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I spent some time looking at surveys regarding how people have guns in households and statistical military data regarding where our enlistees come from and in what percentages.
1 posted on 03/05/2013 2:08:10 AM PST by ZachJones
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Where did you come up with this idea?


52 posted on 03/05/2013 4:36:57 AM PST by 0.E.O
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Many will just follow orders. Some will not.

Most will follow their officers.


54 posted on 03/05/2013 4:37:20 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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What will happen if Obama Orders the U.S. Military to Confiscate Guns in America?

The fault is ours. Abe will explain from "the other side."

You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

Orders for the U.S. Military to confiscate guns in America will mean the crisis has been reached.. I hope that before it gets to that point drug-addled Obama is forced to understand that the military has taken sides and it ain't on his side.

58 posted on 03/05/2013 4:42:25 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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United States — gun facts, figures and the law

From GunPolicy.org

The estimated total number of guns held by civilians in the United States was 270,000,000 in 2007 and there have been 65,000,000 guns sold since Obama’s 2009 usurpation of the office of POTUS for a total of 335,000,000 guns held by civilians in the United States.

The defense forces of the United States are reported to have 3,054,553 firearms.

Police in the United States are reported to have 897,400 firearms.

Confiscation is not an option.

http://theobamafile.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1276945737&postcount=292


60 posted on 03/05/2013 4:52:40 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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We need to look at recent examples.

Kaddhafi’s Libya, one of the most despotic regimes in the Middle East, trained its soldiers to follow orders, no matter what. When Kaddhafi gave the order to shoot Libyans, 75% of the Libyan army deserted and went home to their provinces to protect their families, taking their weapons with them.

The soldiers that remained were raw recruits and officers in Kaddhafi’s elite guard. Thy were completely ineffective as a fighting force. Kaddhafi had to call out his southern mercenaries to quell the revolt.

After his mercenary goons attacked and killed students protesting at a university, all hell broke loose. The army deserters hooked up with the provincial militias and took the mercenaries down, shooting them in the streets, burning down the towns they lived in and hanging them from lampposts.

Ordering soldiers to kill family and friends changes the entire dynamic of what exactly the military will do.

And for you despicable FReepers inferring that our soldiers and Marines are no better than the Gestapo, KMA.


62 posted on 03/05/2013 4:57:25 AM PST by sergeantdave
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Obama will not order the military to confiscate guns.
Obama fears the military. He will first neuter the military and the sheriffs; then, he will order his civilian storm troops (TSA/DHS) to search homes and confiscate weapons.
63 posted on 03/05/2013 5:04:16 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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I have a few observations after 29 years in and around the military.

1. Admirals, Generals, most 0-6s, and about half of 0-5s are political creatures that think of their own promotion first. The ones that will not step in line will be removed quickly with ones that will. Sadly, I've never met an academy graduate that was a strong constitutionalist.

2. The junior officers and senior enlisted are 80% extremely conservative.

3. The enlisted force is a mixed bag. I'd say 60% conservative, becoming more and more conservative as you approach the pointy end of the spear.

I used to think that there was no way that the U.S. military would fire on U.S. civilians, but there are several factors that I think could bring that on.

1. Propaganda. If they are told that they are dealing with blood thirsty, treasonous, baby rapists, then they will be more inclined to kill them.

2. Response to false flags. If they are fired on while responding to “an incident”, it won't matter who is firing or from where, they will feel natural pressure to respond to who is around them.

3. Poorly trained troops.

I don't think so much of what would happen if our current front line troops were ordered to shoot, as what could happen in the future if someone wanted to push the military in this direction.

67 posted on 03/05/2013 5:25:56 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS)

1]Why would anyone even answer such a survey honestly?

2] Such questions are now a part of zerocare...definitely will NOT be answered by many folk.

3] Unless there is massive and coordinated resistance, it will be a repeat of Nazi Germany. Look how easily you take off your shoes and let them xray and fondle your junk.

No, as a matter of fact, I do NOT have a lot of faith in our resolve...some core harliners, yes but the majority? Not so sure...I’d LIKE to be sure but I am not.


72 posted on 03/05/2013 5:42:21 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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I don’t think that the one half of the million man military is a match for 100 million gun owners.

Even if you add half of the LEO’s.

They won’t be able to sneak up on everyone at once, and you’ll be able to see it coming, well in advance.


79 posted on 03/05/2013 5:54:51 AM PST by G Larry
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One thing we can be certain about. The barnacles stuck to the USS Pentagon will slavishly carry out the orders of any despot squatting in the White House. Their oath to defend the Constitution from “enemies, both foreign and domestic” means noting if their employment and retirement pension would be endangered.

The citizens of this nation should be fully aware that in any such conflict, they will be on their own. That’s why the Founders so wisely entrusted us with the Second Amendment’s RTBA.


80 posted on 03/05/2013 5:57:06 AM PST by txrefugee
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Maybe I’m alone with this opinion, but if an Army company was formed consisting of ghetto youts, that company would have no qualms about combing the countryside confiscating guns and ammo from rednecks.

Having an opportunity to beat up the people along the way would be considered just a legal version of “The Knockout Game,” and therefore a fringe benefit of the job.


99 posted on 03/05/2013 7:33:44 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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The troops will need to complete their sex education programs first....

Army Event Trains Military Personnel To Install Condoms As Fast As Possible

Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/9722/army-event-trains-military-personnel-to-install-condoms-as-fast-as-possible/#ixzz2MgDJQPOv


100 posted on 03/05/2013 7:33:44 AM PST by KeyLargo
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Never saw so many paranoid people.
Some of you are out of your minds.


126 posted on 03/05/2013 3:45:25 PM PST by freedomtrail (EEOC- Eventual Elimination Of Caucasians)
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If he made such a direct order I have no doubt it would make people choose sides as a war would break out with the first SWAT/RRT/DHS team on the first raid. Of course, we have some FReepers here that think such Americans that held out and got raided and slaughtered is a source of pride for the military, but I don’t. To think there are military personnel that would raid an American for possession of a firearm sickens me to death. I am a veteran and there is no way when I served would I have ever thought of doing such a thing. I know me, I probably would have immediate shot the officer giving such an order. I know my teammates, they would have raced me to the trigger. To even have to contemplate that our military would slaughtered Americans over possession of firearms tells me we should disband the leadership in this country and start fresh.


131 posted on 03/05/2013 5:16:02 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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[What will happen if Obama Orders the U.S. Military to...]

Well, hopefully it won’t be like that time when the Fabian Socialist Rockefellers had the Colorado National Guard massacre coal miners down at Ludlow:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre


135 posted on 03/06/2013 5:34:35 AM PST by TArcher (The Eunuchs are doing bidness on the steps of the temple... again.)
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