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The Blu-Ray movie format makes me want to puke.
29 March 13 | Scooter100

Posted on 03/29/2013 4:57:22 AM PDT by Scooter100

I've had it with the Blu Ray format; how about you? It's left a mouth-puckering, sour, stinking taste in my mouth.

When the new (complete!) Star Wars (Blu Ray) came out, I waited patiently for two months for my PowerDVD software to be "updated", or "fixed", or "patched", or whatever code word they use now for "we messed up". I similarly waited weeks for Disney's "John Carter" updaters in order to watch that one. Buy a Blu Ray and you never know what's going to happen when you get it home. Great, huh? What a product.

Heaven knows how many Win7, Java, Cyberlink/PowerDVD, LG Blu Ray Disc Firmware downloads, updates, and expensive software upGRADES (my PC is my A/V system) that I've performed. And because of all this fiddling and tweaking, I am now the proud owner of Blu Ray movies that NO LONGER PLAY. Silly me, I thought the more updates you perform, the more movies you could watch….unh-unh, no way. These prize goofs can turn off half your library with one little code blunder, or worse, at a deliberately designed whim……and then have the gall to tell you that you need a new disc drive, or a new player, or a new $49.95 software upgrade to play discs THAT USED TO PLAY JUST FINE. And don't think I haven't tried. I spent months in a four-way futility with LG/Cyberlink/Win7 over who caused my Blu Ray of "The King's Speech" to stop working.

Listen up Blu Ray industry. Last weekend, I bought a movie and purposely got the DVD version because I really wasn't sure that my software/hardware system would be able to play the Blu Ray version. Now there's confidence, huh? And while I'm at it, let me bring to your attention the REAL REASON that they are packaging movies with both the DVD and Blu Ray versions in one box……it's not because you might want to upgrade from DVD to Blu Ray some day. Nope….no it's not. It's because the copy protection updates and "patches" they are constantly performing on Blu Ray, will most likely render your system unable to play them…..even though they USED TO PLAY. Want to watch it, well get out your wallets.

Blu Ray, you've lost me. I'm frickin' through with you forever. Not going to play your software games anymore. I took all your "Godfrey Daniel" BLUE discs down to the local public library and donated 'em. See ya later Blu Birds, best of luck.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: bluray

1 posted on 03/29/2013 4:57:22 AM PDT by Scooter100
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To: Scooter100

I’ve had a Sony blue ray player for a few years now. Always works great.

But I have never upgraded it. I have no need to. I use it to watch movies and it does that great. There is a legal compatibility thing here. I rememder dealing with it regarding “Compact Cassettes” back in the 1970’s. To carry that label a cassette player had to play any cassette and a cassette had to play in any cassette deck. It was an issue with the four track cassette recorders because they used all four tracks to record in one direction.

I’ve assumed the same is true with Blue Ray, DVD, Laserdisk, etc. That is, if your player is a blue ray player, it MUST be able to play all blue ray discs, and if you have a blue ray disc, it must be able to play in any blue ray player.

Of course, I could be wrong about this, but if this compatibility is non-existent, it would kill sales of the format. That is the whole point of compatibility.


2 posted on 03/29/2013 5:06:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

Also, players are so cheap now that I’d just replace one rather than upgrade it.


3 posted on 03/29/2013 5:09:04 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Scooter100
It's left a mouth-puckering, sour, stinking taste in my mouth.

On a scale of 1 to 100, given the economic, political and social issues of the day, I'm unable to muster any concern.

4 posted on 03/29/2013 5:10:44 AM PDT by O6ret
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To: cuban leaf
I've had a Sony Blu Ray player for five years or so, and it plays everything as smooth as silk. Not only that, it's the best CD player I've ever had, the sound quality is very noticeably better.
5 posted on 03/29/2013 5:13:21 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Scooter100

Good luck with DVD.

Lately, playing newly purchased DVDs and even DVDs from Netflix means having to listen to previews and other commercials (in addition to the usual Gestapo copyright violation threat) before being allowed by the DVD format to access the actual movie.


6 posted on 03/29/2013 5:14:01 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: cuban leaf

You appear to have a stand alone player, looks as though the poster’s problem involves his use of a personal computer “(my PC is my A/V system)” as a go-between the DVD reader and the TV. imo


7 posted on 03/29/2013 5:14:17 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Scooter100

Hubby is the expert in this stuff, not me. But I think you need to get a dedicated blue ray player. We had a lot of problems when he was running the TV through a computer. The TV part worked OK, but with the blue rays we always had trouble.

