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Piers Morgan Shocked By ‘Unbelievable Power’ After Firing Assault Rifles At Texas Gun Range
Mediaite ^ | February 4, 2013 | Matt Wilstein

Posted on 02/04/2013 9:24:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama recently proved that he shoots skeet, and now Piers Morgan can say he’s shot an AR-15. Morgan traveled to Texas today to find out what it’s like to shoot the gun “used in the last five mass shootings in America,” including Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Morgan interviewed the owner of a Houston gun range, as he took his turns firing various version of the AR-15 semi-automatic rifle with a 30-round magazine. His aim wasn’t perfect, but as Morgan said, “once I got the hang of it and began pressing the trigger faster and faster, it was just firing very, very fast.”

He proceeded to shoot an AR-15 that had been modified from semi-automatic to fully automatic, a procedure that is illegal, but as the range owner explained, fairly easy for individuals to do with parts that can be purchased legally. Morgan said it felt “unbelievably powerful.”(continued)

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did the little limey wet his drawers?


51 posted on 02/04/2013 11:38:37 PM PST by GraceG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He proceeded to shoot an AR-15 that had been modified from semi-automatic to fully automatic, a procedure that is illegal, but as the range owner explained, fairly easy for individuals to do with parts that can be purchased legally. Morgan said it felt “unbelievably powerful.”

To do that is a big time Federal Offence that will put you ass in jail for many years. In effect Piers Morgan is asking us to believe that the owner of a gun range supplied and let him shoot a modified and illegal weapon knowing that he is a journalist that would print and talk about the use of an illegal weapon!!!!!!!

This is Bull SH--!!!!

Piers Morgan is a liar or the owner of the gun range is an idiot. I do not think the owner of the gun range is an idiot>

52 posted on 02/04/2013 11:43:48 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Piers Morgan Shocked By ‘Unbelievable Power’ After Firing Assault Rifles At Texas Gun Range

Why not make the pansyass shoot something that actually is powerful, like a .458 Winchester or a .460 Weatherby. Put him at a bench rest with a couple of boxes of 500 grain FMJ cartridges for a morning of pleasure. Make sure he pays for the ammo. LOL!

53 posted on 02/04/2013 11:56:59 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course he will report the AR-15 is fully automatic, sprays bullets at thousands of rounds per minute and is more powerful than a bazooka.


54 posted on 02/05/2013 12:40:05 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a poosy and WTF?

An AR has Kick????

LOL, you faggot poofter. I can barely feel that thing recoil.

Why don’t you try my 30-06 Remington 770, Bolt Action. Hell, I’d give it to you. I hate the damn thing. Hurts my shoulder and because I start anticipating pain, after about 25 rounds, my shots go from dead on to all parts of the universe.

Oh, and I’ll keep the scope. You ain’t gonna need a Leupold MK IV and I’m gonna need it for my new Remington 738.


55 posted on 02/05/2013 12:47:35 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Chasaway
Then hand him a bolt .300 Winchester or Weatherby Magnum and let him shoot, say, 10 rounds out of that.

He would never survive the repeated recoil...and if he did, ya just know that he would grasp the barrel with his bare hands as he put it over his back just like you see in all the old WWII movies.
56 posted on 02/05/2013 12:57:55 AM PST by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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To: MileHi

It is not easy, unless you are a machinist and have the tools and parts needed to do it. The receivers on civilian AR-15 lower receivers would have to be milled to accept the sear. It is my understanding that the fire control group parts and the sear needed for the conversion to full auto are restricted and not available to your average person. I believe the full auto bolt carrier is also restricted but I am not sure about that. I ran a small arms repair shop in the Army for a few years and have looked at what it would take. It is beyond my skill level to do.


57 posted on 02/05/2013 1:02:17 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: MileHi

It can be done. Generally, those types of modifications make the weapon unsafe, unreliable, and fairly inaccurate.


58 posted on 02/05/2013 1:14:09 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: MileHi

Not easy for average Joe’s to do such .... Correct.

To bad they let this Piers of shit in Texas .

Stay safe Mile Hi !


59 posted on 02/05/2013 2:53:38 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
including Sandy Hook Elementary School.

havent we been told several times that the AR was in the trunk and never used?

