Skip to comments.Hmm… Shock Claim: Obama Only Wants Military Leaders Who ‘Will Fire on U.S. Citizens’
Posted on 01/22/2013 3:45:43 PM PST by george76
Dr. Jim Garrow, the author of The Pink Pagoda: One Mans Quest to End Gendercide in China, made the following claim .
I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new litmus test in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not. Those who will not are being removed.
So, who is the source?
Garrow replied: The man who told me this is one of Americas foremost military heroes.
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Or option 3: They don’t want to mysteriously die in a one car crash, or suddenly get lead poisoning to the back of the head by a DHS hollowpoint.
and illegal bullets to use in war, to top it off.
and if they shoot you, don’t expect you’ll get medical help under obamacare.
I was at the bagel shop on base this morning. Standing next to me while I waited on my bagel was a Tech Sergeant. He smiled at me and said, “Well, we have a new president.” I smiled back and replied, “Yes we do, but it is the same one.” Then I said, “I look at it this way, our national nightmare is one-half over.” He frowned and would not speak to me again.
yes, many hate heteros, they proect their hate for their parents onto those they’d have to shoot. straight guys have no chance, both hate them. hetero couples no problem gunning them down, especially if they’re christians.
Dante saw all of these people coming, and has a special place for them defined....
The SS was not chock full of faggots. Homosexuality was a problem issue that the Fuehrer wanted to deal with the gas chambers. SS had another problem there were not enough women of pure Aryan race that would not allow for the SS to achieve offspring for the Fuehrer. True fascism rids the country of its faggots and lesbians. 60% of all homosexuals were gassed in concentration Camps, others were utilized as guinea pigs for scientific experiments.
Look at Iran the rise of a Fascist Nation - Homosexuals are killed.
Get the Homosexuals to come out of the closet so to speak. The US Government does not have to have a registry and lo and behold you get rid of the homosexual.
keep this in mind Obama passes anything that is viewed as a positive is actually a negative because there is an unintended consequence that arises out of everything that Obama touches.
Pardon me while I slip on the hip boots to avoid the BS.
Look up fragging to see what happens to obuma murderers.
And there will be media propaganda, at first in blind support and out of hatred for a perceived "enemy", later on it will be out of fear of reprisal from those the propaganda has targeted as things really heat up.
They key is not facing loyal troops directly, but going after those who sent them.
Can’t find any in the Austin area.
I need to buy a lot for the “Ladies Learn to Shoot” days that SAS puts on.
I’m with you, this is just another Internet myth.
I think we’re winning bigtime, in those and all other numbers.
If you’re lucky, you’ll just quietly bleed-out instead of getting the Red Pill.
“My theory is that the reason they are buying up all the ammo is that they havent been successful getting our guns. Hence, they will have all the ammo, and we arent able to get any...”
Yep, a billion rounds of cop killer bullets were delivered to the National Weather Service. The forecasters are coming to get us.
“Google the 29 Palms Questionnaire. This dates back to 1988 if I recall rightly. Marines stationed at the 29 Palms Marine base in California were asked this question back then. It created a firestorm of controversy. I thought at the time it was a harbinger of bad things to come. Looks like it may well be nigh.”
You’re wrong. That survey showed that 64% of Marines would not shoot Americans, The boots and privates might be susceptible to such an illegal order, but the sergeants and captains would correct them. The idiot officers who gave such a command would be fed to the alligators in the Carolina swamp.
Everyone, count the cost before committing. I’m in the South, from a long line of Confederates; great grandfather was a Confederate soldier. They hoped it would be a brief spectacle, too. Well over half a million men died in that war; and now, in spite of quitting themselves like men, us “Rebs” are regularly maligned by the likes of Obama who fancies himself the modern-day “Lincoln”. - Count the cost; because there is a cost.
Good luck finding reloading supply’s,
They are as scarce as hens teeth nowadays.
will the assault media ask questions about this at the next press conference?
we have to have ONE intreprid reporter.
Drudge would certainly get attention since he is the hompage of the MSM. Rush is show prep.
