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How Will They Confiscate Your Guns?
Keep And Bear Arms ^ | July 21, 2000 | John A. Sutter

Posted on 03/11/2013 4:50:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

For decades I have heard gun owners claim that the government would never be able to confiscate our firearms because the government would lose too many men. The implication being, of course, that gun owners would actively resist confiscation, even to the point of shooting back. But I believe this thinking is outdated and doesn’t align very well with reality. But before you tell me how big your honor guard in Hell will be when that day comes, let’s think about how the government could really do it.

Suppose, for the sake of argument, the government bans all civilian possession of firearms at the end of this month. Congress passes a total ban and the President cuts his own re-election throat by signing it. Gun owners get some grace period to turn them in, even beyond the deadline, without being charged with a crime. If we use Australia and Britain as examples there will still be a significant number of firearms that are not turned in. Some estimates put the Australian turn-in at less than 25% and the British faired only about 28%. But Australians and the British have long been used to obeying almost every gun control law. Not so the Americans. When laws are passed that we don’t like, we bite. We scratch. We vote. So here we sit after the guns have been collected and the amnesties have run out. Now what? Send out the personnel carriers, swat and shock troops to seize the guns from those militia “terrorists” who refused to turn them in? Don’t be silly.

The government has lots of records about you. If you purchased a firearm since 1968, chances are that they have some record of it somewhere....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
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To: PotatoChop

I predict the ability to manufacture firearms via advanced small footprint manufacturing techniques will quickly overwhelm the ability of law enforcement to confiscate them.

The war on guns will be less effective than the war on drugs.


101 posted on 03/11/2013 7:04:23 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The well known gangs of confiscators will never be able to appear in public without massive protection brigades. If they don’t know that, a few whistling brass messengers would quickly, and decisively, inform them.


102 posted on 03/11/2013 7:06:09 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How Will They Confiscate Your Guns?

Well, one way is to claim you said something that wasn’t very nice. Then they get you arrested and asked to surrender your guns. If you don’t, bail will be set very high and your children will be without you while you sit in jail. If you’re a single parent they’ll have to go to foster care...unless you surrender the guns.


103 posted on 03/11/2013 7:12:21 PM PDT by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: 45Auto

“It would break the covenant of “governing by the consent of the governed”. At that point, all bets are off.”

That has happened many times over the years. It happened the very first time that the government made laws about the restriction of ownership, background checks and registration of weapons. There has been no uprising. Why would there be an uprising if the government enacts more gun legislation?


104 posted on 03/11/2013 7:19:05 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: TigersEye

LOL, I guess I used a poor choice of words. Nice facts and figures.


105 posted on 03/11/2013 7:25:53 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Doc Savage

You would have an easier time impoverishing the people by wrecking the economy and then having gun buy back programs because people need the spare cash.


106 posted on 03/11/2013 7:30:53 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
There has been no uprising. Why would there be an uprising if the government enacts more gun legislation?

There won't be an uprising.

Back when there was an uprising, the citizens didn't wait for the govt agents to come to individual doorsteps. The mere presence of the forces of the king on American soil, was enough.

Paul Revere didn't say "molon labe, come to my house and I'll put up one hell of a fight."

The enemy is on American soil. What do we do? Pay whatever is demanded. Pay their salaries. Pay for their vacations. Pay your licenses and registrations and health insurance and whatever else they tell you to pay for.

107 posted on 03/11/2013 7:37:47 PM PDT by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Americans tend to tell you where you can go and how you can get there.”

ROFL


108 posted on 03/11/2013 7:38:06 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: TigersEye

I like that,,


109 posted on 03/11/2013 7:39:33 PM PDT by Big Red Badger
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To: HomeAtLast

I agree. They would probably say something like, “The US government will pay $100.00 for tips of people you know who own guns.”


110 posted on 03/11/2013 7:42:46 PM PDT by drinktheobamakoolaid (If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: PotatoChop

“liberal socialist”

I do not like redundancy.


111 posted on 03/11/2013 7:47:46 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: drinktheobamakoolaid

Half of America is on the dole, more than half are living on income provided by the government (welfare, SS, SSI). Nearly everyone with children is getting free babysitting (public “education”) despite the damage it does to the child.

Half of America financially supports the government, despite the fact that the government has sanctioned the killing of some fifty million infants.

Oh but let ‘em come for our guns and we’ll show them a thing or two.