That being said, although he refuses to watch any TV that is not in HD I don’t think he’s too crazy about the blue ray format.

Now, Directv needs to get game show network in HD (we had it with comcast) so that he doesn’t yell at me when I watch it.

I will say that technology that does not work as advertised really stinks. And that was not generally a problem back in the old, analog days. Things might break down, but they didn’t just NOT WORK.


8 posted on 03/29/2013 5:15:34 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Scooter100

My wife bought me a Blu-ray machine for Christmas (Samsung).
I took it out of the box, found a place for it in our entertainment center, went to store the following day for an HDMI cable, hooked everything up and turned the machine on.
Upon pressing the remote to open the tray, the tray came out and dropped onto the floor in from of the Blu-ray player.
I then unhooked everything, put the machine back in the box and we returned it to the store. I did not get a replacement.


9 posted on 03/29/2013 5:15:57 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: Scooter100

I am still using my old tape player.

In fact I got a new one the other day from Salvation Army store for $4.50 plays the old tapes just fine.


10 posted on 03/29/2013 5:17:17 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Scooter100
Bottom Line: Big Media does NOT want you to play their warez on a non-proprietary system.

They feel you don't own those warez/media you just pay rent on them.

11 posted on 03/29/2013 5:18:21 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Scooter100
I find the less expensive players give me the least amount of grief with just as good a visual performance, if not a little slower to load as top of the line.

And at that price, they are disposable.

Yep, I know what you are talking about from the problems friends have reported with top of the line players. They are the ones who are running into the most compatibility problems.

12 posted on 03/29/2013 5:18:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Scooter100

New bluray players are cheap. Why try to upgrade a DVD player?

Never-ever a problem with the 4 or 5 I have in various equipment. Laptops other computers and free standing units we have in the house.

You can get one for well under $100.


13 posted on 03/29/2013 5:23:32 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Scooter100

I have an older Panasonic BD player, had to send an e-mail to Panasonic requesting a software update once, no other issue at all. My BD library is now bigger than my DVD at over 800 discs. I will never go 3D, hate the whole concept, there thats my rant for the day.

I suggest the OP communicate with others over at the AVS Forums.


14 posted on 03/29/2013 5:27:11 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: Scooter100

I have no problems with our Sony BR player or any of the other attachments to our TV including an Android on a stick device. All play 1080 no problem, same with Netflix or other streaming content.

What DOES give me a headache is the dang “soap opera effect” because of higher refresh rates. Our 52” Sharp has a beautiful picture but after awhile the soap opera effect becomes irritating.

I’m getting used to it but it’s taking me a long time.


15 posted on 03/29/2013 5:30:50 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution togethe her as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Scooter100

Stop using VGA to connect your PC to your TV, and start using HDMI, and your BluRay movies will work again.


16 posted on 03/29/2013 5:32:27 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Scooter100

Buy a PS3 Player and then get Netflix ($8), Hulu Plus ($8) and Amazon Instant Video ($77/year)and you will have ZERO need for the Blu Ray Player. I have done this and do not have a single regret. Worried about money? Get rid of cable and just spend 16 dollars a month for Netflix and Hulu Plus and 77 dollars a year for the Amazon. Way cheaper than cable and you still get to watch current TV shows without commercials...a bonus!


17 posted on 03/29/2013 5:34:46 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Carl Vehse

how is it like the gestapo?


18 posted on 03/29/2013 5:39:03 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: Las Vegas Dave; Swordmaker

Steve Jobs called the BluRay spec “a big bucket of hurt”; I enjoy the high resolution and clean picture of BluRay, have never had a problem with any BluRay player (except this cheap Toshiba I got, HDMI-only, and noisy as hell), and have watched just one off a laptop, only problem was, no sound because it was DVI to HDMI (i.e. not the fault of the BluRay standard) so we plugged in external speakers.


19 posted on 03/29/2013 5:42:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Scooter100

Never bought one of those machines! Why? Remember Betamax and VHS? That’s why!


20 posted on 03/29/2013 6:11:06 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: kanawa

You appear to have a stand alone player, looks as though the poster’s problem involves his use of a personal computer “(my PC is my A/V system)” as a go-between the DVD reader and the TV. imo


I remember when DVD first came out I tried that. It saved me a few bucks but was not worth the hassle.

