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Please Don’t Secede, Texas—We Need You
The American Interest ^ | 02/13/2013 | Russell Mead

Posted on 02/12/2013 9:48:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The Lone Star state boasts all-star status when it comes to job creation and economic growth. Writing for City Journal, Wendell Cox brings us a great in-depth look at one of the healthiest state economies in the U.S. Texas job creation is well above the national average, with the number of jobs having grown 31.5 percent since 1995. Even more impressive, many of the new jobs were high-paying, coming from professional and technical fields. Cox explains why:

A pro-business climate has unquestionably been a substantial advantage. In its annual ranking of business environments, Chief Executive has named Texas the most growth-friendly state for eight years in a row. (California has been last for the same eight years.) The reasons included low taxes and sensible regulations; a high-quality workforce (Texas ranked second only to Utah in that category in 2012); and a pleasant living environment….

Part of the explanation for the high living-environment score is doubtless Texas’s low cost of living…. More than three-quarters of the cost-of-living difference between Texas and California can be explained by housing costs….

Read the whole thing. Cox makes well-supported points about why this particular state is doing so well.

Other states should be looking to Texas for inspiration. It’s no coincidence that Cox compares Texas and California so frequently in his article. California may still have the biggest economy, but at the moment Texas has all the momentum.

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TOPICS: Government; Society
KEYWORDS: secession; texas

1 posted on 02/12/2013 9:48:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

My understanding is that Texas entered into this mutated Union as a Sovereign Republic (a free ‘country’). If they want to secede from a “freely entered” union, they should be completely free to leave it. I wish more states would consider the same. This union is no more.


2 posted on 02/12/2013 9:50:44 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

Some wit suggested that were Texas to secede, their first act should be to make communism, socialism, and the Democrat party unlawful.


3 posted on 02/12/2013 9:52:13 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Spktyr

Texas ping! Thought you might like this article.


4 posted on 02/12/2013 9:52:34 AM PST by yorkiemom
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To: SeekAndFind

Secede the northeastern states and the west coast, instead. ;-)


5 posted on 02/12/2013 9:54:55 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is exactly the reason that Texas needs to secede. Hopefully, a few other conservative states will join it.


6 posted on 02/12/2013 9:56:10 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: familyop
Secede the northeastern states and the west coast, instead. ;-)

Till they starve to death, then reclaim it.
7 posted on 02/12/2013 9:57:00 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: SeekAndFind
It spends far less than California on education but ranks significantly higher. And California business leaders are growing more frustrated by the day, as Sacramento seems determined to squeeze them for ever more revenue.

I've noticed the former myself. I don't know about the entire state, but when I got my teaching certificate in Texas and was looking at local jobs, there were NO penions. A wonderful thing! Not only did that save the tax payers money, BUT I also think it helps with the quality of teachers. Seems contradictory, but here's how I see it: a pension system holds teachers into that position, whether they are good or bad at it. Without one, teachers who don't like the work feel free to leave and find something they do enjoy. And the job can be a labor of love, not just a source of money. I know CA has a ton of awful teachers who are working for nothing more than getting that huge pension. At the taxpayer's expense, of course!
8 posted on 02/12/2013 9:57:44 AM PST by yorkiemom
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To: kosciusko51
This is exactly the reason that Texas needs to secede. Hopefully, a few other conservative states will join it.

I figure the middle of the country (vertically) will be the nation that secedes. From Texas to North Dakota is usually solidly red in elections.
9 posted on 02/12/2013 10:00:21 AM PST by yorkiemom
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To: Gaffer

Texas has 3.2 million on Medicare and 4.5 million on Medicaid.
I doubt they’ll be seceding anytime soon.


10 posted on 02/12/2013 10:02:39 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Gaffer

“My understanding is that Texas entered into this mutated Union as a Sovereign Republic (a free ‘country’).”

I’m only aware of 2 states that entered the union as sovereign Republics - Texas and California.


11 posted on 02/12/2013 10:03:04 AM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Gaffer

>>My understanding is that Texas entered into this mutated Union as a Sovereign Republic (a free ‘country’). If they want to secede from a “freely entered” union, they should be completely free to leave it. <<

That is urban myth. Upon statehood any territory becomes the same as any other state. The War of Northern Aggression cemented that relationship.


12 posted on 02/12/2013 10:05:40 AM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: Gaffer

Never understood this notion that a union needs to be perpetual. What for? Because it feels good to know that?

