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Left convinced Americans will not fight for 2nd Amendment rights
Coach is Right ^ | 1/7/13 | Doug Book

Posted on 01/07/2013 8:30:30 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

Once cowed at the thought of provoking 2nd Amendment supporters, leftists will soon attempt to ban “assault weapons” (and much more) as legislation offered by Diane Feinstein makes its way to the Senate floor. It seems that DC liberals have finally become convinced that American gun owners are too cowardly, too lazy or too dependent upon the financial "generosity" of Big Brother to fight for their 2nd Amendment rights.

During the past 4 years, the gun banning left have watched as American buyers broke sales records in the purchase of semi-automatic rifles. Opting for these and other powerful, efficient weapons it is estimated that some 100 million private citizens are now in possession of over 300 million firearms. And these numbers continue to grow with each passing month.

Yet it’s against this backdrop of America’s determination to assert the fundamental permanence of 2nd Amendment guarantees that Diane Feinstein, Michael Bloomberg, Barack Obama and others will choose to implement gun bans, demand the federal registration of...

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To: kosciusko51

The British declared martial law in the American Colonies.

But they could not stop the outcome, especially because they were operating over a great distance and the response time was so long.

Declaration of such a law and enforcing that declaration are two different things.

And liberals are notorious for failure to enforce their own laws on anything like a consistent basis.


51 posted on 01/07/2013 9:47:38 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I happen to live in a small town in Northern New England, too.

There are only a handful of towns and counties that are not in the hands of the DemonRAT-communists. The town offices, state legislatures and governors offices and congressional delegations of all the New England states are occupied by communists or communist sympathizers (a couple of RINOs).

The state and local police are dominated by the Unions (DemonRAT-communists). Even if they disagree with orders to disarm you, they will attempt to do so if so ordered, with very few exceptions. You can count on it.

You have to go north of Augusta to find any true constitutionalists in greater proportions than communists. And the communists still run the towns and counties through the unions.

I can’t predict with certainly how it will go, but I surmise that with few exceptions, most gun owners will comply with whatever regulations the commies make for them.


52 posted on 01/07/2013 9:48:49 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: JimRed

“Perhaps we can create a site map of the locations of RAT leaders, like the one that newsrag did on firearm licensees.”

An interesting idea. I like it.


53 posted on 01/07/2013 9:49:10 AM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: JimRed

...Perhaps we can create a site map of the locations of RAT leaders, like the one that newsrag did on firearm licensees...

Exactly what we need is an enemies of the Constitution list names, places, associates, where they eat, photographs of people, cars, license plates, houses etc let them feel the heat of their proposed illegal acts. A group in every state should be compiling a dossier on those in their area, don’t forget news media talking idiots and their CEO’s and advertisers. Do it now before the SHTF it might just stop their ill advised poorly thought out plans. Get a list of all registered Democrats for future reference. First Amendment can help save the Second.


54 posted on 01/07/2013 9:53:02 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: JDoutrider

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55 posted on 01/07/2013 10:01:44 AM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Redcloak

If every 10th raid kills a cop, the Left will run out of officers before they run out of targets. And this assumes universal cooperation from local and State law enforcement.


The raids will be electronic. The idea is to make everybody a criminal and then selectively enforce the law.


56 posted on 01/07/2013 10:02:33 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Oldpuppymax

With tens of thousands of firearms and millions of rounds of ammo flying off the shelves, We The People have extended a middle finger salute to the Socialist Democrats.

You WILL NOT disarm us!


57 posted on 01/07/2013 10:05:45 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Oldpuppymax; Travis McGee; Jack Black

Dear Mr. Security Agent: A letter to law enforcement



58 posted on 01/07/2013 10:08:23 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Westbrook
but I surmise that with few exceptions, most gun owners will comply with whatever regulations the commies make for them.

I disagree, but even if 90% comply, that leaves 10,000,000 with weapons that won't submit to unconstitutional laws.

There aren't that many cops and military in the US.

Logistics win and lose wars.

