as a result of war injuries, which make walking more than 20 feet or so painful for him.
So just because you think something doesn’t make it so.
And a person can park in the handicap spot to retrieve someone inside the store who needs the spot.
I’ve had people tell me I don’t look disabled and I tell them they don’t look ignorant. Looks can be deceiving.
lol. I like that.
I have lost count of the times I have seen an FB park in a hanicap spot, waddle to an electric cart and head straight for the Cheeto and Little Debbie aisles. I am not a dietician, but I do know that if calories in > calories burned, weight gain will occur. I think there should be designated parking for the fatties across the street and downhill from where they want to go.
At our Wal-Mart ( which I try & frequent as infrequently as possible) all of the parking spaces for the disabled are taken up by people who are not disabled, they just have a giant, fat *ss, and other parts & are too lazy to walk.
I think that people who park in handicapped spaces & are not handicapped are truly despicable.
A bullet through one knee and they can park there any time they want. In the meantime a stiff fine the first time and a month in the pokey with a violent cell mate the next.
Betcha that would make this a non-issue.
I suggest the jail time because I once met a very rich man with a nice Maserati sedan parked thusly. When I reprimanded him, warning I would call the police, he said; “OK, I’ll just pay the fine.”
IIRC, stupidity and lack of consideration are not covered by ADA. At least not yet.
You beat me to it ...My wife is disabled and I can let her out at the door and park anywhere but she goes in and there are no scooters but teen age boys racing down the aisles
I have a handicap plate because I have severe arthritis. Just before Christmas I was waiting to make a left turn into the only remaining handicap space at a local grocery when a young man in a Jeep made a right turn and took the space. He was obviously not handicapped and had no plate or sticker. I called the police. They showed up in less than 5 minutes and wrote him a ticket.
ROFL. +1 interwebs for you.
I fully understand the disc pain...and yes - I’ve sent in a report to the local police - I know the Chief...and I have photographs of the subject how he was parking - and is the best evidence to have in this situation...don’t have to worry about my word or his word — the pics show everything — the subject actually stated that if I didn’t stop with the pics - “Or else!” — so I stood there and said, “Well. here I am.” I think he was threatening me...geez...the local police are fully aware of this occurring all the time here...
I think the president of the school doesn’t want to say anything since my son is the ONLY disabled child in the school and he want tuition ($$$) more than doing what is right...and allows this to happen without thought...
Just how I view it...
Anybody want my opinion about people who have handicapped signs and placards who move around better then I do?
I didn’t think so.
Amen brother! Thanks for your service - and it’s guys like you that make me stand up for these spots!!!
True Story....I go shopping at grocery store and noticed the first two spots closest to the door were reserved for expectant mothers. I parked in the handicapped space #1. As I was getting ready to get out of the car a woman whipped in next to me in the expectant mothers spot, nearly hitting my door.She hopped out and she sure didnt look pregnant. After I got back to my car she came out behind me and I said Congratulations. About how long you been pregnant?? She quickly replied as she dropped into her Beemer, About 45 minutes and drove away. Unintended consequences, I guess.
Yeah, that’s what I mean. The docs will submit the forms for many medical conditions, and the state takes them at their word and issues the permits.....in some states.
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