Just look at how much Europe changed over the past 800 years. Nations like Milan, Prussia, Argon, Wales, Yugoslavia, and the Kalmar Union no longer exist and the world got along just fine. One day Scotland, Venice, and Catalonia will be independent nations and the world still wont implode.

Hell, no one said N. America would become a battleground just because there are several new nations here. What would be the point of that?


13 posted on 02/12/2013 10:07:57 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: yorkiemom
It spends far less than California on education but ranks significantly higher.

Actually California spends a lot more on the education system. I doubt that they spend as much on real education.

14 posted on 02/12/2013 10:07:57 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Texas is not going anywhere. It will go blue before seceeding. This national push to flood it with California commie refugees and a few more illegals will guarantee it.


15 posted on 02/12/2013 10:16:37 AM PST by Axamari
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To: freedumb2003
That is urban myth. Upon statehood any territory becomes the same as any other state.

That kind of assumes that Texas is looking for anybody's permission to secede.

16 posted on 02/12/2013 10:17:17 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Not at all a bad idea.

Perhaps Boehner and his pals might want to take that up.

After they grow a pair, that is.


17 posted on 02/12/2013 10:19:58 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: kosciusko51

How about this for an idea?

Tell California, New York, Massachusetts, Illinois and a few other states that they are no longer needed or wanted to remain as states?

That from this point on, they are on their own.


18 posted on 02/12/2013 10:22:37 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: humblegunner

>>That kind of assumes that Texas is looking for anybody’s permission to secede. <<

When it comes down to it I, as a new Texan, will stand with my Texas brethren against the progressive obama states of liberalism.


19 posted on 02/12/2013 10:23:13 AM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: kosciusko51
It's Time to Part Company
20 posted on 02/12/2013 10:23:13 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance........)
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To: SeekAndFind

Texas cannot secede but it can divide into five states. It should seriously consider this option.

Going from 2 to 10 senators would fundamentally change national politics.


21 posted on 02/12/2013 10:24:24 AM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: freedumb2003

Texas was not a territory when it joined the Union.

Resolution Annexing Texas to the United States
(1 March 1845)

The annexation of Texas was a key issue in James K. Polk’s U. S. presidential election campaign of 1844. As a result, Polk’s victory that November was interpreted in the United States as a mandate to annex the ten-year old republic. Early the following year, a joint resolution for annexation passed both houses of the U. S. Congress—even before Polk’s inauguration. It was signed by outgoing President Tyler on March 1, 1845, subject to acceptance by the Republic of Texas.

The following summer, the Convention of 1845 met in Texas to consider the annexation issue. By a vote of fifty-five to one, the convention accepted the annexation offer by passing an Ordinance with virtually the same wording as the U. S. resolution.

The resolution, as shown below, contains several interesting provisions unique among the states. Under the agreement, Texas was to retain all of its “vacant and unappropriated lands,” as well as its public debts. In addition, Texas, which claimed a land area about 50 percent larger than that of the present state, was given the option to form out of its territory up to four additional states. The issues of land boundaries and public debt, however, would not be finally resolved until the Compromise of 1850.


Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States in Congress assembled, That Congress doth consent the territory properly included within, and rightfully belonging to the Republic of Texas, may be erected into a new State, to be called the State of Texas, with a republican form of government, to be adopted by the people of said republic, by deputies in convention assembled, with the consent of the existing government, in order that the same may be admitted as one of the States of this Union.

2. And be it further resolved, That the foregoing consent of Congress is given upon the following conditions, and with the following guarantees, to wit:

First, Said State to be formed, subject to the adjustment by this government of all questions of boundary that may arise with other governments; and the constitution therof, with the proper evidence of its adoption by the people of said Republic of Texas, shall be transmitted to the President of the United States, to be laid before Congress for its final action, on or before the first day of January, one thousand eight hundred and forty-six.

Second, Said State, when admitted into the Union, after ceding to the United States, all public edifices, fortifications, barracks, ports and harbors, navy and navy-yards, docks, magazines, arms, armaments, and all other property and means pertaining to the public defence belonging to the said Republic of Texas, shall retain all the public funds, debts, taxes, and dues of every kind, which may belong to or be due and owning to said Republic of Texas; and shall also retain all the vacant and unappropriated lands lying within its limits, to be applied to the payment of the debts and liabilities of said Republic of Texas, and the residue of said lands, after discharging said debts and liabilities, to be disposed of as State may direct; but in no event are said debts and liabilities to become a charge upon the Government of the United States.