/johnny

59 posted on 01/07/2013 10:08:54 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: CottShop

People have a romantic view of what will go down. They dream, as every patriotic man has done since childhood, of a Red Dawn resistance. I’ve fantasized countless times of make a successful stand in the hills, repelling government forces, making raids on the tyrant’s strongholds. But, reality is much different. Some of the smartest, most cynical, well read, people the world has ever produced are currently, as I right this, working on how to do this. The culmination of years of planning are coming to fruition. They know how to deal with the scenarios discussed in this forum. It has to be organized or it will fail.

People are praising Ted Cruz for saying this is unconstitutional. Duh!

There is no political solution because there are no politicians offering a solution. They still think 0 wants to do what’s right but is failing because he lacks the correct paradigm. He is succeeding.


60 posted on 01/07/2013 10:10:52 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: aimhigh

“I agree, but with one concern. I think we’re going to see a media blitz unlike anything we’ve ever seen. And if another large shooting occurs, . . . well . . it’s over.”

The Left would instigate another massacre as an easy way to get what they want.


61 posted on 01/07/2013 10:10:52 AM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’ve been thinking Chicago may be where the martial law starts. Rahm will cooperate with Obama. The Vice Lords 50,000+ versus the citizens. It won’t take long to take over the city and spread out from there. It will be a bloodbath. Wish I could convince my sister, brother and 2 nieces to leave.


62 posted on 01/07/2013 10:19:53 AM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: Westbrook

I live in coastal Maine, WAY north of Augusta....Hancock County.

The Portland area of Maine is moonbat central. The police chief in Portland, and those that came before him, are hostile towards the second amendment.

Here in the northern half of Maine, people are armed to the teeth and I can’t see them giving up their firearms under any circumstances. I know some of the cops in these parts and while I can’t speak for all of them, I believe large numbers of the rural cops would be on the side of the people.

I’ve known conservatives who are, or were, in positions of authority in town offices and city councils. The moonbats seem to be concentrated in the high-priced coastal communities. There are a number of transplants from Massachusetts and New York....those are the ones to watch out for.

At least we have Paul LePage, a TEA Party guy, as Maine governor.


63 posted on 01/07/2013 10:21:04 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: MomwithHope

.....Or rather a second American civil war starts.


64 posted on 01/07/2013 10:30:08 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: lodi90
The raids will be electronic. The idea is to make everybody a criminal and then selectively enforce the law.

Passage of an unConstitutional gun ban law, no matter how they try to enforce it, will automatically paint a bulls-eye on the back of every gun grabbing politician from coast-to-coast.

They think they are safe.

They are wrong.

65 posted on 01/07/2013 10:34:28 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I’m in rural NH.

> Here in the northern half of Maine, people are armed to
> the teeth and I can’t see them giving up their firearms
> under any circumstances.

We have friends in a rural area north west of Bangor. What you say is true. I think there are some regions in the country where the commies will just let ‘em be. What they’ll do is cut off all gummint support, but most folks up there don’t need it and won’t miss it.They take care of one another.

> There are a number of transplants from Massachusetts and
> New York....those are the ones to watch out for.

Yup. Transplants from Connecticut and Rhode Island are just as bad.

> At least we have Paul LePage, a TEA Party guy, as Maine
> governor.

I envy you. Here in NH, we’ve had nothing but commies in the corner office for the last four years, and another commie just got elected. Our whole congressional delegation is outright commie, not even a RINO in the lot.


66 posted on 01/07/2013 10:35:14 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Ten Million people “armed” with brooms, each representing an effective long gun, marching on DC might be a visible deterent. Participation would be limited to actual owners of militarily effective rifles, ARs, AKs M1s etc.


67 posted on 01/07/2013 10:39:07 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: dainbramaged
There are only so many swat teams out there.

Never hit your opponent where they expect you to hit them, unless you have overwhelming fire power. And a shotgun is just gonna get the swat team mad. In that situation, my suggestion would be to hit them where they are most exposed. And a swat team is hardly exposed at all. What we should do is lay out some terms, for every single swat team raid,.....