I can understand the OP’s frustration. I’ve had it with other stuff.


21 posted on 03/29/2013 6:27:03 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Scooter100

Am I the only one that does not notice a big difference between a plain DVD and a blue ray? I have a 47” Visio and a Playstation 3.


22 posted on 03/29/2013 6:28:14 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (What has the GOP done today to gain your support in 2014?)
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To: Scooter100

Buy yourself a stand-alone blu-ray player. No more problems.


23 posted on 03/29/2013 6:31:37 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Sybeck1

When was your last eye checkup? If your’re not corrected to 20/25 or better, you’re not going to notice the improvement.


24 posted on 03/29/2013 6:37:25 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: BuffaloJack

ps3 is the best blu-ray player, I’ve never had any trouble at all in years, it’s fast, reliable and it’s Sony heh. I actually don’t even play games on my ps3, I simply use it for blu-rays and netflix.


25 posted on 03/29/2013 6:44:20 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Sybeck1

Huge difference I have a ps3 as well, and I can barely watch dvd anymore, blu-ray is far better.


26 posted on 03/29/2013 6:50:47 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: BuffaloJack

Try a Sony. They don’t do that kind of thing.


27 posted on 03/29/2013 6:54:37 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Scooter100

Oh mannnn SING IT BROTHER! PRAISE the Lord and pass the peas!

I am soo sick and tired of Cyberlink/PowerDVD. A few years about I purchased a $600 video card because it was top of the line and was 100% bluray compatible. Worked perfectly, even though I had to update it to play new movies grumble grumble grumble!

Up until last year when they decided to stop updating the keys for my version. Now they want me to buy a new version of PowerDVD in order to play BluRay! And of course there are no free versions or discounted upgrades. They want me to shell out another $100 bucks for this new software. And the software wont run at all anymore. So I can’t play any DVD’s or Blurays using PowerDVD. I have had it with them! I wont buy their new crappy software! GGGRRRRRRRR


28 posted on 03/29/2013 6:58:56 AM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: libstripper

“Try a Sony. They don’t do that kind of thing.”

That’s because Sony owns the standard. It’s as if betamax won the tape format war.....

YMMV


29 posted on 03/29/2013 7:03:59 AM PDT by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: napscoordinator

What he said. You can also run free PS3 media server software on your PC and stream all kinds of stuff from it to your PS3.


30 posted on 03/29/2013 7:18:29 AM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Sybeck1

Are you running a HDMI cable between the two?


31 posted on 03/29/2013 7:19:47 AM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Yo-Yo
Not necessarily, HDMI was chosen as a standard not because it is a robust video delivery standard, but because of HDCP, or High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection. Many video card drivers will not allow content to be sent to a non HDCP device.

Many older televisions and projectors do not do HDCP and will therefore not play newer content.

There are also HD projectors an televisions that do not have an HDMI connector at all.

Hollywood should not be dictating how our players, computers and TVs are built so they can control what you do with media you purchased/licensed.

I no longer own disc players, cd or dvd, or a single disc.

My collection is all digital and all absent HDCP.

32 posted on 03/29/2013 7:29:11 AM PDT by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: Syntyr

Try VLC, it is free and plays almost everything without issue.


33 posted on 03/29/2013 7:30:06 AM PDT by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: InvisibleChurch
"how is it like the gestapo?"

Forcing my DVD player to run the notice on a legally purchased DVD without being able to bypass it.

34 posted on 03/29/2013 7:40:07 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Scooter100

The book is better.


35 posted on 03/29/2013 7:41:59 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Sybeck1

I have an HD video camera and video editing program and make my own Blu-ray discs on my computer then watch them with a Sony Blu-ray player on my HD TV. The image is FAR superior to DVD.


36 posted on 03/29/2013 8:26:51 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Carl Vehse

You’re right, that’s exactly like the gestapo. Good catch.


37 posted on 03/29/2013 8:46:20 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: Carl Vehse

The way around that is to get DVD ripper software, and use it to copy “just the movie” to your HD, eliminating the FBI warnings, previews, spam, and disk software it tries to load on your computer, etc.

Then, after you watch your movie, you just delete the files, and save the production disk in case there is any copyright argument against you.