112 posted on 03/11/2013 7:56:48 PM PDT by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: nascarnation

War on Drugs,,,
Won that Fight,,,?
Right?
ok , ok


113 posted on 03/11/2013 7:59:00 PM PDT by Big Red Badger
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To: jsanders2001
Don’t assume LEOs will confiscate your guns without compunction. Many LEOs will probably be on your side and refuse to confiscate them. In fact they may turn on their masters...: )

I think that most LEO's in large cities are dyed-in-the-wool RAT bastard demoRATs and union thugs, who will jump at the chance to enforce gun confiscation against conservative, patriotic Americans. Even in my small home town of approx 15,000, and home to a WI state university, I wouldn't trust the LEO's as far as I could throw the tubby bastards. Sheriff depts I view as being mostly on our side... police departments I view as being mostly liberal demoRATs & unions, and dead set against gun ownership & the 2nd Amendment.

114 posted on 03/11/2013 8:11:12 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Ajnin

It’s just another side of the coin. The situation is not all doom and gloom although the MSM would like us to think it is and get us to give up. I post that not to suggest to anyone to think the opposite, that we’ve got it won, but to remind people that the true measure of American sentiment towards firearms and the 2nd Amendment is not what we see in the press. But we should fight like heck and even take the counteroffensive. Defense sucks! :-)


115 posted on 03/11/2013 8:14:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

I did my part to help him when I found him a used but not fired BushMaster AR-15 without a FFL check, just the way he wanted it.


116 posted on 03/11/2013 8:14:07 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: Big Red Badger

Good, I’m glad you do. Please see #115 for my thoughts behind that post.


117 posted on 03/11/2013 8:17:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: heshtesh

I see. Sounds like a good relationship. More power to you both!


118 posted on 03/11/2013 8:20:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

Nothing illegal TigersEye, watched on Pennswoods classified and spotted it for 1200.00, considering the enviroment these days not a bad find at all.


119 posted on 03/11/2013 8:43:06 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: heshtesh

Sounds great. I didn’t think you meant that it was illegal. Pretty soon it may all be illegal. The CO senate just voted to make all of my 30 rd mags illegal, private transfers (even loaning a gun to a friend or family member) and more. If I’m going to be a felon maybe I’ll keep my eyes open for an RPG.


120 posted on 03/11/2013 8:48:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: nevergore

You miss one item in your post on #87....

** Several media anchors kidnapped and debriefed during lie detector conversation.. with a few surviving.. to send a message.. maybe messages..


121 posted on 03/11/2013 8:56:18 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How Will They Confiscate Your Guns?

Posthumously.

122 posted on 03/11/2013 9:00:45 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Soylent Green is Boomers)
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To: Mike Darancette

I’ve made it very clear to my friends if I drop dead for whatever reason I expect them to remove my guns immediately as they’ll know how to dispose of them:)


123 posted on 03/11/2013 9:09:52 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: TigersEye

Don’t feel bad rumor is all my 30 rnd mags are illegal or going to be in NY.state, but you know how it is with rumors,(in one ear and out the other:)


124 posted on 03/11/2013 9:14:30 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: Doc Savage

Picking the low-hanging fruit won’t empty the orchard.


125 posted on 03/11/2013 9:24:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Pollster1

They will also garnish our wages, and electronically freeze all our accounts before moving in. These people are by nature cowards, and will try any means before risking their own butts. Their intent is to break us and make us bow before them, and then lick the dog crap off their boots. The hate these people have for us goes far beyond anything we can imagine.


126 posted on 03/11/2013 9:25:22 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I have been there. It is so awesome. The statue of Arminius is huge and series. Great place to visit. “Give me back my legions”. Arminius massacred all of them.


127 posted on 03/11/2013 9:28:19 PM PDT by crazydad (Obamamohamed is a traitor)
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To: heshtesh

Looks like Cuomo’s getting a little pushback from the NY Supreme court over his illegal (SAFE ACT)!!

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/14685-new-york-courts-may-kill-cuomo-assault-on-gun-rights


128 posted on 03/11/2013 9:38:18 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: Renegade
Yes, Red Dawn begins with the premise of a foreign military invasion of the inland state of Colorado. What? We'll be fighting ACORN, union thugs, OFA Youth, gangbangers and radical treehuggers, not North Koreans or Cubans.
129 posted on 03/11/2013 9:38:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: HomeAtLast
There are plenty of still mobile folks with military training who don't have kids at home, and live alone. Me, for one.