68 posted on 01/07/2013 11:03:43 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Westbrook

I am from rural Vermont but I have been traveling the world for most of the past five decades; currently in Alaska. I have been planning to go back home to build a small house and live out my remaining years on the forty acres we own near the Canadian border. Now I am not so sure that is a good idea but I have been planning on it so long I don’t know want to let the b@st@rds prevent me from having the life I have dreamed of so long.


69 posted on 01/07/2013 11:06:18 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Westbrook
What they’ll do is cut off all gummint support, but most folks up there don’t need it and won’t miss it.

Will they miss electricity? That's easy for the government to shut down.

How about shipments to the grocery stores? All they have to do is set up roadblocks in the name of "public safety."

70 posted on 01/07/2013 11:11:32 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

King George the 3rd made that same mistake!


71 posted on 01/07/2013 11:20:36 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Westbrook
"Here in NH, we’ve had nothing but commies in the corner office"

And to think, David Souter came from NH.

Live Free or Die indeed.

72 posted on 01/07/2013 11:30:45 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Oatka; cripplecreek
You're right! Why should WE be on the defense. Let's throw the changes in the law back in their faces. Start by petitioning our representatives to repeal the 1968 Gun Control Act, and every successive law and regulation which was made to attempt to ‘make it work.’ I propose:

“A National Remilitarization Act

Whereas, the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution does not limit nor specify the arms which the people have the right to keep and bear, and

Whereas, the Militia by law includes every able-bodied man between the ages of 17 and 45, unless otherwise designated by the individual states, and by implication every able-bodied citizen,

Be it enacted: that any US Citizen, enlisted or enrolled in any state militia, Sheriffs Posse, State, County or municipal police auxiliary, police reserve, or constabulary, and or state emergency management agency Community Emergency Response Team, shall be allowed to own, keep, bear and if occasioned, use any military weapon or equipment what-so-ever.

Moreover, if such weapons or equipment has been deactivated or demiliterized, said militia member may restore it to fully operating condition, at his own expense, or at the expense of the militia unit to which he belongs”.

Meanwhile, all of you, go out and join your State Guards, your Sheriff's’ Posses, your State, County or Local police reserves, your Community Emergency Response Teams, whatever. If you belong to a reenactment unit, petition to have it declared to be a part of your state militia. Take a clue from 'Joe Hill'; "Get out and organize."

73 posted on 01/07/2013 11:37:51 AM PST by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: Oldpuppymax

The gun grabbers are very stupid if they think that.

People aren’t going out here and panic buying these guns in this economy just to have to turn them in. They will fight and be right for doing so.

Want the guns, go out and try to get them Mr. and Mrs. Senator and Congressman. The blood will be on your hands and if you fail, don’t be surprised what else might happen. The people of this nation are PISSED right now. Gun grabbers beware, the backlash will be strong, violent and powerful if you don’t cut the crap out now.


74 posted on 01/07/2013 11:38:28 AM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m hoping for the best.

But preparing for the worst.

Molon Labe


75 posted on 01/07/2013 11:50:08 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: W.Lee
I doubt that your reasoning is correct. Check for anyone selling weapons and although you’ll find a rise in prices for those who have them available, there are not a lot of weapons available for purchase anywhere at this time, even at exorbitant prices compared to just a few months ago.

Consider that such a “commodity” will not be so easily “flippable” when they are paying an enormous premium at this time and several months in the future the prices will likely drop and there will be no way you can profit off of such deals, IMO.

There are surely some who are attempting to make some cash at this time by flipping rifles, but I highly doubt it’s anywhere near a majority of buyers.

76 posted on 01/07/2013 11:56:47 AM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Hit the SWAT teams and you severely demoralize the enemy and significantly reduce their effectiveness. Hit them either when they are on an op, or hit them when they’re sleeping, doesn’t matter.

If they have a house surrounded, several dozen, or more, patriots surround them with layers and snipe away at them until they give chase, layer one falls back and layer two tears into them (all assuming you have enough manpower for that tactic).

There are countless ways to battle our domestic enemies if push comes to shove, regardless of their technical “superiority”, as long as there are enough determined patriots willing to fight.

