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Identical twin studies prove homosexuality is not genetic
Holland Davis ^ | May-13-2013 | Mark Ellis

Posted on 06/01/2013 5:59:38 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Jim Noble
cause if it's genetic, it can be found in utero and aborted...
61 posted on 06/01/2013 7:41:59 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

>>>I am reminded of a medical article I read many years ago.

A young man from way back in the hills was drafted for WWII.

His mother died when he was born and he had no women in his life at all. He grew up around men, never seeing a woman.

When drafted they noticed something strange about him so they gave him some tests.

1. They showed him pictures of naked women. No reaction.

2. They showed him pictures of naked men. No reaction.

They did not know what to think of it when another doctor, made aware of the boy’s upbringing, tried something different.

3. They showed him pictures of a cow. WOW! Instant reaction.<<<

That is how it really is. Homosexualism it neither about the genes nor a way they are born.

It is a behavioral disorder sorta like an alcoholism and addiction to gambling.

Some of them are getting there on their own, others (most of them) are taught this way since the early age by adult perverts. MSM and pop culture does a lot to aid their recruitment as far as being a homosexual is kinda ‘cool’ today.


62 posted on 06/01/2013 7:52:08 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Ramius

Exactly.
I’ve always struggled buying the statement that it was genetic. It seems to be in direct contradiction with Darwinian law. Not being able to pass your genetic material over time is a genetic death sentence; no matter how strong, intelligent, or fast you are. Even if it was genetic, one would think that the carriers of it would have died out over time, because it is so useless to the evolution of the species. Just like tails are to us now.
That is of course, if the theory of evolution is true. I’m just pointing out the contradiction in logic.


63 posted on 06/01/2013 7:54:45 PM PDT by NullPointerException
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To: Ramius

I think that you are on to something.


64 posted on 06/01/2013 7:55:31 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Placemark


65 posted on 06/01/2013 8:02:51 PM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: Coleus

It’s something you talk yourself into over the years.


66 posted on 06/01/2013 8:07:30 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Prayers for your kids to have childhood unsullied by societal perversion.


67 posted on 06/01/2013 8:09:46 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Coleus

Interesting studies.


68 posted on 06/01/2013 8:12:49 PM PDT by Techster
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To: driftdiver
Throw in some emotional trauma, lack of morals, drugs and possibly a weak personality and you’d be surprised what can happen.

Throw in sexual abuse during childhood or adolescents. That is the main reason the Pink Swastikas are going after our children.
69 posted on 06/01/2013 8:16:10 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Bobalu
The clitoris is the same structure as the penis.

This is actually NOT true. The clitoris does have erectile tissue similar to that found in the penis, but it does not have the same function in the body as the penis. The penis is not only the sexual organ of the male, but it is also the location of the urethra which carries urine to the outside of the body. The clitoris is located in the vulva close to the urethra, but the two do not have the same structural relationship as the penis and the urethra.

On the specific subject of this thread, I have never believed that there was a gene for homosexuality. Up until the advent of modern fertility techniques, there was no way a truly gay man could produce offspring with a true lesbian woman. If there ever was such a gene, it could not be passed on to the next generation and would therefore die out.

I have to agree with those on this thread that think that liberals will not accept the results of this excellent study any more than they accept that AGW does not exist. If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny that many liberals label conservatives as being uneducated or unscientific when they are the ones who blindly accept whatever the liberal mantra of the day happens to be.

70 posted on 06/01/2013 8:20:32 PM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: NullPointerException
It seems to be in direct contradiction with Darwinian law.

I agree, but I did get a chuckle out of that. Imagine pointing that out to the liberal Animist. Homosexuality is not genetically possible without violating the primary law of liberalism.

This would be the equivalent of the original Star Trek Nomad meltdown in the The Chaneling.
71 posted on 06/01/2013 8:32:53 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Coleus

The science on homosexuals will not be conclusive for a long time. It will be likely decades before any evidence comes up that allows us to determine how many gays were homosexual by birth, how many actively chose it, how many were brought into it by homosexuals in their lives and how many were because of early childhood experiences, and how many are homosexual because of some combination of the above.

Of course, one should be able to effectively argue against messing with the millenia old definition of marriage and a special system of rights for homosexuals without trying to argue that being gay is curable for all, or even a vast majority, of homosexuals. For some of the homosexuals, yes they can get leave it. But we shouldn’t have to be arguing that *all* of them can leave it in order to argue effectively against the homosexual agenda. Start with the acknowledgement that there are many kinds of disorders and disabilities and behavior mannerisms people are often born with but that this still does not justify giving them special rights and that even then it shouldn’t justify giving free passes for obscene, destructive behavior. That seems to be the best starting points for arguments against got’v redefinition of marriage and other key issues.


72 posted on 06/01/2013 8:35:03 PM PDT by technobash
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To: Windflier

It is all worldview-—cultural/pagan/occult/atheist. Samurai were 100% homosexual-—where little boys are trained in sodomy and warfare-—same with the Ancient Greeks/Romans/Asians. Behaviors are learned. Abnormal behaviors-—like homosexuality has to be caused by perverting a little kids worldview-—warping the way they see men and women. It is always abuse—mostly physical but always emotional, too.

Segregated societies like in Afghanistan condition “hate” for the “other”and the men target young boys for recreation. That is because they want to be “manly”—dominant. All homosexual cultures target boys.

Fr. Oko’s report on “Homoheresy” talks about this necessary aspect of homosexuality-—it is an immaturity—a fixation in the Latency period....where the mature act of appreciation of the opposite sex can not occur. They have no interest in spending time with females——just like the Ancient Greeks-—it was only for the purpose of breeding that they had anything to do with women.

It is easy to warp and pervert children-—they are extremely vulnerable. Our schools are warping the moral foundation of children, making them easy victims for homosexuals and promiscuity. Schools are normalizing homosexuality like it is in all pagan/occult/atheist societies. Boys are always the target. http://www.examiner.com/article/afghan-pedophilia-a-way-of-life-say-u-s-soldiers-and-journalists


73 posted on 06/01/2013 8:38:23 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Coleus

Considering how likely it is that identical twins have similar experiences (being in the same families), these numbers are striking and suggest that such life decisions happen later in development than one might suspect.


74 posted on 06/01/2013 8:40:02 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: umgud

“What difference, at this point, does it make!”

Because the basis of laws prohibiting conversion therapy is that it cannot work, since they’re all born that way.


75 posted on 06/01/2013 8:48:29 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I got a psychology degree in ‘71 before the capitulation to the “born that way” crowd ( by the way they were soooooo gay) and these studies just confirm what the consensus was back then.
76 posted on 06/01/2013 8:50:23 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: Coleus

Bump....


77 posted on 06/01/2013 8:52:21 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Coleus

It might however be epigenetic, in which responses to environmental inputs can be heritable by messenger RNA. So I wouldn’t be ready to deem the hypothesis completely disproven just yet.


78 posted on 06/01/2013 8:52:28 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: fella

I remember the accounts of the DSM-3 meetings in 1973, where the gay militant activists harassed and threatened and shrieked at the shrinks there to reclassify homosexuality as not a mental disorder.


79 posted on 06/01/2013 8:55:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: BobL

I shoulda uswed the s/tag. I was actually paraphrasing Hillary. But having said that, IMO homesexuality is a sexual perversion regardless nature/nurture.


80 posted on 06/01/2013 9:03:16 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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