Posted on 03/23/2013 11:28:26 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
When the central government in the United States rams through a 2700 page bill that was not read by any person who voted for it and whose impossible promises of more-for-less are now being revealed as a fraud; when the government, without apparent concern, rapidly inflates the national debt to 16 trillion that it will admit to (actually it’s 83 trillion); when the federal government sues the state of Arizona to stop it from guarding the borders and enforcing federal laws concerning illegal aliens; and when the government announces that it wishes to ban all weapons that would allow citizens to resist government overreaching, how far distant is revolution?
This question must have run through the minds of anyone who has read the newspapers for the last four or five years. In today’s Wall Street Journal in the “Notable & Quotable” column, historian Paul Rahe, citing Tocqueville, writes:
“One key indicator [of readiness for revolution] is that those with access to the levers of power within the ruling order cease to believe in the religion or ideology that legitimizes the regime. . . . First goes the belief in the legitimacy of the system. Then comes a trigger–an event which causes large numbers of people to say to themselves, ‘I cannot take this anymore.’ Then, the crucial question is whether those in charge have the nerve to try to crush the rebellion and whether their underlings will follow orders. If the powers that be are hesitant, ambivalent, or divided, if their underlings are fed up, things can very easily come apart (as they did in eastern Europe, in the Soviet union, and in Tunisia, Egypt, libya, and Syria).”
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No revolution because the healthcare bill doesn’t affect people right away. It affects companies. And corps don’t lead revolutions. No revolution until the average guy on the street is fed up.
We are the leading edge. We are more aware.
Wait until EBT cards don’t work. That is when things go bad.
Your right, and as for the Federal subsidy for the increased premiums...those parents can not make more than 144% of the Fed Poverty Level to qualify, so the cost will be an out of pocket expense for most working people.
I scanned your answer and thought I saw Red Sox, not Redbox.
Red Sox fans go 100 years between Championships—so if you base it on that, we are good through 2100.
I’d go to war tomorrow if i thought anyone else would come with me.
As it is, that isn’t how these things work. Anyone jumping the gun will have poo flung at them from all the other monkeys.
It’s just how we work.
By the time everyone is ready, it’ll be far too late.
I think the answer is more prosaic than this article states.
We had a revolution once. The southern states decided to take state soveriegnty to its ultimate level and broke off to form their own nation. The consequence was the most bloody war in American history. It took the South a century to recover.
There’s a dim memory of that conflict in the American understanding of revolution. A similar war with modern weapons would be horrific, and both sides know it - even the leftists, who crave violence and whose supporters have talked glibly about killing 25 million Americans in order to cement their rule.
So we dance around the issues, moving up to actual conflict with actually crossing the line.
The best scenario I can see is that the left tries some kind of burning of the Reichstag moment - which, if history serves correctly, will be an actual event like 9/11 conflated by the left for their own purposes, not a set-up like in Germany or a coup like in Russia. They’ll go overboard, and the entire country will go Galt on them, including many in the Washington infrastructure, leaving Obama and the high-level bureaucrats screaming orders that are ignored. Eventually someone steps in - the military, the states collectively, an administration official willing to take the chance - and announces that the republic has just missed the bullet, and we need to arrest the guilty and gather together to rebuild. That’s the best scenario.
On the other end of the spectrum, one or both sides will have nuclear weapons and no restrictions on their use; Sherman’s March to the Sea, with an army of drones and chemical weapons, carving a path from New York to LA. It would take more than a century to recover from that; it would be our own version of the Pelopenesian Wars.
God help us.
How does a Cubs’ fan figure into that?
THere has never been a revolution and there will never be one because American’s do NOT care. Add in the changing demographics and the rush Left and we are just never going to have one. Glad I’m old.
Does anyone truly believe that the current administration in Washington -- not just Obamateur but Pelosi, Reid, et. al., including a number of hack RINOs -- is legitimate? Does anyone believe that legion of inepticons is worthy of our respect and obedience? Do their values match our own, and in the rare case where they do, do they have the courage to defy fashion and stand for those values?
At some point, Cubs fans will just take themselves out.
As bad as things are, a period of revolution would be much worse. Plus it is hard to determine if anything good will come after a revolution. I just don’t see anyone wanting something worse than what they have now.
If you are a self-sufficient farmer or hunter or herdsperson or backwoodsperson you are probably poor and want to get your piece of the government pie.
I think you probably ought to distinguish between getting entangled in a growing bureaucratic machinery and getting thrown into internment camps, though, and between things that may weaken the country and actual intent to destroy it.
I always go back to the words of some of the most politically astute men in history.
The same people who never ever question taking their children to the baby-sitter/indoctrination dumb-down camp we call public school, the same public propaganda camp that they attended year after year, in which they never learned a thing about our history, let alone what is happening now.
And this is just the poor working class...it does not include the 50% who are totally dependent on a government check.
MOST DO NOT KNOW or DO NOT CARE that there is a problem! That is why there is no revolution.
Because enough Americans will accept restrictions on their liberties so long as those restrictions come along slowly enough for them to delude themselves into thinking things will be fine if they simply adjust a little. Remember when 60+%. opposed Obamacare? Latest polls show fewer than 50% are in opposition now... even as the horror stories about it unfold. For those awaiting some kind of “we’re fed up and we’re not taking it anymore” outburst, don’t hold your breath.
A secession makes sense. A divide where there are 2 distinct places to go one socialist, one free.
Agreed
At this point, the only way the freefall could be stopped via an election would be a massive repudiation ala '72.
But it's a different world since then.
While being primarily clueless as to why, the Looters have seen that they hold the electoral keys to the EBT cards, and the shameless political whores know that their own existence depends on placating them.
Factor in:
* the incessant dumbing down of the publik skewls,
* the cynical ramping up of racial tensions,
* a socialist economy further down the toilet by the day,
. . . and the national fire danger just keeps inching higher and higher.
I only hope that when the S.finally.HTF, age has left me enough mobility to take out a few of the enemy traitor bastards as my way of saying FU.
IMO you are 100% correct.
At least 80% of the population depends on things staying the way they are for their job, their retirement, their security.
While many here see the government encroaching on their rights almost daily, for most of the population this is not a concern.
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