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Wanted: 'Adventurous woman' to give birth to Neanderthal man-professor seeks mother for cloned baby
The London Daily Mail ^ | January 20, 2013 | Allan Hall and Fiona Macrae

Posted on 01/20/2013 9:06:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
well - from the article

based on genetic code found in fossil remains

fossils dont form in 33000 years -

51 posted on 01/21/2013 4:52:21 AM PST by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At the present stage of technology, I’d say it’s impossible.

Furthermore, the method described would not produce a Neanderthal, but a Homo sapiens/Neanderthal chimera (organism consisting of a mixture of H. sapiens and Neanderthal cells). It would probably be rather odd looking. For instance, the skin would probably have a mottled appearance, due to different color skin genes in the two cell lines. To get the Neanderthal baby, one would have to cross two chimeras, with a 1/4 chance of the baby being a Neanderthal. That’s because the germ cells would be a mixture of Homo sapiens and Neanderthal cells.

Even if it were possible, a project like this would take a couple of generations. I don’t know that any independent review board would give it their ethical blessing.


52 posted on 01/21/2013 4:56:15 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Bigger issue: will the neanderthal be classified as human? How about a genetic construct with 10% chump DNA? 20%? 90%?

Neanderthals *are* considered human. Any species with the "Homo" designation is human. We're the only human species alive, but we're not the only one that ever existed.

53 posted on 01/21/2013 5:01:47 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Marylander
How's this for an explanation? A woman would stay with her own tribe, so any Neanderthal-CroMagnon baby with Cro-M mother would be incorporated into a Cro-M tribe and bring in Neandertal DNA. If the father was Cro-M, then the baby would be incorporated into Neandertal tribe.

Under that theory, there would be no evidence of Neandertal DNA in the mitochondria of Cro-M. It would all be in the 23 pairs of chromosomes. I think that is what has been found.

54 posted on 01/21/2013 5:13:17 AM PST by Marylander
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To: ebshumidors

BINGO! We have a winner!


55 posted on 01/21/2013 6:05:41 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: varmintman

Very interesting website. Thanks for the reference.


56 posted on 01/21/2013 6:11:24 AM PST by rusty millet
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To: EvilOverlord

cool! where did you read that?


57 posted on 01/21/2013 6:11:55 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do we really want to expand the liberal voter base?


58 posted on 01/21/2013 6:17:02 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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59 posted on 01/21/2013 6:51:42 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

The Neanderthal was the apex predator of Ice-Age Europe. He was highly intelligent but he did not think like we do at all, his mind-set was more like that of an African lion. You wouldn’t want him or a neighbor...


60 posted on 01/21/2013 6:57:39 AM PST by varmintman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seed of Chucky :)


61 posted on 01/21/2013 7:27:11 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Indeed just what we need another Obama.


62 posted on 01/21/2013 7:56:41 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: EvilOverlord; Jeff Winston
What if we brought Neanderthals back and they really were smarter than we are?

I read a short story about that very thing. It all started with a scientist cloning a Neanderthal, just as this article describes.

Most scientists agree that Neanderthals were dumber than we are. Their tool set remained unchanged over the 200,000 Plus years they were on earth. They never learned to throw their spears and they never invented the bow. They used their spears as stabbing weapons as evidenced by the many injuries evident by breaks to the bones of the fossils that have been found, breaks obviously caused by trying to kill large animals while in close proximity to them. All of this speaks of a limited intelligence.

63 posted on 01/21/2013 8:16:35 AM PST by calex59
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m guessing that the Octomom is already in contact with them. She’s “adventurous” (crazy) and probably looking for another fifteen minutes of fame (and a check!)


64 posted on 01/21/2013 8:38:00 AM PST by philled (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

re: “He would put this DNA into stem cells. These would be injected into cells from a human embryo in the early stages of life.”

Sure, why not? That “human” embryo is just an nonviable tissue mass, right? (sarc.)

Nothing unethical here.


65 posted on 01/21/2013 9:09:11 AM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: calex59

From what I’ve read since writing my initial comment, it does seem that modern humans probably won out because we were nerdier and more socially connected.

Earlier I was imagining a conversation:

Neanderthal: What you making funny thing?

Modern Human: Me not know.

Neanderthal: What it for?

Modern Human: Me think maybe could try use for hunt game. [TWANG]

Neanderthal: Unng-hhhh.

Modern Human: Sorry.


66 posted on 01/21/2013 9:56:28 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Good news! A volunteer has been located.
67 posted on 01/21/2013 12:18:45 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


68 posted on 01/21/2013 1:20:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Mr. K

It was in a science fiction collection. I haven’t found the actual collection, so I can’t tell you, or even the name of the story. If I find it, I’ll let you know.


69 posted on 01/22/2013 1:22:10 PM PST by EvilOverlord (Socialism makes workers into slaves and couch potatoes into kings)
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To: EvilOverlord

Could it have been this story?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ugly_Little_Boy


70 posted on 01/22/2013 5:37:11 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
re: “He would put this DNA into stem cells. These would be injected into cells from a human embryo in the early stages of life.”

Sure, why not? That “human” embryo is just an nonviable tissue mass, right? (sarc.)

Nothing unethical here.

The technique described has been used for many years to make transgenic animals. If you've ever seen pictures of fluorescent rabbits, fish, dogs, etc., this is how they were made.

I seriously doubt any research proposal using this technology on humans would get past an IRB.

71 posted on 01/22/2013 5:47:58 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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