Skip to comments.Firearm dealers told to ignore federal law, begin de facto registration of gun owners
Posted on 01/19/2013 10:38:52 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
Barack Obamas Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) has sent an open letter to all Federal Firearms License (FFL) holders/licensed gun dealers in the United States, recommending they enhance public safety and assist law enforcement by encouraging and facilitating transfers of firearms between private individuals through their business. In short, FFL holders are being told to perform background checks and keep records of private gun sales between American citizens, EVEN THOUGH federal law may NOT require that they do so! (1)
According to current federal law, gun sales between private individuals must be...
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Alinsky Rule 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what an opponent thinks you have”.
So private sellers are supposed to, what? Just show up at a licensed dealer and say “please run this person through NICS.”? And how are licensed dealers supposed to “encourage” folks to do this? Advertise? Go door to door?
Who handles the 4473? The dealer? The seller?
I don’t recall him saying that in his speech. Also, it wasn’t in the news.
You mean he deliberately held back information from the people?
For all the talk about laws, most people have never read any and don’t know what’s therein.
It almost seems to me that the government is encouraging FFL’s to simply lie to people by basically telling people that it is “required” to do a background check with an FFL even for private transactions, even though there is no law at this time that states such.
Free Ammo with background ck?
I know what all FFLs in Tx will say.
I know of cases where a private sale was cancelled because one of the parties was “uncomfortable” about NOT going through a dealer. Brainwashing does work.
Confucius say man who poke hornets` nest get stung.
It is ridiculous on the face of it.
If it is a “private sale” why would you have to pay a 3rd party (the FFL) and subjugate to a 4th party (FBI)???
Currently, FFLs aren't allowed to use the NICS system to simply run someone's name to see if they would be accepted or rejected. An actual transaction must be in the process of taking place. This is telling FFLs how to process these private transfers.
The next step will be requiring that all private sales be done through an FFL, but that will take an act of Congress, not an EO.
Nobody except an idiot is going to sell their gun to another private party through an FFL dealer.
I can see some unscrupulous FFL’s lying to people so they can make money for doing NICS checks.
If you hear about it, send them a nasty email. Or, visit them in person and inform them you will NOT patronize a business that goes along with the Obama disarmament agenda.
Exactly. Very, very few private sellers are going to comply.
No, thank you. I will not use an FFL simply to make a communist happy. This is about good and evil, and the "request" that we use an FFL and create an audit trail is not coming from those who side with good. In the unlikely(?) event that the federal government becomes an enemy of freedom, every untraceable firearm in the hands of a decent person is a very good thing.
F troop has a long history of overstepping the laws that they are supposed to obey.
Private sales are just that - PRIVATE. Until CONGRESS changes the law there is no legal obligation for FFL dealers to encourage NICS checks for private transactions.
I’m sure a lot of them will tell the F troopers that they are available to do that should a subject, er citizen, request it just to keep them off their backs.
Here in PA, all private handgun sales must go thru the FFL to legally transfer the original owner from the title and absolve all future responsibility of usage. Long guns aren’t required to go thru that; a simple receipt between parties is all that’s required. I thought that the handgun transfer requirement was a federal law. No?
Lots of people in a VA ad paper sell guns privately.
Is it legal for a non-VA person to buy them?
Absolutely not. In Arizona we buy,sell and trade firearms as private individuals without any paperwork required.
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