I agree, and if it is true and this person doesn't publicly come forward, shame on him.
Who here knows about reloading? Is it hard to get into?
Not hard to start, nor expensive to kit yourself out at Reloading 101 level.
Was going to suggest Lee Precision “Lee Loader Rifle or Pistol” kit, less than $40, but they’re all out of stock in the pistol category and they suggest going to a dealer.
A simple single cartridge handloader includes everything but brass, primer, powder, and bullet. It’s kind of like learning to shoot a single loader rifle. Learn the basics and get comfortable with them before dealing with turret presses and all. Some just don’t take to it. With the Lee Loader you’re not out big bucks if reloading isn’t for you. But even that $40 isn’t wasted. Handy little kit to have for a bug out bag or to have at the range to hand load different powder or bullet weights.
Old fellow in W VA swears he only loads one .30-30 cartridge a year being as how he only takes one deer a season and that’s all he needs.
Any way, take a gander here to wet your toes:
If you take to it or want more control for precision shooting you can go whole hog but that Lee Loader will still get the job done.
The fact that the government bought all those bullets, many more than they would need is a clear indication that something bad is going on.
Let me guess, his last name is "Anonymous"........that guy really gets around.......
Or were told that their retirement pay would be shut off.
It’s amazing that most of you can’t see you’re being trolled by the Left. They put out this crap with the hopes some knucklehead with a radio show repeats it as fact.
Then all they have to do is point out how irrational and crazy conservatives are.
For the love of God, THINK for once. You seriously believe think this wouldnt have been outed by those people approached and subsequently fired for saying “no?”
And you wonder why we lose elections.
That’s a bankable allegation.
There's plenty on the Internet backing this view of the Nazi party and homosexuality.
"Lively’s crime? In his book, “The Pink Swastika,” Lively exposes a secret homosexual activists don't want you to know about Nazi Germany: that although the Nazis did persecute homosexuals, the homosexuals the Nazis persecuted were almost exclusively the effeminate members of the gay community in Germany, and that much of the mistreatment was administered by masculine homosexuals who despised effeminacy in all its forms.
Ludwig Lenz worked at the Sex Research Institute in Berlin, which was destroyed by Hitler's Brown Shirts in 1933 likely because its records, including 40,000 confessions from members of the Nazi Party, would have exposed the sexual perversions of Nazi leadership. Lenz said that “not ten percent of the men who, in 1933, took the fate of Germany into their hands, were sexually normal.”
In fact, the Nazi Party began in a gay bar in Munich, and Ernst Roehm, Hitler's right hand in the early days of Nazism, was well-known for his taste in young boys. William Shirer says in his definitive “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich,” not only that Roehm was “important in the rise of Hitler,” but also “like so many of the early Nazis, (he was) a homosexual.”
Hitler eventually had Roehm shot, not because he was a homosexual but because his influence over the Brown Shirts made him a political threat to Hitler's control. The Roehm Purge, or “Night of the Long Knives,” was largely implemented by homosexuals.
Hitler's Brown Shirts, the dreaded SA, better known as “Storm Troopers,” were the creation of another homosexual, Gerhard Rossbach, and Storm Troopers were almost exclusively homosexual. They also, sadly, comprised most of the leadership of the Hitler Youth, resulting in frequent instances of sexual molestation.
The problem with this theory is that generals do not fire on anybody. They order their subordinates to order other subordinates, etc., and eventually a squad leader orders his privates to fire on somebody.
Even if the general is personally ordering some Air Force pilot with a joystick, flying a Predator, to fire on civilians. If the pilot doesn’t want to, he doesn’t.
The basic problem here is that leftists truly believe that all military people are stupid thugs who couldn’t get any other job, and will obey *any* order given to them by anyone who “outranks” them.
So imagine Dianne Feinstein walking up to a bunch of soldiers and “ordering” them to start shooting at a Tea Party demonstration. “I’m a US senator and I *order* you to shoot those people! Obey me! Obey me!”
If even one private acts like he might, the others will intercede telling him to cut that stuff out. Not a lawful order.
