Skip to comments.Obama to Top Brass: Will you fire on American Citizens?
Posted on 04/04/2013 6:03:27 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
The Obama administration is openly escalating its campaign against private gun ownership, and shaking up the top ranks of the military command structure -- but is it also preparing to make war on the American population? According to a person identified as a former senior military official, the answer to that shocking question is yes.
World-renowned educator and human rights activist Jim Garrow says that the source, man regarded as "one of America's foremost military heroes," told him that President Obama is using a new litmus test for "determining who will stay and who must go" among top-ranked military leaders. That test is whether they will fire on US citizens or not. Garrow says that his source made the disclosure in order to "sound the alarm" over the administration's plans.
While Garrow will not yet reveal the identity of the source, it's important to note that Garrow himself is a man of considerable accomplishment. He is the founder of the Bethune Institute, which has established hundreds of schools throughout China. Three years ago, he was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for his work though a group called Pink Pagoda, which combat "gendercide" in China -- that is, the practice of rescuing baby girls who had been abandoned or targeted for infanticide because of the government's one-child policy. He was personally involved in helping to save the lives of more than 50,000 Chinese girls. He joins Gary Franchi on WHDT World News to discuss this new "Litmus Test."
*No party or entity depicted in this broadcast advocates insurrection against the government of the United States of America.
The part where he discusses how China views Obama is most interesting to me. If the people in the know on the street in China call him "monkey man" it mirrors many of the names he has here. And certainly shows their contempt for him.
God Help the U.S.
Shrewd move by the Obamadork.
Since he is not really a citizen, he may consider himself immune from military fire when the upcoming CW-II comes.
He may be incorrect.
I still trust that most US soldiers would not act on orders to shoot US civilians. I have long feared that Obama is setting himself up to become dictator and just needs the right “crisis” as a pretext to stage a coup. The Sandy Hook shooting was Obama’s Reichstag fire and will be the beginning on the end for civil liberties in this country.
Impeachment File on B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro.
Impeachment File on B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro.
Get back to me when he does.
Why should He?
We've kicked him out of our schools, are in the process of legalizing gay marriage, and kicked Him out of our courthouses.
We've elected a closeted Muslim who gets his advice from racist haters, and despises his own flag.
We give credence to University professors who advocate for infanticide, listen to people who put trees above people, and idolize movie stars who openly hate us.
We listen to music that glorifies rape, murder, and theft, watch movies that glamorize lawlessness and nudity, and admire people like Hugh Hefner and Larry Flynt.
We encourage people to live off the state, tax the crap out of people who work for themselves, and in general discourage any kind of hard work.
We look the other way, or openly admire, "celebrities" who get caught cheating on their marriage, or in their profession by using drugs.
There is very little in this country that does not remind me of Sodom--and we are losing the righteous people at an alarming rate. We are on our way to destruction.
Did you watch the video?
Look for more of the top brass to turn against Obama as time goes on.
Would a nuclear attack by North Korea qualify as a “crisis”?
"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things."
"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
Alice in Wonderland.
I know you from FR well enough to conclude that neither of us did any of the things you listed. Although they are all valid reasons that God would desert the U.S.
There are rightous folks out there, but they are most likely keeping a low profile.
Yes. the “We” is America in general. Not any particular person.
Can you imagine any president of our dear country EVER ASKING ANYONE THIS QUESTION?
Are we citizens in deep, deep trouble, or what?
Alice in Wonderland?
Indeed the distortion of reality is that bad today.
The frightening thing is there are thing that are real that are still unimaginable to us.
And hopefully some Congressmen and Senators. Possibly some Supreme Court members too.
Have said from the beginning when the “right people” want him exposed, he is toast.
Yep Deep Kimchi.
Keep in mind that while some soldiers would hesitate when ordered to fire on Americans, the majority probably would not. It would not come down to a matter of conscience, but a matter of conditioning. You can bet that the troops would be thoroughly "briefed" beforehand and most would believe that they were doing their patriotic duty.
I have thought all along that 0bama is setting himself up to be dictator. 0bama's move to purge the Generals that would put The Constitution first is a step to ensure that he would not encounter any opposition when he makes his move, and I certainly don't expect congress to do anything. The courts, all the way up to the SCOTUS are in his pocket, so he is just a couple of moves away.
Look how hard it has been in Iraq and Afghanistan dealing with at most 25,000 insurgents. Russia threw up it’s hands and withdrew from Afghanistan.
I would hope that America could field quite a few more if it comes to it. I certainly wouldn’t want to continue to live in a country that has slipped into an authoritarian dictatorship, nor would many others. Once they step over that line, there’s nothing much left to lose.
Obama was elected TWICE. The danger of a democracy, or even a democratic republic, is that the low information voter will get used to voting himself some of your money. Look around at every other democracy, it has happened everywhere.
Am I surprised at such a revelation? Ive thought for some time that the willingness to fire upon American Civilians was a litmus test for advancement to 0-6 and above.
But as I contemplate the decreasing morale on our military around the world as the result of nearly insane Rules of Engagement on the enemy/insurgents who are not clearly identified by uniform from the general population and the resulting increase of casualties as the consequences. I have to wonder, if the order comes down to wage war on American Insurgents will the same rules apply or will they be relaxed to the point that even the slightest provocation or suspicion of belligerence will be cause for lethal force?
Your guess is as good as mine. But I think that the consequences and backlash to such actions will be like a terrible swift sword.
Sure. They're all just unthinking robots, programmed by Obama. When the order comes, it won't matter to most soldiers that they're going to fire on their neighbors and kin. Nope. Not even a blink.
