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Should McDonald’s Pay $15/hour?
PJ Tatler ^ | April 5, 2013 | Scott Ott

Posted on 04/08/2013 1:52:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As low-wage food service workers demand a doubling of their pay, an uncurious journalist never wonders how people who earn $7.25 per hour were able to organize a “nationwide” strike replete with crisply-printed protest signs. For that matter, the dullard scribe doesn’t indicate whether “nationwide” connotes thousands of people in hundreds of locations or a dozen folks on two street corners.

Bad journalism is defined most often by what it lacks, rather than what it states. Incompetence, or conscious manipulation, are found in the question unasked, the fact unmentioned, the absence of context. The passive reader will never notice.

Reporting work of this caliber deserves less than $7.25 per hour, but it does provide an opportunity to explain, once again, how the world works.

Here are a few basic facts of life that each child should take to heart…and by “child” I mean journalist.

1) Your pay is not based on how much money you need to enjoy the lifestyle you desire.
2) Your pay is determined by the skill needed to do the work, and the difficulty of replacing you.
3) If your employer were to jack up your pay beyond those parameters she would have to jack up her prices, which would chase away customers, thereby reducing her need for you. (She alternately could reduce her profits, but that would scare off investors who provide the juice for growth. Stagnation is death.)
4) If you ever get paid what you’re worth, you will soon be fired....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: economy; fastfood; mcdonalds; minimumwage
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To: Usagi_yo
perhaps we wouldn’t be doing so bad if Fast Food Menu prices Doubled or Tripled.

If this isn't sarcasm, then it ranks in the top 10% of stupid statements posted on FR, and that is a really competitive group.

21 posted on 04/08/2013 4:11:00 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Should McDonald’s Pay $15/hour?

Yes, because comrades, we all know that the proletariat will support the noble cause when Big Macs sell for $8 dollars.

22 posted on 04/08/2013 4:11:33 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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You can’t even live on 15 an hour now days, I don’t know what the solution is, but people need a reasonable wage.


23 posted on 04/08/2013 4:16:54 AM PDT by Sophia777
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Art Laffer said any min. wage legislation should be called ‘The Minority Youth Unemployment Act’, because that’s all you’ll ever get by pricing their services out of the market


24 posted on 04/08/2013 4:25:13 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Sophia777

A “reasonable wage” across the board will only increase inflation. The answer is to reduce the cost of living by reducing taxes and regulations.


25 posted on 04/08/2013 4:27:51 AM PDT by youngidiot (God help us.)
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To: Sophia777

Two comments:

I seldom eat at a McDonald’s. I am NOT going to pay $10.00 - $15.00 for two hamburgers, fries and a small coke when I could get a HEALTHY meal for less at some other place.

We raised two son’s. When it came time for them to get a job (any job) we told them, “When you take a job for what the employer offers you, you work just as hard at that job as if he paid you double for what you are getting.
You committed to the job, do it! If you DON’T like the job, find another that pays you more. End of story!”


26 posted on 04/08/2013 4:31:52 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Sophia777; All

There is no right to a ‘reasonable’ wage.


27 posted on 04/08/2013 4:34:48 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Third Parties are for losers.)
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To: Usagi_yo
The fast food industry is responsible for more deaths and cost of healthcare than gun violence is. Is it because that it’s cheaper to eat poorly than it is to eat healthy?

So don't eat it. I see you're a supporter of Nanny Bloomberg.

28 posted on 04/08/2013 4:35:59 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Union mentality is a disease.

Union parasites go on strike because the cost of living has risen and they want more money to enjoy the same lifestyle they had before the increase in inflation.

They strike and always get a rise in pay. The next thing you know the prices of everything around them suddenly goes up and then the cycle starts again. They go on strike and get a pay raise and then the cost of living suddenly goes up again.

This labor disease is prevalent on the west coast and the north-east.

I live in Texas (a state hostile to unions) and my 2,600 square foot home cost me $175,000 when I bought it. The same house would cost somewhere around $300,000 to 400,000 in heavily unionized areas of the country.

Gee, I wonder why? Could it be because of the union mentality? You bet!