I've lived in a hand-made shack in the mountains way off grid. Through ALL of the seasons. Just because I could, and to learn what that experience taught me.

Not everyone is going to have pressure points. There's a bunch that don't.

/johnny

130 posted on 03/11/2013 9:57:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, Red Dawn begins with the premise of a foreign military invasion of the inland state of Colorado. What? We’ll be fighting ACORN, union thugs, OFA Youth, gangbangers and radical treehuggers, not North Koreans or Cubans.

It just does’nt seem fair,have you noticed how sharp some of those Acorn members are?


131 posted on 03/11/2013 9:58:51 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: crazydad
Yep. And the point is that the city slickers (the Romans) got bogged down in the back of beyond and got nailed to trees (literally) by the hicks (the german tribes).

A superpower's greatest army lost 3 legions (17th, 18th, 19th) in a very short time.

Sucks to be them.

/johnny

132 posted on 03/11/2013 10:03:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: heshtesh

They’re supposedly defunct now. I guess they think we’re as stupid as they are.


133 posted on 03/11/2013 10:52:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Donnafrflorida

If it really is a conservative county why is there not a recall for the sheriff? No way would this nonsense work where I live.


134 posted on 03/11/2013 11:19:05 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Wanderer99

I believe so too, and I am in a position to understand why. No need to give them more...


135 posted on 03/12/2013 3:19:54 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: Tammy8

He is one of the many sheriffs who signed the pledge to obey the constitution. go figure.


136 posted on 03/12/2013 3:43:41 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You’re right, but you’re part of a very limited exception. So few, I suspect the govt will just let your kind die out by natural causes.


137 posted on 03/12/2013 5:14:08 AM PDT by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: TigersEye

the ratio of 230 to 1 seems correct.


138 posted on 03/12/2013 6:35:15 AM PDT by Big Red Badger
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To: Kevmo
Here’s one way they confiscate: by having registration and background checks in place and a complicit media who prints the names of gun owners, it just became counterproductive to own registered guns.

In this end of North Dakota, they might as well just use the phone book...

139 posted on 03/12/2013 6:45:05 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Recall him.


140 posted on 03/12/2013 7:08:52 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: EandH Dad
The flip side of your scenario is that one innocent citizen, perhaps even a child, is killed by the storm troopers

That sort of thing would never be reported by the State Media.

I have yet to find anyone in any uniform say they would confiscate the first one. Not happening.

You probably haven't met any of obama's new National Civilian Force, have you? You know, the ones that they are buying the 1.6 billion rounds for.

141 posted on 03/12/2013 7:16:46 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Ajnin

They are never going to confiscate guns.
They are just going to keep the “guns are bad” meme in our schools until, in a few generations, gun ownership will make you and your family social pariahs.


142 posted on 03/12/2013 7:52:32 AM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Gritty

Putting away some spares for a ‘rainy day’ should not impact other considerations.

For those who do not have a spare then it is time to go get one, or two, or three, or four, or...


143 posted on 03/12/2013 8:50:39 AM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And the first time they do it, it’ll be challenged in court.


144 posted on 03/12/2013 9:28:13 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: 45Auto

Legal means? Worthless when the current regime is itself lawless. The rule of law in this nation was replaced by the whim of men some time ago.


145 posted on 03/12/2013 11:01:56 AM PDT by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Confiscation would be many orders of magnitude above all other gun laws. It would be a violation of the 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 14th amendments.


146 posted on 03/12/2013 12:09:22 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: RWB Patriot

Yeah, and we know the fascists in this country listen to what a court says, just like Chancellor Hitler did.


147 posted on 03/12/2013 12:39:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Big Red Badger

At the very least.


148 posted on 03/12/2013 12:50:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: MeganC

Nice idea, but too complicated. Spray cans of canola oil, a vacuum packer and the PVC pipe is easier and neater. [Don’t use olive oil spray since it is slightly acidic.] When you open the sealed weapons, plain old rubbing alcohol will clean them right up for oiling and use. Of course this system would only be viable for under fifty year storage ...


149 posted on 03/12/2013 2:39:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

“Nice idea, but too complicated.”

Not for us. We’re ranchers so all of the things we needed for our cache were already on the property. FYI the cache is NOT on our property.

(Everyone wave to the nice people from the BATFE!)


150 posted on 03/12/2013 2:41:19 PM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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