60 posted on 02/05/2013 3:14:21 AM PST by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: MileHi

Surprised Ted let him get the Yeman comment in ..... America and Yeman on his armed society is a polite society statement. piers of shit says America and Yeman are most armed countries and Yeman is second per population.

Difference Piers of Shit is Yeman is a TERRORIST SPONSORED STATE filled with islamakazies cultists you pussified ignorant twit ....

Piss poor Peirs of shit poster boy for the gun grabbers agenda.

The media importing trash like piers of shit into America is no less than the Taliban sneekng in terrorists. They both want to destroy this nation while profiting from its riches and citizens hard earned liberty.

My enemies..... Starve the beast as possible. Vote with your dollars and actions between elections folks !

Doom on em all.... Stay safe MileHi ! ... My opinion.


61 posted on 02/05/2013 3:23:29 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have Piers fire a 12 ga. pump loaded with slugs from his chin so he can feel what real POWER is. Otherwise, he’s just your typical Lefty, elitist, poofter British snob. He probably wet himself when the AR-15 went “bang!”.


62 posted on 02/05/2013 3:37:49 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: MileHi

Yeah. This range owner really pissed me off with his comments. This didn’t help us.


63 posted on 02/05/2013 3:47:47 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama recently proved that he shoots skeet...”

...that turd proved that he has someone good at photoshop.


64 posted on 02/05/2013 4:49:10 AM PST by albie
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To: jospehm20

Just a question about select fire. Don’t outfits like the one on Sons of Guns do conversions all the time. They deal in some very heavy firepower. Didn’t they make a quad mount for MG 42s?


65 posted on 02/05/2013 4:59:04 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, Piers. And should a SWAT team invade my home without cause or without a warrant, but with such “unbelievable power”, how exactly am I supposed to fight back??


66 posted on 02/05/2013 5:17:33 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Paladin2
My older brother told me a similar story. He was in boot camp in the late 60’s and told me the DI put the M16 to his family jewels and fired away.
67 posted on 02/05/2013 5:24:19 AM PST by 4yearlurker (No matter who you elect,the government eventually gets in.)
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To: G Larry

I believe what Pier meant was that when he fired it on autonatic he was amazed that he could spray out bullets and eventualy use the spray to get on target he couldn’t hit with a single bullet.


68 posted on 02/05/2013 5:28:15 AM PST by Venturer
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To: LukeL

Aint that the truth,my wife peed her pants when I let her take a couple shots with my 30.06


69 posted on 02/05/2013 5:28:55 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Chasaway

Love the sound of the “clip” going “clang” when they pop out of a beautiful M1.

I’m guessin’ he had on some “Grampers” so you couldn’t tell when he lost control of his............well, bladder and bowels probably.

Could he even pick up an S&W .500?


70 posted on 02/05/2013 5:39:03 AM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: xkaydet65

I don’t know how hard it would be to convert other types of weapons. Red Jacket does have a fairly well equipped machine shop on site. They could do a lot of stuff you average guy in his basement could not.


71 posted on 02/05/2013 5:45:44 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

le Douche extraordinaire Piers Morgan I wish Texas had tarred and feathered him and put him on a plane back to the glorious intellectual paradise know as the U.K.

Piers, we don’t give a fat F how they do it in jolly ole England. You are a perfect example of a Queen lead by a Queen.


72 posted on 02/05/2013 6:07:21 AM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Ted Nugent should invite him down to Ted’s ranch in Waco and see if the pu$$y could survive the weekend.

*cough* .45-70...*cough* *cough*


73 posted on 02/05/2013 6:20:13 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gosh...I’ll bet Ted could get hold of a .577 T-rex rifle.


74 posted on 02/05/2013 6:22:49 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: GraceG

[Did the little limey wet his drawers?]

His parents didn’t name him peers for nothing.


75 posted on 02/05/2013 6:43:41 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Piers” IS a PU$$Y-A$$ “Brit” so someone shoulda handed him one of THESE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee-Enfield Tell him that his countryMEN were dropping “Jerries(WWI)” and “Krauts(WWII)” with them.


76 posted on 02/05/2013 6:48:31 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: jospehm20

Thanx. I didn’t really make myself clear. My question wasn’t about the mechanical end but the legal side. This guy in Texas did a select fire conversion and has been accused here of violating federal law. Red Jacket has often worked with full auto weapons and are not under any federal indictment. So my question is what exactly is the law for automatic weapons?


