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To: 4Zoltan

“Matching” is totally irrelevant for legal purposes. The “information” on my $3 bill would match the “information” on anybody else’s, but none of them would have any legal value. “Matching” what’s on a legally non-valid record means nothing.

The application is used to find the correct record, but Bennett clearly asked that the information in that application be verified. Onaka did not verify that information. To verify it, you have to say it. If you don’t say it, you don’t verify it.

We would know there was no “LATE” or “ALTERED” stamp on the record if Onaka said, “I, Alvin Onaka, verify that the Hawaii DOH has a birth certificate on file for Barack Hussein Obama, II. I verify that Barack Hussein Obama, II, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961, in Honolulu on the island of Oahu, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father BArack Hussein Obama.”

Or he could say, “I, Alvin Onaka verify that the HI DOH has a birth certificate on file for Barack Hussein Obama, II and verify that the following are his true facts of birth: Gender: male DOB: Aug 4, 1961 (etc)...”

The point of it is what exactly he says he is verifying. Nowhere does he say he’s verifying anything as true. And he doesn’t even mention the core pieces of information, which were all on the actual application.

“Information” is the CONTENT, not the presentation of it. Take the dates that Bennett requested to be verified “from the birth record”. He requested them in a certain format, but Onaka responded with the date in the format EXACTLY AS IT IS ON THE WHITE HOUSE IMAGE. He could still verify that the INFORMATION Bennett gave was what was actually on the BC because the format is irrelevant. No matter how you format the date it is still the same physical day, and that is the INFORMATION.

Onaka would not verify that the INFORMATION contained in the White House image is identical to the INFORMATION contained in the HDOH record. This isn’t talking about syntax or appearances (such as copying irregularities); it’s talking about the content. The content is not identical.

53 posted on 01/16/2013 1:44:19 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion; palmer; Nero Germanicus

“the following are his true facts of birth”

How could he possibly verify that the facts are true? He wasn’t there. All he can verify, all any registrar can verify, is that the facts on the presented certified copy are the same as on the original birth certificate.

“The content is not identical.”

So in box 6c on the pdf is the entry “Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital” and Dr. Onaka says that matches the entry on the original. So are you saying that the entry might not be “Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital” but something else?

Butter, you are in contact with Larry Klayman, why not have him request a verification? He should meet the requirements of §338-18 (g) (4)

Have Dr. Onaka verify the following:

Box 1a - Barack
Box 1b - Hussein
Box 1c - Obama, II
Box 2 – Male
Box 3 – single
Box 4 - no entry
Box 5a - August 4, 1961
Box 5b – 7:24 p.m.
Box 6a – Honolulu
Box 6b – Oahu
Box 6c – Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital
Box 6d – yes
Box 7a – Honolulu
Box 7b – Oahu
Box 7c – Honolulu, Hawaii
Box 7d – 6085 Kalanianaole Highway
Box 7e – yes
Box 7f – no entry/blank
Box 7g – no
Box 8 - Barack Hussein Obama
Box 9 – African
Box 10 - 25
Box 11 – Kenya, East Africa
Box 12a – Student
Box 12b – University
Box 13 - Stanley Ann Dunham
Box 14 – Caucasian
Box 15 – 18
Box 16 – Wichita, Kansas
Box 17a – None
Box 17b – no entry/blank
Box 18a - Stanley Ann Dunham Obama
Box 18b – 8-7-61
Box 19a – David A. Sinclair
Box 19b – 8-8-61
Box 20 – Aug-8 1961
Box 21 – V. K. Lee
Box 22 – Aug –8 1961
Box 23 – no entry/blank

Would that satisfy you?

54 posted on 01/16/2013 2:27:05 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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