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Marine Corps to spouse clubs: Allow same-sex members or you don't operate on base
CNN ^ | January 10, 2013 | Ashley Fantz

Posted on 01/11/2013 8:17:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

It apparently takes more than a few good men, according to the U.S. Marine Corps. It takes all kinds of people to support military families, including same-sex spouses of service members.

CNN published a story this week about a woman married to a female lieutenant colonel at Fort Bragg who believes she was rejected from an officers' spouse club because she's gay. Less than a day later, Maj. Gen. Vaughn Ary advised Marine Corps legal staff such clubs conducting business on its bases must admit same-same spouses. If they do not, the clubs will be barred from meeting on any Marine Corps installation.

Ary wrote that clubs cannot discriminate against any member because of "race, color, creed, sex, age, disability, or national origin. We would interpret a spouse's club's decision to exclude a same-sex spouse as sexual discrimination because the exclusion was based upon the spouse's sex."

Marine Corps spokesman Capt. Eric Flanagan, who provided a portion of the memo to CNN, said, "We expect that all who are interested in supporting Marine Corps Family Readiness would be welcome to participate and will be treated with dignity and respect."

Flanagan said the Marines Corps was clarifying its policy for its members and would not have control over activities concerning Fort Bragg which is an Army installation...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: army; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; homosexuals; marinecorps; usmc

1 posted on 01/11/2013 8:18:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Move the meetings off base and make a big deal about it to the local newspaper (anonymous of course ... could ruin a career).


2 posted on 01/11/2013 8:23:48 PM PST by doc1019
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I highly recommend a blanket party.


3 posted on 01/11/2013 8:24:46 PM PST by ConservativeInPA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
..."We would interpret a spouse's club's decision to exclude a same-sex spouse as sexual discrimination because the exclusion was based upon the spouse's sex."

Uhm, no...not because of their sex, but because of their sexual orientation.

This is getting more and more disgustingly ridiculous. The club should move their meetings off site and refuse to *evolve*.

4 posted on 01/11/2013 8:25:05 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
guess it's the Marine Corpse now...
5 posted on 01/11/2013 8:26:41 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whoda thunk that military wives wouldn’t want someone queering up their club?


6 posted on 01/11/2013 8:31:50 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet
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To: Chode

As the slide down the sewer continues unabated.


7 posted on 01/11/2013 8:33:40 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FTN


8 posted on 01/11/2013 8:34:14 PM PST by 11th_VA (In the course of Human Events ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same sex couples will demand on base housing next.


9 posted on 01/11/2013 8:34:45 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
yup, and picking up speed as it goes...
11 posted on 01/11/2013 8:38:27 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I’m guessing they already get that.


12 posted on 01/11/2013 8:40:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not that I have seen. At least for the A.F.


13 posted on 01/11/2013 9:05:53 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jane Long

...”We would interpret a spouse’s club’s decision to exclude a same-sex spouse as sexual discrimination because the exclusion was based upon the spouse’s sex.”

No. It be because they are NOT a spouse. Gay marriage is not legally recognized by the military and they are not ID carrying dependents.


14 posted on 01/11/2013 9:08:44 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another two-star general sucking up in every way possible in his quest for a third star.


15 posted on 01/11/2013 9:08:48 PM PST by oldbill
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To: Chode

Yup. Real marines standing up for and defending their honorable wives. /s


16 posted on 01/11/2013 9:10:19 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But the ongoing discrimination against whites is allowed. There is a “pride” type observance for every other race. There’s also one for women but none for men. Equal means for everyone not just minorities.

My suggestion is to get rid of all observances based on race and have one month maybe called “cultural awareness” month.


17 posted on 01/11/2013 9:14:44 PM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK I am mixed up.Does the woman who fells like she is a man goes to the man club and the man who feels like he is a woman goes to a woman’s club.


18 posted on 01/11/2013 9:22:33 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And thus we kill the “clubs” for everyone. My wife and I have no intention of going to a social “club” where we have to be surrounded by lesbians and gay couples - we reserve the right to associate with people who have similar values as we do.