77 posted on 02/05/2013 7:32:26 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He proceeded to shoot an AR-15 that had been modified from semi-automatic to fully automatic...

Who in their right mind would admit to owning such a thing? "Owning a range" wouldn't protect you from the wrath of the feds, nor would a FFL or any amount of NFA documentation. If the mod was done after 1986, that gun is an all-expenses-paid ticket to Leavenworth.

Perhaps it was a legally-owned NFA M16 and Piers was just tarting up his story a bit?

78 posted on 02/05/2013 7:56:16 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: xkaydet65

As I understand the law, it has been illegal since the passage of the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 for a civilian to own a newly manufactured full auto weapon in the USA. I was under the impression that the existing ones may be transferred but no new ones can be manufactured for civilian use.


79 posted on 02/05/2013 8:11:57 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

Thanx for the info. If that means a pre 86 weapon can be modified then you’ve answered my question.


80 posted on 02/05/2013 8:15:53 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: SERKIT

No. A shotgun was left in the trunk.


81 posted on 02/05/2013 8:20:06 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: xkaydet65; jospehm20
Since 1986, no one, not even God Himself, can legally convert a semi-auto into an auto. There is no license, no stamp, no anything that you can get that will permit you to do it.

If it shoots full-auto, it was either born that way or it is jailbait.

82 posted on 02/05/2013 8:21:15 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: xkaydet65; jospehm20
A pre-86 weapon could have been modified pre-86. If it was modified since then it is contraband, no matter when it was made.

That said I'd HATE to have to try and prove when a weapon was modified. I have no idea what standard of documentaion would be required, but it would probabaly be more than you could produce. No thanks!

83 posted on 02/05/2013 8:33:41 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Squantos; All

BS on display.

Thanks for the feedback


84 posted on 02/05/2013 9:49:48 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Robert357
LOL, make it a Mosin M44 carbine. Stoke it with good Finnish 180 GR ammo and set up a net to catch his shoulder when it flies off.

A Marlin 1895 Guide Gun in .45-70 would be a fun choice, too.

85 posted on 02/05/2013 10:15:41 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: jboot

I thought that was the case but I was not sure.


86 posted on 02/05/2013 10:38:41 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Piers, those weapons have no more power than those built 100 years ago, before WWI. In point of fact, the most popular models of handguns, like the 1911, are designs that are over 100 years old.

Further, the Constitution authorizes Letter of Marque and Reprisal, so that private citizens with their own battleships could go take on the Barbary Pirates (Muslims taking Colonists slaves for sale in the Middle East and North Africa). We all know the lyric "To the shores of Tripoli"... this is what the Marine Hymn refers to.

So, Piers, how do you f-f-f-feel about the power of that firearm compared to a full-sized warship in private hands? Our forebears had FAR more firepower at their fingertips, WITH the blessings of our government, and over 200 years ago. Go ahead and tell us how "times have changed" and the "2nd Amendment doesn't apply to modern firearms" again.

87 posted on 02/05/2013 10:46:23 AM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: MileHi

Well, let’s see:

There’s a bit more material milled away at the top of the upper receiver. That’s probably not that difficult, but you need to know what to mill away. Oh, and you’ll need a mill.

The bolt carrier group in the M16/M4 has more mass - ie, there’s more material removed from the BCG on the AR-15. The additional mass of the BCG in the full-auto version helps slow down the cyclic rate of the rifle.

Difficulty: Well, you’d have to either find a M16 BCG, or add mass back to the AR-15 BCG. Adding mass back to the BCG could theoretically be done by making the additional sections of the BCG, filing them to fit, and assumes a skilled TIG welder to integrate them onto the existing BCG. Oh, and then we’re going to have to re-heat treat the BCG. I’d rate the difficulty as “high” without assuming a purchase of a M16 BCG.

Then there’s the changes in the trigger group. Let’s see if I can remember them all:

1. The tail of the trigger will be opened up in the center of the channel to allow the disconnector to ride through. Difficulty: Not that difficult with a small round file.

2. The disconnector has a “tail” on the M16 that just isn’t there. You’d have to find a new parts, or, make the tail and re-shape the existing material on the AR disconnector. Again, we’re assuming a skilled gunsmith with files and a TIG welder.

3. If you want burst-fire, then you need to find the burst disconnector.

4. The selector lever - you’d basically need to find a new one. Attempts to modify it for full auto would probably destroy it.