38 posted on 03/29/2013 9:37:45 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Scooter100

My older Panasonic requires a broadband connection for its occasional firmware update, as I posted yesterday I had to e-mail Panasonic for a software upgrade disc, but though my house has no broadband my cellphone the Galaxy does have the optional wi fi hotspt, so after some thinking I went to Walmart and they had a more modern version BD Panasonic player with wi-fi, and it was marked down from 4100 to $70.

So I bought it yesterday, got the password thing all set up with my phone, it got its latest version, it loads much faster than the old player and has a ton of options like Netflix Youtube and such, now I can if I choose select more content online while I’m watching certain movies.


39 posted on 03/30/2013 12:33:00 PM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: O6ret
On a scale of 1 to 100, given the economic, political and social issues of the day, I'm unable to muster any concern.

You raise a valid point. Perspective is everything.
40 posted on 03/30/2013 12:35:48 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Scooter100
The point of new technologies is to get you to buy new stuff, not upgrade your old stuff. Think of it as part of the stimulus package.

I learned that with HDTV. I could only take so much trouble from my converter box, so eventually I went and bought a new television set.

I still have trouble with reception, but I've done my bit for the economy.

41 posted on 03/30/2013 12:43:16 PM PDT by x
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To: Yo-Yo
Stop using VGA to connect your PC to your TV, and start using HDMI, and your BluRay movies will work again.

Huh,VGA? I haven't used that in 10 years. I have only top-of-the-line latest hardware, software, upgrades and updates ......and CyberLink has a nasty habit of turning OFF bluray movie titles with every update they send down....and then claim I need to buy their latest version. To____with them and BluRay.

42 posted on 03/31/2013 6:16:30 AM PDT by Scooter100 (A balanced budget means that banks lose $Billion$.)
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To: KEVLAR

I downloaded the latest version of VLC, but it spits BluRays out. Please, tell me what plug-ins and AACS decryption files you installed to enable BluRay playback of AACS-encoded movies?


43 posted on 03/31/2013 6:23:22 AM PDT by Scooter100 (A balanced budget means that banks lose $Billion$.)
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To: Venturer
I am still using my old tape player. In fact I got a new one the other day from Salvation Army store for $4.50 plays the old tapes just fine.

Congrats. I sold all my VHS/Beta tapes and playback machines in 1999, otherwise I would have sent them to you. My LaserDisc equipment and discs met with an untimely demise during a rather boisterous party 10 years ago...involving liquid refreshments and a high-rise balcony.

44 posted on 03/31/2013 6:32:22 AM PDT by Scooter100 (A balanced budget means Banksters lose $Billion$.)
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To: x

I’ve purchased several HDTV tuner cards and external boxes to put HDTV off-air/cable feeds into a window on my computer screen. Little success getting anything really satisfactory. Any experienced suggestions appreciated.


45 posted on 03/31/2013 6:35:31 AM PDT by Scooter100 (A balanced budget means Banksters lose $Billion$.)
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To: Scooter100

If watching TV is creating this much angst in your life my recommendation is a 12 gauge through the screen and go do something outside.


46 posted on 03/31/2013 6:35:33 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: O6ret
I was thinking the same thing.

BTW, I have a Sony Blu-Ray and it plays everything great, but I've heard the shelf-life for blu-ray's aren't much better than DVDs, so I've gone back to just buying DVDs. And I can't discern any better picture quality either.

47 posted on 03/31/2013 6:44:16 AM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: Fzob

I haven’t “watched TV” in 20 years. I sometimes watch “good” MOVIES on my computer, usually in a small window in the corner of my screen while doing other things. Your 12-gauge suggestion sounds like fun, by the way.


48 posted on 04/04/2013 2:14:00 AM PDT by Scooter100 (A balanced budget means Banksters lose $Billion$.)
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To: rabidralph

Bluray discs are more scratch proof than DVDs, they have a coating, the Bluray disc can be played many many more times than the DVD. Its the actual advancement of the Bluray format occasionally that forces the consumer to constantly upgrade the player, a DVD player is fixed and cannot get any better, the Bluray can advance past what it is right now.

So occasionally a film will come out with new extras or sound codes that an older BD player cannot work with thus why so many people bitch about Bluray, best to have a BD player that can get an auto update or a PlayStation with broadband connection.


49 posted on 04/04/2013 2:19:48 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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