Americans are fairly intelligent, for the most part, and are exceptionally talented at warfare, and given our nature, there will be no way our government could come out on top if they want to start the dance.


77 posted on 01/07/2013 12:18:45 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
If dressed up rifles (aka assault rifles) have no legitimate use in private hands, then what the heck are they doing slung on the back of most police motorcycles, in patrol cars, etc. Surely if these weapons are unable to be used in any form or fashion for self defense (and I'm not going over to the intent of the 2nd, which is to take on the government should it forget the contract with Americans called the constitution...)

Why are these ‘weapons of mass destruction’ in the hands of civil law enforcement? What use do they have? We've been told that these can only be used to kill recklessly, but for some reason, virtually every law enforcement office in the country has a small stack of them, either in the armory or in their vehicles.

Could it possibly be that these weapons are useful for self defense? That the left is trying to lie to us? Of course, that's almost always the case when dealing with liberals.

If a gun free zone keeps people safe, why isn't the White House Secret Service detail disarmed? The simple answer is that liberals have but one standard, that called ‘double.’ Diane Feinstien is pleased as punch to take away your guns, but don't you dare touch hers. She's more equal than you.

And should you dare waive an evil high capacity magazine around at a protest rally in Washington DC, there won't be any conversations as to your intent, you'll be in jail and before a judge in no time at all. Oh, and in case you think that it's just fine to waive it around on media property, that's a felony for you and I; not so for someone who works inside and is ‘making a point.’

The left has decided that it will be their way, or their way. Your choice. Luckily for them, so far, most Americans are law abiding citizens who actually respect that title. And luckily for them, most citizens haven't figured out yet that it is virtually impossible to fail to commit at least one felony a day under the winding and complex series of laws we have in this nation.

You do realize that if you drive onto school property to drop off your child at school, and just happen to have a bottle of over the counter pain pills in the car, you can be arrested and prosecuted for distribution of a controlled substance on school grounds, an automatic felony in virtually every jurisdiction in the country?

Ahh, yes, that's the ultimate trap. Who wants felons to have guns? No one, of course. What will be your felony?

78 posted on 01/07/2013 12:23:26 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I know one that will. Me.


79 posted on 01/07/2013 12:25:28 PM PST by sport
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To: CottShop

Either that or idiots hoping to ‘sell them back to hte govenremnt in a government ‘buy back’ program’ where the gov will give them ‘up to $200 dollars per gun’

Can i buy a crate of 30 dollar BB guns and get 200 per “gun” then take the resulting profit?


80 posted on 01/07/2013 12:29:54 PM PST by GraceG
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Everybody knows police officers, sheriff deputies, state troopers....and most people, myself included, know where many of these cops live. And nearly every home in these parts has multiple firearms.

If I were a really smart Sheriff when the order came to confiscate guns, instead of taking the guns they would go door to door deputizing EVERYONE WITH A GUN!


81 posted on 01/07/2013 12:34:27 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Pox
Exactly. How many of us have sat around BSing over beers and barbeque talking about Zombie/Russian/Chinese invasions?

It's all tactical thinking and it all applies.

82 posted on 01/07/2013 12:55:29 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: Blackirish

You, as few do, understand. There won’t be confiscations per se. The goal is to cut the supply chain.
Very few can make their own guns or ammo. Most who think they can are doing little more than assembling a pre-manufactured jigsaw puzzle. Almost nobody can make barrels, primers, or shells (a few can, but orders of magnitude away from current and opponent’s levels). Most manufacturers of those can be shut down with ease, or importation prohibited. Just takes an Executive Order (if illegal, revocation gets tied up in courts forever) and those few sources die off.
Once the supply chain is broken, then attrition ensues. Ammo, while in vast quantities out there, is a consumable and gets used up or hoarded into oblivion. Guns are durable but still break. The market, black or not, evaporates from hoarding and attrition and bureaucracy.

They learned from Waco and Ruby Ridge: don’t go there. Manifesting someone’s personal expectation of Armageddon does not turn out well. The law abiding, however, abide by law.


