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To: driftless2

I would like to provide some food for thought on the question of our police & military forces transformed into enforcers of the will of the State:

It is said that both the Gestapo and the East German Stasi relied on informers at the ratio of one secret police agent to every five informants. The difference was that under Nazi rule the snitches were nearly all volunteers enamored of Hitlerism, while under Communist rule the informants were unwilling but compromised citizens, informing on their neighbors in order to save their own hides.

Government snitch hotlines have been used in the U.S. previously and are likely to be used again in states like New York & Connecticut. “Call this number to report an illegal gun, and you don’t have to give your name!”

If a full blown confiscation campaign ever eventuates, the govags will encourage neighbor to spy on neighbor, both to facilitate rounding up guns, and to divide & conquer the populace (in the Third Reich it was called `the atomization of society’).

Either the snitch lines will be spammed to death (if people act to resist) or neighbors with grudges will use them for revenge.

Another perspective: in the Soviet Union under Stalin, the NKVD attempted to use “anonimkii”, which was to denounce suspected opponents of the regime, using letters mailed to police headquarters with no return address or even signature. This quickly spun out of control with thousands of anonimkii & thousands of false arrests until the NKVD ended the practice & returned to using known informants to smoke out dissidents.

Govags already know they don’t have the numbers to kick in every door in America; they will resort to force multipliers such as I have noted above.

Thoughts, anyone?


146 posted on 01/30/2013 11:07:50 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970

Excellent commentary. I have discussed this very issue with my brother. It will happen, make no mistake.


151 posted on 01/30/2013 11:34:02 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: elcid1970
My point was before there could be any type of gun confiscation, a dictatorship would have to have been set up first. Which means total control of the armed forces and police orgs. Before that would happen, there would be a civil war. Which is what happened in Russia.

By the way, I wonder if a lot people know that the Allies after WWI tried to overthrow the Bolsheviks in 1919. The military expedition never got very far as the Allies were tired of fighting from WWI. Too bad. I doubt the Bolsheviks could have stood up to a sustained and deliberate assault by the victorious armies. The reason the Bolsheviks signed a peace treaty with Germany in 1918 is because they knew the German army was far too strong for the Red Army to oppose. The Bolsheviks wouldn't have stood a chance against the combined might of the Allies.

152 posted on 01/30/2013 11:38:13 AM PST by driftless2
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To: elcid1970
Simple, IMO.

You take the fight to your enemy, you don’t wait around for them to pick you off a few at a time.

You either fight the police state to it’s demise or yours.

Go on the offensive. Death can take you at any moment from any direction, so do the best job you can with the tools you have at your disposal. Survive as long as you can and take as many of the enemy down as you are able.

Don’t sit around waiting for your turn to be picked off, snitched on, or what have you. I refuse to live under their boots in such a manner of life. If you choose to live like that, fare well.

157 posted on 01/30/2013 11:53:50 AM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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