5. The M16 hammer has a “reverse hook” on it at the rear, to catch the full-auto disconnector. You’d need to make a new hammer or buy one. Welding on M16/AR-15 hammers and triggers will usually result in a molten blob of snot instead of a piece of metal.

I *think* that’s it, but I could be wrong. I don’t play with NFA stuff too often.


88 posted on 02/05/2013 12:52:33 PM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave
So the claim in the article is, um, dubious, at best.

Thanks once again for your insight!

89 posted on 02/05/2013 1:16:49 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Piers probably just made up the illegal conversion part so that the gun owner would be investigated.


90 posted on 02/05/2013 2:49:27 PM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: MileHi
Really? So the "range owner" admitted to being a felon as he lied about it being "fairly easy" to convert an AR to auto fire?

That's what I thought at first too. Go to the source of the article and watch the video clip. It turns out that Tactical Firearms is a licensed manufacturer of NFA Class III items. The owner described the procedure and said that the receiver needed to be modified and some parts needed to be swapped in to make it fully automatic. Piers asked if it were legal to do so and the owner waffled a bit and said buying the parts was legal but if you had both the AR-15 and the conversion parts it was criminal even if you had not assembled the full-auto weapon. Piers said well criminals wouldn't care would they and the owner replied no they wouldn't.

The owner did a reasonably good job of presenting a second amendment case on things in general but I think he should have shut up about conversions, bump firing and slide stocks. There is no point in giving Morgan more information that he will never understand but will try to twist into a full auto weapon behind every tree.

Regards,
GtG

91 posted on 02/05/2013 5:08:36 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The .223 cannot even be used for hunting in WA and many other states because it is considered to be an inhumane method to put down a deer.

Listening to the MSM, one would believe they are WMD’s.


92 posted on 02/05/2013 5:52:17 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rktman

“PING!”

Whenever my first one pops out at the range, all kinds of folks look, grin, comment, etc.

Pretty characteristic and identifying.

C


93 posted on 02/05/2013 6:58:21 PM PST by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: rktman

“PING!”

Whenever my first one pops out at the range, all kinds of folks look, grin, comment, etc.

Pretty characteristic and identifying.

C


94 posted on 02/05/2013 6:59:37 PM PST by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Agreed

FReegards


95 posted on 02/05/2013 8:31:12 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Chasaway

Weird as it is, even when I cut loose with my .357 at the range folks seem to wake up a bit. I guess cause they are popping 9mm and .40cal and they aren’t quite as............attention getting as the .357.


96 posted on 02/06/2013 9:17:33 AM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: jboot

I don’t think that’s true.

If they have a registered sear they can convert an AR into a fully automatic rifle.

People with registered HK sears have been converting HK 94’s into MP-5’s, legally, as well as converting AUG’s into full-auto with registered full-auto trigger packs.

Ed


97 posted on 02/06/2013 12:20:03 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: rktman

Once when I shot a deer with a pistol (Ruger Redhawk, .44 mag), I had someone with me. He’d been rifle hunting for YEARS!

Anyhoo, when I let that pistol off and knocked that deer down at @ 65 yards, his eyes were...well, let’s just say you could see a lot of white in his eyes for a bit.

The muzzle blast and reach of that particular round/shot impressed him.

More than loud; it’s a physical concussion.

[Just goofing around, we’d videotaped that hunt. He barely got the camera on the deer when I shot and you can see where the bullet hit the deer. Pretty amazing.]


98 posted on 02/06/2013 12:23:10 PM PST by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: Chasaway

Me likey!


99 posted on 02/06/2013 12:47:46 PM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: Sir_Ed
I'm not an expert on NFA but I believe that different guns have different components that "make" them a machine gun. For instance, in the case of the AK and the AR it is the receiver. In both cases a 2-pin receiver is a semiauto and a 3-pin receiver is a machine gun regardless of any other parts or markings. Full auto sears for AKs and M16s are not NFA registered, but M16 receivers and 3-pin AK receivers are.

I think that in the case of HKs, Steyrs and many other modern guns the receivers of semis and machine guns are identical and the fire control groups are the discriminator, hence the registered sear. You would not run afoul of the NFA rules unless you converted a semiauto sear into a machine gun sear (which is probably impossible).

100 posted on 02/07/2013 6:04:42 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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