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To wit: Starfleet used Osama/Khan which caused him to attack the WTC/Archive for revenge which, in turn, was going to be used to lie Starfleet into a war on Iraq/Klingon.

And just so they can show how "clever" they were, they even put a dedication to the post-9/11 veterans. (To make sure you get the point).

The first half of the movie is fairly decent but the last half goes off the rails into trutherism and the plot is just as nonsensical. That's the first time I've ever walked out of a Star Trek movie thoroughly disgusted (and I saw Nemesis...)

1 posted on 05/16/2013 7:14:53 AM PDT by Skywise
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Sci-Fi ping.


2 posted on 05/16/2013 7:20:05 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Skywise

The libtards who believe the 9/11 Troofer mess also believe that government is always good and should grow exponentially. I wonder what color the sky is in their world.


3 posted on 05/16/2013 7:20:09 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Skywise

I heard that Gene Roddenberry was turning over in his grave.


4 posted on 05/16/2013 7:20:37 AM PDT by rocksblues (The Obama administration the most unlawful, corrupt administration in US history.)
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To: Skywise

Sounds like a pretty standard plot theme going back some 50 years.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.


5 posted on 05/16/2013 7:20:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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NO!!!! I was looking forward to this movie. I’m beyond disappointed.


7 posted on 05/16/2013 7:21:32 AM PDT by Sweet Hour of Prayer
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Sounds like Undiscovered Country


9 posted on 05/16/2013 7:25:04 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (What has the GOP done today to gain your support in 2014?)
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I didn’t like the last Star Trek Babies movie.
And I thought Nemesis was passable.

I had no intention of paying to see this one.


10 posted on 05/16/2013 7:29:38 AM PDT by kidd
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9/11 Truthers: Have any of them ever explained how George Bush Jr. could simultaneously be an evil genius who would make Machiavelli blush with envy, and a simpering West Texas moron? I cannot conceive of the latter being allowed by the US Air Force to fly supersonic jet interceptors or be capable of earning a Harvard MBA. And I never observed the kind of raw talent in him required for the former. I thought only Muslims were able to hold such contradictory and ravingly stupid ideas in their heads at the same time. But I guess I was wrong.


17 posted on 05/16/2013 7:52:15 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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Maybe the truthers can explain to me how a building can remain standing after it’s been cut in half by a jetliner. I think that is the real question here, not that the towers fell but how they stood for so long after being chopped in half.


19 posted on 05/16/2013 7:56:46 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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Well conspiracy dribble does make an entertaining FICTIONAL movie,..


23 posted on 05/16/2013 8:00:17 AM PDT by GraceG
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Aw crap...

I really liked the first one. I NEVER see movies multiple times in the theater yet I paid three times to see the first one. We have the movie poster on the wall of our game room. We bought a BlueRay player to play the disk in BlueRay. To say I had high hopes for the second installment would be an understatement.

What is sad is that when word of this gets out, people like me will be less inclined to shell out their hard earned bucks to see it in theaters. They will blame it on the franchise and any hope of a new ST television series will be dead.

Idiots. They just couldn’t help themselves.


24 posted on 05/16/2013 8:06:33 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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I’m shocked. Just shocked. Yet another reason why this is Faux Trek.


26 posted on 05/16/2013 8:21:47 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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Thanks for the update Skywise, too bad they don't do a Movie on a “Tomorrow is Yesterday”, “Assignment: Earth” or “The City on the Edge of Forever” theme.
30 posted on 05/16/2013 8:48:46 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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This series was going to go down fast when they keep pushing nuSpock actor’s fetish behavior on the public. He has no credibility as a spock.

The could have gone to any convention to obtain the same or better acting.

Redoing wrath of kahn as an msnbc children’s special is pathetic.

Abrams does not write, he just re-edits old episodes into new sequences.

This is probably why they show the blond in undergarments in the commercials. it is that bad they have to resort to “boobies” to sell the boobs.


38 posted on 05/16/2013 9:54:03 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Sounds like “wait until dvd rental” rather than go to theater.


41 posted on 05/16/2013 10:39:04 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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ping


49 posted on 05/16/2013 7:17:12 PM PDT by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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I’ll watch it on Solar Movie and not fret about having spent dough to see it.


57 posted on 05/17/2013 9:53:43 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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I just watched it. Didn’t think of 9/11 one time either.

Sometimes a movie is just a movie.

Not bad for a star trek flick.


60 posted on 05/17/2013 7:28:51 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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I saw “Star Trek: Into Darkness” yesterday, and after thinking about it for two days I realized that I hate what JJ Abrams is doing to the Star Trek universe.

They made one of the great villians of Star Trek and made him into a random bad guy. He is not significantly any different from the villian in Iron Man 3.

McCoy is a parody of McCoy, not a real character.

They never did explain why the ship was where it was at the start, except for Scotty to correctly point out that it was a dumb place for a starship.

The villians suddenly have technology that Picard and his crew regarded as new and inherently very risky over a century later in the original universe.

This version of Kirk didn’t rise through the ranks and learn how to lead. In the original universe, Lt. Commander Kirk was a by the books sort of leader until an event forced him to reassess strict adherence to policy. A Kirk that never experienced any of that to explain why he failed to follow policy and regulation from day one.

Chekov is another throw away parody of a character. The original Chekov was a competent young officer who could be understood despite an accent. You could replace this Chekov with Elmer Fudd and you would not notice any difference.

The entire plot is a truthers wet dream. An Earth that had witnessed Vulcan attacked would have security concerns, so would the Andorians and a dozen other species. The Admiral is displayed as both a warmonger and the leader of the Federation that doesn’t seem to have a President or general Assembly anymore.


61 posted on 05/17/2013 7:47:04 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in on your feet than it is to live as on your knees.)
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I saw the movie this morning. NEVER even ONCE did I think anything about trutherism. I just enjoyed the movie. Guess I don’t really watch movies with a political eye.


62 posted on 05/17/2013 7:50:53 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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