Third, New States, of convenient size, not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas, and having sufficient population, may hereafter, by the consent of the said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the federal constitution. And as such States as may be formed out of that portion of said territory lying south of thirty-six degrees thirty minutes north latitude, commonly known as the Missouri compromise line, shall be admitted to the Union with or without slavery, as the people of each State asking permission may desire. And in such State or States as shall be formed north of said Missouri compromise line, slavery, or involuntary servitude, (except for crime) shall be prohibited.

3. And be it further resolved, That if the President of the United States shall in his judgement and discretion deem it most advisable, instead of proceeding to submit the foregoing resolution of the Republic of Texas, as an overture on the part of the United States for admission, to negotiate with the Republic; then,

Be it Resolved, That a State, to be formed out of the present Republic of Texas, with suitable extant and boundaries, and with two representatives in Congress, until the next appointment of representation, shall be admitted into the Union, by virtue of this act, on an equal footing with the existing States as soon as the terms and conditions of such admission, and the cession of the remaining Texian territory to the United States be agreed upon by the Governments of Texas and the United States: And that the sum of one hundred thousand dollars be, and the same is hereby, appropriated to defray the expenses of missions and negotiations, to agree upon the terms of said admission and cession, either by treaty to be submitted to the Senate, or by articles to be submitted to the two houses of Congress, as the President may direct.

Approved, March 1, 1845.


22 posted on 02/12/2013 10:25:31 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: VanDeKoik

Never understood the concept of deceptive practice and misrepresentation ? Consider the “Columbia Recod Club” as a parallel.


23 posted on 02/12/2013 10:29:07 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Owl558

I believe VT was independent before it entered the union.


24 posted on 02/12/2013 10:38:15 AM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Actually California spends a lot more on the education system. I doubt that they spend as much on real education.

Good catch. The teachers and administrators get the cash; the students get jipped.
25 posted on 02/12/2013 10:39:13 AM PST by yorkiemom
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To: SeekAndFind

If Texas does secede, I’m outta here. I’ll be on my way to Texas in a heartbeat. My oldest son has been trying to talk us into moving there anyway.


26 posted on 02/12/2013 10:40:06 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: Elderberry

Great research, EB! But it does say what I said — Texas is a State with no special secession privilege.

As to being a “territory,” I meant it was a definable area when it was admitted as a State (from your post: “That Congress doth consent the territory properly included within”).

But “Republic of Texas” would have been more accurate.


27 posted on 02/12/2013 10:46:52 AM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: lonestar67
Going from 2 to 10 senators would fundamentally change national politics.

Depending on where they draw the borders, a couple of those states could be Democrat controlled. Regardless, they can't do it without consent of Congress and I don't see Congress allowing it.

28 posted on 02/12/2013 10:48:45 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d like to see a broader secession movement but the first state that tries it has a death wish unless someone does them a solid and uses one of the mythical missing Soviet suitcase nukes on DC first. Sure, Texas has great resources and infrastructure and could make it on it’s own. Unfortunately DC has a dozen carrier battle groups. Just one of those could turn Texas into a 3rd world country. And anyone who thinks Americans won’t fire on Americans needs to crack a history book. It’s happened more than once. A lot more.


29 posted on 02/12/2013 10:53:11 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is under three terms of pro-gun, pro-life, pro-religious freedom, pro-capitalism Rick Perry. Folks were too hard on him. We’d be in a much better place right now if he were president.


30 posted on 02/12/2013 10:57:16 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Axamari

” Texas is not going anywhere. It will go blue before seceeding. This national push to flood it with California commie refugees and a few more illegals will guarantee it.”

This. I looked long and hard at Texas as a potential relocation possibility. I wanted to love it and there was a lot to love, BUT demographically, the game is already over. CA just tipped over the demographic edge this year and went majority hispanic. It is already a one party state and a majority hispanic population will ensure it will never recover. Texas is running the same deficit and will turn into the same situation, it will just take a little longer. Throw in a little amnesty and it will be quicker.


31 posted on 02/12/2013 11:10:55 AM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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To: HomeAtLast

“...VT was independent before it entered the union.”

That is so cool - The Vermont Republic, Freedom and Unity.


32 posted on 02/12/2013 11:21:19 AM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Some wit suggested that were Texas to secede, their first act should be to make communism, socialism, and the Democrat party unlawful.”