Why on earth does the weather service need ammo? Maybe that’s a dumb question, but off the top of my head, I can’t think of a reason.
Totally credible allegation.
If the government goes after conservatives, libertarians and gun owners, in an existential way, the government will be faced with asymmetrical warfare. Resistors will not simply cower in their homes waiting for the next SWAT raid, they will disperse and go on the offensive. Resistors will not target the highly protected, and high ranking politically connected chiefs, but instead, direct their energies against the thinly protected bureaucrats, low level pols, government workers and their families. Financial institutions, IRS, transportation, communication, water supply will be targeted. Encouraging instability in the cities, through arms sales or by engaging diversionary crimes, among poor minority populations will also be needed to tie down government forces.
The advantage for guerrilla forces is not having to defend targets, mobility and ability to blend in with the general population. In order to be effective at the onset, the resistor forces need to be small, dispersed and without a central organization.
This is how organizations such as the Mexican and Columbian narco traffickers have gained control of large segments of their respective countries.
You haven’t been around many black members of the armed forces, particularly the US Army. The number of black officers i met who were rapidly anti-israel and pro-Arab was disturbing. The number of black enlisted men who baldly stated that anything ‘their’ president ordered them to do they would be happy to do was shocking. Blacks in general in the US increasingly tout not being ‘Americans’ but privileged ‘others’. A lot of those who see themselves as ‘others’ wear the uniform of one service or another. They see white Americans as ‘whitey and the enemy’. This is part of the fruits of multiculturalism.
Not if you stick with the recomended loads.
If they were FMJs for target practice, it wouldn’t be so unsettling as the huge percentage which were actually more expensive HPs. That smacks of ‘something bad coming’. You’re right.
I think you misunderstood my comment. I did not advocate anything. It was simply a compliment to eloquence. That’s all.
Not sure how you read all that into what I said.
Stanley McChrystal’s comments I sadly suspect reflect the consensus of flag officer. And then I recall my first post at FR regarding the attack on the Bonus Army camp in the Anacostia section of Washington DC lead by MacArthur, with Eisenhower and Patton participating without reservation even though they knew that Hoover had not authorized the action.
We’re way overburdened with admirals, generals, and ambitious colonels. Time to cull that herd, send them out to pasture. Maybe a goodwill trip to Russia aboard a skytrain of old Tupelovs?
Google “West Point civil unrest”
(Why were posts pulled yesterday with this same info?)
I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic
So begins the Oath of Enlistment for the U.S. military, but in an explosive interview with a National Guard whistleblower shown below, soldiers are now being advised they will be ordered to break that oath should civil unrest erupt across the country.
The Bonus Army didn’t come equipped with 10,000 Springfields and Enfields.
Just fill the case with powder, then hammer a bullet down, right?
Are there different kinds of gunpowder?
Open your eyes, its been the citizens buying everything that will go bang. Likely half of what Gubmit has bought has already been sold on the black market.
From what we have seen of the Homeland Security (big buyer of ammo)they can’t hit their own butt with both hands, much less hold off a shite-load of PO’d citizens.
SOMETHING VERY BAD is going to happen...
Yep, right after SHTF, we are going to rapidly run out of good rope and lamp posts!
I am quite sure that is exactly what the Germans and Japs were thinking in 1940.
Why on earth does the weather service need ammo?
You have no idea how much I appreciate your reply.
Semper fi, FRiend. President Buckwheat is cooked.
On another note; I wouldn't count on lots of rational consideration or compassion from anyone facing me with a weapon in his or her hands and orders to make sure I behave myself.
The great consideration is that any potential confrontation will likely be between the common folks and either reservists or the NG, both of which are likely to be innured to combat while trying to remain sane while existing in-between those common folk and the standing military. In that instance you have to weigh "citizen soldier" against "guy with a weapon and orders from recognized authority".
Your opinions will not determine the other guy's actions.
Did that. One article links a thread on FR which has been deleted. Odd since FR maintains a huge database.
It is easy to do go get a book on reloading.. And do it soon.
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