29 posted on 04/08/2013 4:36:34 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Crisply printed signs” ?
Not paid for @ $7.50 an hour.
Unions have a hand in this. They are loosing workers and need to organize . Wait until these minions are forced to pay unions and taxes and all of that other government *&^% they end up right back where they started.


30 posted on 04/08/2013 4:43:09 AM PDT by lucky american (The Democrats will follow the big "D"even if it means going over a cliff.)
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To: Sophia777
You can’t even live on 15 an hour now days, I don’t know what the solution is, but people need a reasonable wage.

Who gets to decide what is a reasonable wage?

31 posted on 04/08/2013 4:54:23 AM PDT by dearolddad (/i>)
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To: Sophia777

You do realize that what you are proposing is socialism?

You think you should be paid based on what it takes to live? What new form of economic system are you proposing when paying you what it takes to live causes the cost of what you produce or deliver to become more than what people think it’s worth, and what should you do for work when the owner closes shop permanently?

They don’t teach economics in college anymore do they? I’ve see some of the strangest economic contortions right here on a conservative board and conservatives are way more astute economically than the no nothing liberals.

It seems the media has done its job spreading lies because so many people have fallen for the need for a “living” wage.


32 posted on 04/08/2013 5:10:05 AM PDT by Waryone (Trust the Lord not your own understanding. Acknowledge Him. He will direct your path.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I’m not sure, but when I worked for McDonald’s in 1970, my wage was about $1.60/hr. I needed a job after graduation from college and taking a job with an airlines. I was happy to have it. I did get 5 cents an hour more than others because I had a Master’s Degree, and the manager told me I also did not need to clean the gum off the sidewalk!
33 posted on 04/08/2013 5:10:57 AM PDT by fatfertile
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To: Waryone
It seems the media has done its job spreading lies because so many people have fallen for the need for a “living” wage.

Well what about you??? Would you change your tune if your employer and all employers decided they would pay you 7 bucks an hour???

34 posted on 04/08/2013 5:30:27 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, Mickey D employees, but slinging hamburgers was never meant to be a career. You want more money, get some damn skills!


35 posted on 04/08/2013 5:33:54 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: Sophia777
You can’t even live on 15 an hour now days, I don’t know what the solution is, but people need a reasonable wage.

Most employers pay far more than minimum wage, why is that?

The inverse is true of those making minimum wage. I've hired many of them, and I'll tell you that they aren't worth minimum wage.

Not every job is worth a wage that you can support a family on. If you deam that every job must be, then all you will achieve is the elimination of those jobs.

If I had to house and feed children and couldn't do it on $15/hr, I'll tell you what I would be doing:
1. Working more than 40/hr a week.
2. Making myself the best worker my employer ever had, so that I could sucessfully ask for a raise.
3. Looking for a better paying job, while continuing to work the one I'm in.
4. Cutting expenses to the bone.

Entry level jobs are not intended to be careers, nor are they suitable career choices for those who are seeking greater compensation.

36 posted on 04/08/2013 5:37:02 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, at least there should not be an across the board pay scale mandated by Washington. It should be what the market can hold in an area where each McDonald’s is located, maybe with a minimum wage at $7.

How much would the $1 burgers cost then? $5? Convenience be hanged, if they do this, McD’s is off my menu forever.


37 posted on 04/08/2013 5:48:42 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Iscool

Why would I want to trade one arm of socialism for another? If you want to make more, equip yourself to earn more. That costs money, time and effort. If you are unwilling to do that, thank the Lord and enjoy what you already have.


38 posted on 04/08/2013 5:48:45 AM PDT by Waryone (Trust the Lord not your own understanding. Acknowledge Him. He will direct your path.)
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To: Waryone

That costs money, time and effort.


It’s called discipline and sacrifice.

It’s work before play and not play before work.

It’s called an obscure name: WORK ETHIC. A word almost completely unknown by those younger than 50 years old.


39 posted on 04/08/2013 6:01:58 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Sophia777

I’ll make a deal with you.

You get to choose the wage I pay you, I get to choose how you spend the wages you earn.


40 posted on 04/08/2013 6:38:18 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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