83 posted on 01/07/2013 1:08:41 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: EdReform

Here’s another

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/01/the-big-list-of-who-hates-guns/


84 posted on 01/07/2013 1:21:21 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

The chances of Feinstein’s gun bill getting to the floor of the Senate for a vote is zero.


85 posted on 01/07/2013 1:41:22 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ctdonath2

Yes all the keyboard commandos don’t get it. What wins battles? Not frontal attacks, flanking or waiting out your opponent. The left has all the time they need. 25 years from now AR15s will be a politically incorrect collectors item on folks walls.


86 posted on 01/07/2013 1:47:26 PM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Underestimating the enemy's will to fight is one of the surest roads to defeat in war.

Don't take my word for it. Just ask General Gage (1775), Jefferson Davis (1861), Hideki Tojo (1941), Douglas MacArthur (re the Chinese, 1950), Saddam Hussein (1990).

Always assume your enemy will fight like demons and prepare accordingly.

87 posted on 01/07/2013 3:25:24 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: Redcloak

Would be easier to deport all illegal aliens than to do what you suggest.


88 posted on 01/07/2013 3:29:05 PM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Left convinced Americans will not fight for 2nd Amendment rights

Normalcy bias?

89 posted on 01/07/2013 3:33:23 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: rolling_stone

I agree with this blog post the guerrilla war would be urban:

- What will be the likely model of american insurrection, if “gun control” doesn’t “go well?”
http://wintersoldier2008.typepad.com/summer_patriot_winter_sol/2012/12/what-will-be-the-likely-model-of-american-insurrection-if-gun-control-doesnt-go-well.html

One thing about militia and some tactics taught, movement, etc. I never understood practical unless very rural situations. But then there are drones, FLIR from surveillance planes, etc. Too much surveillance in open areas. I would in no way want to be dressed in camo or with tactical gear or stick out in anyway in a guerrilla war battlefield urban/suburban. Be the “grey man”. My rifles in transit for example aren’t all in gun cases, but other more inventive displays.

People talking long arms but really one needs a batch of vehicles, lots of different clothing for disguise/changing and a blade would do the job.


90 posted on 01/07/2013 5:10:25 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: Dead Corpse
Govt is buying up millions of rounds... And we’re buying up the rest. I was in Cabela’s last night and the ammo selection, even reloading components, is as thin as I’ve ever seen it... The powers that be need to factor that into their equation.

Thy don't care. They know they'e more likely to survive the turmoil (wealth and positions of power have their advantages. Further, may (like Obama) are utter ideologues, and see the loss of 30-50 million souls as an acceptable price to pay to bring about the changes they want.

Further, they will have NO hesitation to use overwhelming force against Americans, despite their urgings of "proportional force" abroad. Their voters won't see any problem with it, either. They'll smugly retort that the gun-lovers should love the massive weaponry being used against them. "Live by the gun", etc etc.

If it gets started, the cruelty and evil that will be unleashed on both sides will compare equally with NanKing's Rape, Cambodia's Killing Fields, and Africa's constant tribal butchery. There will be no rules, no relief, and no mercy... and the rest of the world will wait for their chance to pick up some gains at our expense if they can. (Alaska goes to Russia, Hawaii becomes Chinese, the Southwest becomes Aztlan?)

91 posted on 01/07/2013 5:24:51 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Teacher317

The evil that will befall us if we capitulate is far worse.

Or do we need to run down histories attempts at disarmed genocide?


92 posted on 01/07/2013 6:12:06 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: JimRed
When that starts, your assignment is to find and terminate the highest ranking DemocRAT officials within your reach, the ones responsible for giving the orders.

You're forgetting their Republican allies and enablers.

93 posted on 01/07/2013 7:04:20 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Dead Corpse
The evil that will befall us if we capitulate is far worse.
Or do we need to run down histories attempts at disarmed genocide?

I quite agree; the chance for you to live through a disarmed genocide (assuming you're one of the disarmed) is much, much less than that of surviving armed battle.

94 posted on 01/07/2013 7:21:04 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GraceG

[[Can i buy a crate of 30 dollar BB guns and get 200 per “gun” then take the resulting profit?]]

