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If the govt can share your gun permit data with the public, why not your tax & income data too?
Flopping Aces ^ | 01-08-13 | Vince

Posted on 01/08/2013 11:17:47 AM PST by Starman417

In the wake of the tragedy in Connecticut last month a newspaper serving the New York City suburbs, The Journal News, decided to post to its website the names and addresses of all of the legal gun owners in Westchester, Rockland, and Putnam counties. Gun owners were outraged. In response a blogger posted the names and addresses of the key players at the newspaper’s editorial staff. The Journal, a unit of USA Today publisher Gannett, accessed the names and addresses via a Freedom Of Information request which makes most government data available to the public.

This is a blatant misuse of government data and the government is complicit in that misuse. The state of New York requires that all handguns be registered. That means that in order to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights, a law abiding citizen must request permission from the state of New York, something they don’t have to do with the freedom of religion, speech or anything else in the Constitution. (This doesn’t apply to owning a rifle, only handguns.) Bad enough that citizens must ask, but what’s worse, New York is a “May issue” state, which means that the state has the right to say “No, you are not allowed to exercise your 2nd Amendment right”. A denial can only be overturned in court if the denial is shown to be arbitrary and capricious. And don’t forget, in the case of New York City, the people making that decision are part of the same government that thinks it’s reasonable to ban large sodas.

If perchance the government deigns to allow you to own a gun in New York, and if you then want to carry that gun outside your home, you’ll now have to request permission for that separately – and that does apply to long guns as well. The state or local authorities then get to decide if you have a good reason to carry one. It doesn’t matter if you believe you need it for self defense, what matters is whether or not you can convince them that you need it for self defense.

So now that the government of New York has forced its citizens to beg for permission in order to exercise their Constitutional right to bear arms, it then keeps all their names and addresses in a database that it then shares with just about anyone who asks.

Of course this is a bonanza for criminals. Now they know where they can go to steal guns. Or they can know in advance which homes will require extra firepower or more men because the owner may be armed. What’s more, criminals are now able to use the database to harass and threaten police and prison guards and their families. At the same time victims who have fled domestic abuse and who have successfully navigated the gun licensing maze now have their names and addresses published for their tormenters to find.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2nd; banglist; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/08/2013 11:17:52 AM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Actually, my first guess is because of the Social Security Number. It isn’t (at least wasn’t) supposed to be used for Identification purposes. The old cards used to say “Not to be used for Identification Purposes” however, the new ones do not....


2 posted on 01/08/2013 11:22:47 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Starman417

What do you think they’re going to do now that they have our medical information? :)


3 posted on 01/08/2013 11:24:12 AM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Starman417

I believe that day could come, and soon, as the political demagogues and community organizers incite mobs to demand more tribute (err, taxes) from “the rich”


4 posted on 01/08/2013 11:24:25 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Starman417

And your electronic medical records under Obamacare.....I wouldn’t bet on those being secure from the media, either.


5 posted on 01/08/2013 11:24:59 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: Starman417

1. They need to do more ads with other people other than just women. Women are hardly the only group that needs guns for self protection.

Specifically - single male. I live alone, and don’t like the odds of having several guys gang up against me. Father with a family. An elderly couple. A person in a wheelchair. A short person.

There are so many disparity of force examples that also need to be illustrated to drive the point home.

2. Why not share who’s had abortions in the neighborhood?

3. Let’s share all the people who are public school teachers and where they live.

4. Let’s publish where all the known felons are living.

These propagandists make me sick. Modern day witch hunt attempting to make innocent law-abiding gun owners out to be the CRIMINALS with guns.

Where the guns are. How about where the damn criminals are?

Friggin msm libtard propagandists.


6 posted on 01/08/2013 11:25:45 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
These propagandists make me sick. Modern day witch hunt attempting to make innocent law-abiding gun owners out to be the CRIMINALS with guns.

They are trying to "stigmatize" legal gun owners. Put the gun owners name in the newspaper as if the newspaper is providing a service to the public.

This is a dog whistle and is intended to cause hysteria among the general population.

7 posted on 01/08/2013 11:37:49 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Data security on the “cloud” is a facade. There is no such thing and it will prove to bite us collectively in the keyster.


8 posted on 01/08/2013 11:51:03 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Secret Agent Man
Where the guns are. How about where the damn criminals are?

Yeah, publish the addresses of all elected representatives.

9 posted on 01/08/2013 12:04:43 PM PST by Will we know the moment (e are no longer a republi)
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To: Starman417

Medical data is next under nation healthcare.....


10 posted on 01/08/2013 12:16:32 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Starman417

We could greatly reduce food stamp abuse if the names and addresses of everyone with an EBT card were released. You would be surprised how many of your friends and neighbors are buying their steaks and crab legs with an EBT card while you struggle to afford hamburger.


11 posted on 01/08/2013 12:25:48 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Starman417

In November 1938 the Nazis demanded that the Jews turn in their guns. They knew exactly where these guns were due to registration laws.


12 posted on 01/08/2013 12:43:24 PM PST by mom.mom
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To: Secret Agent Man

5) Publish the names and addresses of all union members.


13 posted on 01/08/2013 1:18:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: mom.mom

That is the scariest part, and it is the thing that makes black market gun sales thrive.


14 posted on 01/08/2013 1:42:30 PM PST by miserare
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To: Starman417
And yet, Obama's personal records are off limits due to privacy claims. Where are the privacy concerns for everyone else?

-PJ

15 posted on 01/08/2013 1:48:29 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: oldbrowser

Of course they are, they are deliberating making no distinction between law abiding gun owners and armed criminals. On purpose.

It’s called transference, or projection. Potato, potata.

Basically channeling anger from the real danger to a scapegoat. 1984 had the two minutes hate where they railed against “Goldstein”.

Gun owners are Goldstein. In general politicians deflect anger away from themselves and onto a chosen Goldstein group of people. the ever-changing, nebulous “the rich”. “Gun owners”.


16 posted on 01/08/2013 3:45:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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17 posted on 01/08/2013 4:13:14 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should wear GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS.)
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