And unless we also deported the life-long parasites that vote Democrat, secession would not accomplish too much.


33 posted on 02/12/2013 11:30:02 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: All

Good post on Right to Seceed:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2976737/posts


34 posted on 02/12/2013 11:31:39 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: humblegunner

“That kind of assumes that Texas is looking for anybody’s permission to secede.”

That’s it exactly. When it comes down to the ‘Declaration of Independence” moment, there are 2 ways to go - easy or hard.


35 posted on 02/12/2013 11:31:56 AM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: lonestar67

“Texas cannot secede but it can divide into five states. It should seriously consider this option.”

Yes and no. This was a provision in the first Texas constitution, but there have been several constitutions since then. I believe that first Texas constitution also had provisions for Texas withdrawl from the union within a certain time-frame, but it has been a few years. The modern Texas constitution doesn’t have this stuff in it.

Texas founding is unique in our history and so worth studying.


36 posted on 02/12/2013 11:39:30 AM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Owl558

I’ve read arguments that Texas “isn’t allowed” to secede.

Well, neither were the original colonies.

“It’s against the law!” Say some.

What law, citizen?
Some law back in your hometown?
STFU, GTFO and take your fail with you!

(My apologies to Heinlein for bastardizing his quote)


37 posted on 02/12/2013 11:46:59 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: freedumb2003

“That is urban myth. Upon statehood any territory becomes the same as any other state. The War of Northern Aggression cemented that relationship.”

Funny, King George also thought it was illegal for states (colonies) to secede.


38 posted on 02/12/2013 12:19:26 PM PST by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: gop4lyf

>>Funny, King George also thought it was illegal for states (colonies) to secede.<<

He was right. If it comes to arms, then so mote it be.


39 posted on 02/12/2013 12:22:13 PM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: Owl558

“That kind of assumes that Texas is looking for anybody’s permission to secede.”

That’s it exactly. When it comes down to the ‘Declaration of Independence” moment, there are 2 ways to go - easy or hard.

Remember the civil war didn’t start because the south seceded... It started when the south attacked Ft. Sumter...

If Texas was really careful there could be no reason for the US to attack them.


40 posted on 02/12/2013 12:25:38 PM PST by GraceG
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To: FlingWingFlyer
If Texas does secede, I’m outta here. I’ll be on my way to Texas in a heartbeat.

We have been telling our out of state kin, including our daughter and SIL, that they had better make sure their passports are current when visiting us in Texas.

41 posted on 02/12/2013 12:48:15 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dims are stupid, period. End of conversation.)
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To: GraceG

“If Texas was really careful there could be no reason for the US to attack them.”

We all love them, but “Texan” and “Careful” are not 2 words I associate :)

Rather, let’s pray that we can right this republic.


42 posted on 02/12/2013 12:54:54 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Owl558; Gaffer

The difference is that as usual, Texas was the real deal, created in war, with it’s own Navy and consulates, a real nation. Texas had to continue fighting and defending itself during it’s period of Sovereignty.

TEXAS-*”Formed as a separate nation after gaining independence from Mexico in 1836, the republic claimed borders that included all of the present US state of Texas as well as parts of present-day Oklahoma, Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, and New Mexico based upon the Treaties of Velasco between the newly created Texas Republic and Mexico.”

CALIFORNIA-*” Six days later, Fremont learned that American forces under Commodore John D. Sloat had taken Monterey without a fight and officially raised the American flag over California. Since the ultimate goal of the Bear Flaggers was to make California part of the U.S., they now saw little reason to preserve their “government.” Three weeks after it had been proclaimed, the California Republic quietly faded away.”*

VERMONT-*”The term Vermont Republic has been used by later historians[1] for the government of what became modern Vermont from 1777 to 1791. In July 1777, delegates from 28 towns met and declared independence from jurisdictions and land claims of British colonies in New Hampshire and New York. They also abolished slavery within their boundaries. The people of Vermont took part in the American Revolution and considered themselves Americans, even if Congress did not recognize the jurisdiction.[2] Because of vehement objections from New York, which had conflicting property claims, the Continental Congress declined to recognize Vermont, then called the New Hampshire Grants. Vermont’s overtures to join the British Province of Quebec failed.[3] In 1791, Vermont was admitted to the United States as the 14th state.”*


43 posted on 02/12/2013 7:19:39 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: ansel12

Thanks for the background. It is all facinating history.


44 posted on 02/13/2013 12:56:55 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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