Want the clubs to close? No problem - let the gays show up - and we’ll drop our membership and go somewhere else.

Can the club remain financially viable servicing what amounts to less than 3% of the population? Good luck with that.


19 posted on 01/11/2013 9:31:46 PM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Uhhh, Ft Bragg is army, not Marine Corps.

I may smell a whiff of BS to this story.

Why the heck would the Marines give a damn what some army wife did or did not do?

20 posted on 01/11/2013 9:37:34 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: RetiredTexasVet

They tried this sh&t in Sokor where my cousin is based, near the DMZ. They didn’t call it a ‘club”, they called it get-togethers or whatever pc crap they could think of.


21 posted on 01/11/2013 9:40:35 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: doorgunner69

That’s mentioned in the article...


22 posted on 01/11/2013 9:43:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If I have to read Clinton News Network, I’ll pass.


23 posted on 01/11/2013 9:46:15 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Big asteroid, up.


24 posted on 01/11/2013 9:51:25 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” . . . and it’s all over now, Baby Blue.”


25 posted on 01/11/2013 10:50:15 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fine, the gay man-wife can come to the ladies meetings. The first one he shows up to the topic of conversation should be menstrual cycles, breast tenderness and bloating, with hours and hours of details. The next time he shows up the topic should be, all you ever wanted to know about pregnancy and your blossoming body.
26 posted on 01/12/2013 12:19:19 AM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“We would interpret a spouse’s club’s decision to exclude a same sex spouse as sexual discrimination because the exclusion was based on the spouse’s sex.”

Lord, lawyers are STUPID. That doesn’t pass the laugh test. Whatever happened to the Defense of Marriage Act, anyway? Did it disappear through actual legal procedure, or did Obama wave it away with a flick of his wrist?


27 posted on 01/12/2013 4:59:16 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Jane Long

No, not because of their orientation, either. Because they don’t recognize them as spouses, which no amount of play-acting will change.


28 posted on 01/12/2013 5:00:47 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
Good morning.

Whatever happened to the Defense of Marriage Act, anyway? Did it disappear through actual legal procedure,...

No.

...or did Obama wave it away with a flick of his wrist?

Yes. I believe the date was circa Jan. 2010. Holder was informed not to take any action regarding DOMA.

5.56mm

29 posted on 01/12/2013 5:11:32 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Marie

Exactly right. But they’ll err on the side of PC and assert that though it doesn’t qualify under the legal definition of “discrimination” it does anyway, because it must. So they choose “sex” because, um, gay people have sex with eachother? No, no, because they’re being discriminated against for not being women. Or not being men, if the wife is the one in the military.

Whatever else happens, death, taxes, and “sexual orientation” being officially added to the list will. No again, it must be more than that. Not merely orientation, but we must not discriminate against those who are “differently married.”

Eventually we won’t be able to discriminate at all. And what’s the opposite of discrimination. Fairness? Absolutely not. Tolerance? That’s what they’d have you think. I hate inappropriately sciency words, but the answer is: dysgeusia, or lack of taste.


30 posted on 01/12/2013 5:15:01 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: M Kehoe

“Holder was informed not to take any action regarding DOMA”

How does that translate into taking positive action to equalize the status of married and homosexually “married” couples in the military? Don’t answer. I know. Lawyers are lawyers, and the brass are bureaucrats and/or politicians.

I mean, it’s not as if you can rise through the ranks by storming redoubts anymore. Once you get to a certain level, I mean. Then it’s PC or die.


31 posted on 01/12/2013 5:20:55 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
...and the brass are bureaucrats and/or politicians.

More and more each day.

5.56mm

32 posted on 01/12/2013 5:26:23 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Tublecane

The opposite of discrimination would be indiscriminate and undiscerning, both very apt descriptions of the modern liberal.


33 posted on 01/12/2013 5:47:48 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Marie
LOL...
34 posted on 01/12/2013 6:31:53 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘She said that the spouse club at Bragg has not reached out to her.’

Poor Baby!


35 posted on 01/12/2013 7:11:11 AM PST by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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