Their oaths to the Constitution? Don't be silly. The Emperor hath commanded them to slay you, Yankee scum. Now you must die.
Yeah. Just like that.
“Fabian head fake...”
You are absolutely correct my friend.
Some places aren't suited to democracy because it really doesn't amount to much more than mob rule. 0bama and his regime figured this out and bought the mob with handouts of MY tax dollars and free 0bamaphones.
Most thankfully would turn against Obama, for this I am CONFIDENT.
OK, smarty. Do you recall Capt Ernest Medina and Lt William Calley of Vietnam infamy? I was in the military at the time and I vividly remember the “training” we received after the bad press generated by My Lai - follow orders first and question later. Now, firing on Americans is a different matter, but those students at Kent State might beg to differ.
I pray you are correct.
I have wondered what might spark an incident that could justify firing on Americans, and how is would be reported afterwards.
A student or a non-student shit stirrer at Kent State fired the first shot. It was intended to provoke a violent incident.
What should have been the rules of engagement for the National Guard? Wait until someone takes a bullet before firing?
I've never heard or read that, though I don't doubt it. But this makes my point: Even if the soldiers have no intention of firing on Americans, they are likely to be placed in a scenario where their options are very limited. And as you point out, the Rules of Engagement will be vague, but defined by the Generals who owe fealty to 0bama.
No no. Not a different matter at all, according to you and other quivering masses of jelly around here. According to you, all it takes to overcome a person's innate sense of loyalty to their kin and countrymen, is a bit of stern brain washing.
And before you even go there, I can predict how the rest of your thought process goes...
Obama gives the order, and American troops immediately seize every firearm in the country, killing or imprisoning anyone who dares to resist, then all the remaining conservatives, patriots, and normal Americans are rounded up and shipped in box cars to the FEMA re-education camps.
I've heard your bleak and demoralizing message a thousand times on this website. Doesn't matter that it's nothing more than a paranoid fantasy. No one stops you doomers from repeating it ad infinitum, and so you continue to smear that crap all over the forum.
Go ahead. Keep pimping for the Emperor. You do know you're doing his bidding, don't you?
No “shot” was fired by a student. Somebody reported hearing a shot/fireworks, and the order was given to fire. Those (four) students killed were not near the demonstration, but traversing the campus between classes. The point being, an order was given to fire upon U.S. citizens on U.S. soil. The order was obeyed. The right or wrong of it matters not. It happened.
Isn’t the problem inherent in the concept of “democratic”? As long as there was a concept of “constitutional republic” rather than “democratic republic” or “democracy” we had a chance. Most people think you are crazy if you tell them this country is NOT supposed to be a democracy but the constitution clearly guarantees to each state a “republican” form of government, the word democracy or democratic does not appear nor does “representative democracy” even though some supposedly educated people may think so.
Inherent in the word democracy is the idea that every citizen should vote, this is a fatal error, a constitutional republic allows for qualifications on voting and this country started on the road to destruction when we began to drop voter qualifications, now we don’t even require citizenship or the ability to fog a mirror in practice. When illegal aliens and corpses can vote their is little point in going to the polls.
As for those who claim that democracy and republic refer to the same form of government they are simply ignorant.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7M-7LkvcVw
Tell me where I’m wrong.
How long would that go on? Would US soldiers actually engage in a long guerrilla war against their own countrymen? Sure, people do things in anger, in panic, or if suddenly ordered to do so. But give them a few months, time to sit around, talk to each other and say, "That guy I shot ... he was just like my Dad. I mean: exactly like my Dad."
I can picture a small number of short tragic incidents.
There is no possibility that the US Army will engage in anything like a prolonged effort to supress the citizens in this country. They won't do it.
I doubt that Obama is all that worried about the lower ranks of the miltary being willing to defend or destroy their fellow Americans. I expect Obama to Bengazi our troups so that he will have no opposition with his Homeland Security Army. So easy to start a war and abandon the field to allow the enemy to mop up your opposition.
“Some places aren’t suited to democracy because it really doesn’t amount to much more than mob rule.”
Corrected version: NO place is suited to democracy because it really amounts to LEGALIZED mob rule.
The constitution guarantees a “republican” form of government to the states, no mention of democracy.
Any of the “top brass” can issue any order they want. That doesn’t mean that the troops out there or their immediate officers will follow any unconstitutional, unlawful or immoral command.
Any “top brass” who might say they will would probably find themselves looking over their shoulders in fear that they might be the “american” (traitor) that the troops fire on.
Thank you for your (lack of) support and faith in our service members. You obviously believe that the majority of them are mindless, ignorant, “conditioned” (brainwashed) and robotic; that they swear allegiance to the president and their senior leadership. They swear allegiance to the Constitution and to follow the LAWFUL orders of those appointed above them.
That is absolutely what happened and I’ve read about the details many times over the years. The guardsmen were barely trained (common at that time) and a few panicked when the shot was fired from the agitators. Google how many real students were shot at Kent State and how many in the crowd were not students, but outsiders.
PS your post sounds like defeatism. You are a child of the living God. You can do better than "nobody loves me, everybody hates me, i think i'll go eat worms"
I'm reminded of Stonewall Jackson's speech at the very beginning of the first American Civil War. Prior to Virginia voting to secede, President Lincoln ordered states to raise troops in case actual rebellion broke out.
Jackson looked out at his men, wearing gray and butternut uniforms and said, "President Lincoln ordered Virginia to raise up 2 regiments. Tell the President we have done so!!"
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