Lol- that woudl be fantastic but the gov will only pay ‘up to’ $200- they’d probably only offer $5 for the guns-


95 posted on 01/07/2013 8:45:36 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Westbrook

[...they will just pick-off gun owners one-by-one, raiding one house at a time for those who don’t surrender.”

If the attempt is made at coordinated confiscations, news of it will spread like wild fire. Police will not do it if ordered to do so, nor will the military.

Some may initially, but reality will be more than they bargained for.


96 posted on 01/07/2013 8:49:42 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: demshateGod

[[People have a romantic view of what will go down. They dream, as every patriotic man has done since childhood, of a Red Dawn resistance.]]

I’m guilty of that too (and more so because of health problems that make life problematic)but I’ll only do so if I see that others are willing to organize a strong resistance

[[But, reality is much different.]]

Cotrrect, when push coems to shove- many will shrink because the bully o nthe block- big government- will be VERY powerful

[[Some of the smartest, most cynical, well read, people the world has ever produced are currently, as I right this, working on how to do this. The culmination of years of planning are coming to fruition. They know how to deal with the scenarios discussed in this forum. It has to be organized or it will fail]]

But what will convince them that enough is enough? We were alreadt dealt a VERY serious blow when john roberts of the supreme court REFUSED to do his sworn duty to protect this nation agaisnt a rogue government who has violated our constitutional rights- and he let it be known that any future requests for the supreme court to protect us agaisnt a rogue governemnt will NOT be met by the court- That alone should have been enough to signal to those folks that we are in serious trouble as a nation when our last line of defense agaisnt a rogue government REFUSES to do what they were initially formed to do-

[[They still think 0 wants to do what’s right but is failing because he lacks the correct paradigm. He is succeeding]]

And he’s goign to get worse, much much worse now that he knows the supreme court will NOT challenge him any longer- Rhino Lindsay graham hit it on the head hwen he stated 0 was goiogn to be an ‘in your face’ commander for the next 4 years- He IS goign to unleash unholy hell on this coutnry- Hell, he’s already begun- but now he feels he ‘has a mandate to continue’ because ‘the peopel reelected him to continue doign what he was doing’

This country may never recover from this- and I see the masses layign down hteir guns and right to bear arms just to get their promissed $200 ‘stimulus check’ each year fro mthe government (and continue gettign government welfare in the form of unemployement ‘benifits’ welfare, food stamps etc etc- As soemoen correctlty stated in this forum- unemployement is becomming hte4 new dissability check


97 posted on 01/07/2013 8:56:35 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: lodi90
The raids will be electronic. The idea is to make everybody a criminal and then selectively enforce the law.

At some point they gotta put boots on the ground; or the neck, as it were. An electronic raid won't disarm anyone. They have to step out of their cubicles eventually.

...and when they do, math's a bitch!

98 posted on 01/07/2013 11:00:47 PM PST by Redcloak (CA conservatives: Go to https://rtv.sos.ca.gov/elections/register-to-vote/ to quit the GOP!)
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To: Blackirish
They won’t have to kill anyone. It will be really smooth and easy. First they’ll ban the manufacture and sale of all semis. Then they’ll ban the transport of they above. You can have then you just can’t move or sell them. The final straw will be a 10 year manditoty federal crime to be caught off your property with a semi.

You mean like they already do with illegal narcotics? I ask since that's been working out so well since 1914.

99 posted on 01/07/2013 11:17:42 PM PST by Redcloak (CA conservatives: Go to https://rtv.sos.ca.gov/elections/register-to-vote/ to quit the GOP!)
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To: CottShop; GraceG
[[Can i buy a crate of 30 dollar BB guns and get 200 per “gun” then take the resulting profit?]]

Lol- that woudl be fantastic but the gov will only pay ‘up to’ $200- they’d probably only offer $5 for the guns-

Here in L.A. County, they'll "buy back" painted plastic pipes if you call them rocket launchers.

100 posted on 01/07/2013 11:30:54 PM PST by Redcloak (CA conservatives: Go to https://rtv.sos.ca.gov/elections/register-to-vote/ to quit the GOP!)
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