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Report: McCain Concedes Gang of Eight Losing Immigration Debate (they're planning a recess blitz!)
Breitbart.com ^ | 7/17/13 | Tony Lee

Posted on 07/18/2013 5:20:09 AM PDT by cotton1706

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) reportedly conceded that opponents of the Senate's immigration bill are winning the messaging battle during a meeting with Gang of Eight members and big business interests on how to target and pressure House Republicans on comprehensive immigration reform. At the meeting, McCain, along with Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Jeff Flake (R-AZ), and Chuck Schumer (R-NY), reportedly plotted out a strategy to target at least 100 House Republicans and pressure House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) to bring a bill to the floor even if it does not have the support of a majority of House Republicans. Boehner has indicated he would not violate the so-called "Hastert Rule" to do just that.

According to Politico, "McCain suggested to the group that they’re losing the messaging battle to immigration opponents."

As a result, McCain "urged the group to push for the Senate bill by discussing its component parts — but not mentioning the overall bill." Graham (R-SC) told the meeting that there are "between 30 and 40 Republicans who are staunchly opposed to the Senate bill — but warned that number cannot grow."

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), one of the most seminal Gang of Eight members, who was often the face of the Senate's immigration bill, reportedly did not even attend the meeting. Rubio has not said a word about immigration since it passed the Senate more than three weeks ago.

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Boehner is letting the democrats go after the republicans so he can then have "a majority of the majority" be for immigration reform. It's insidious chess-playing.
1 posted on 07/18/2013 5:20:09 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706
Chuck Schumer (R-NY)
2 posted on 07/18/2013 5:22:53 AM PDT by Darth Reardon (Is it any wonder I'm not the president?)
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To: Darth Reardon

Chuck Schumer(T-NY).


3 posted on 07/18/2013 5:24:51 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: cotton1706
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), one of the most seminal Gang of Eight members, who was often the face of the Senate's immigration bill, reportedly did not even attend the meeting. Rubio has not said a word about immigration since it passed the Senate more than three weeks ago.

He hasn't said a word. BUT he has surely heard a lot of words since his betrayal support of this latest episode of GOP STUPIDITY.

4 posted on 07/18/2013 5:28:35 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: cotton1706

The Gang of 8 should be removed from the Senate and exiled to live in Mexico with their friends there.

They are certainly no friends to our country.


5 posted on 07/18/2013 5:30:01 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: cotton1706

>> “McCain suggested to the group that they’re losing the messaging battle to immigration opponents.”<<

They are NOT losing the message battle. Their message is perfectly clear: AMNESTY.

What they are hearing is people REJECTING their message!


6 posted on 07/18/2013 5:31:15 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: cotton1706

Just keep asking everyone you know “Why are we importing cheap workers when there are so many Americans unemployed”


7 posted on 07/18/2013 5:34:54 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999

25 million Americans are without a job.


8 posted on 07/18/2013 5:43:59 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: cotton1706

They should be losing it’s a horrible bill and McCain is an idiot.

Nation changing legislation shouldn’t be worked up by 8 liberals in secret.


9 posted on 07/18/2013 5:44:18 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I’m beginning to think these guys are on the payroll of the drug cartels.


10 posted on 07/18/2013 5:46:35 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: cotton1706

Every GOP House member should be barraged with voters complaining about even bringing up a bill that can then be “conferenced” into submission by Up-Chuck Schumer and Dingy Harry. Pass nothing.


11 posted on 07/18/2013 5:48:05 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: cotton1706

Marcoooooooooooooo

Marcooooooooooooooooooooooo

Come out, come out from wherever you are.

Marcoooooooooooooo

[Notice how Marco is MIA? Poor guy has a bad case of falling-poll-numbers, so he had gone into hiding.]


12 posted on 07/18/2013 5:49:05 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: cotton1706

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)

Sen. John McCain (Retard-AZ)


13 posted on 07/18/2013 5:56:52 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by Obama")
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To: TomGuy

Should we teach the kids at the pool to play Marco Rino? It is an easy replacement for Marco Polo.


14 posted on 07/18/2013 5:59:26 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Darth Reardon

When did Chuckie switch parties??

I missed that.


15 posted on 07/18/2013 6:05:15 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: N. Theknow

Senore’ Rubio can kiss goodbye ANY chance he ever had at higher office


16 posted on 07/18/2013 6:18:06 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: N. Theknow

Senore’ Rubio can kiss goodbye ANY chance he ever had at higher office


17 posted on 07/18/2013 6:28:20 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: Joe Boucher

“Senore’ Rubio can kiss goodbye ANY chance he ever had at higher office”

I disagree. It appears as though this is the turd the GOPe are planning to choose for us if we don’t get the Freedom Party rolling very soon.


18 posted on 07/18/2013 6:34:31 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: cotton1706

Hooray! Glad to hear. Their ‘recess blitz’ is going to work the other way. The people are going to blitz the Gang of Eight and the Schumer Republicans.


19 posted on 07/18/2013 6:37:01 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: cotton1706

The truth will defeat these bastards in the long run and mccain... you are a rat bastard... graham too!


20 posted on 07/18/2013 6:38:05 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Joe Boucher
Senore’ Rubio can kiss goodbye ANY chance he ever had at higher office

Rubio has fallen from " rising star" to "turd in the punchbowl" in about 5 months. Gotta be some kind of record going from the darling of the Republican response to the SOTU to a pathetic pariah afraid to show his face in public or answer his phone.

21 posted on 07/18/2013 6:40:08 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

You didn’t get the message? It’s not the “freedom” or “tea party”. The new party name is “Crazy AZZ Cracka” party....


22 posted on 07/18/2013 6:42:10 AM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: cotton1706

“McCain suggested to the group that they’re losing the messaging battle to immigration opponents.”

Hey, McCain - how ‘bout y’all just TAKE THE HINT, you horse’s ass?


23 posted on 07/18/2013 6:49:03 AM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: N. Theknow

Not really. Look at the length of time those in the 2012 GOP primaries rose and fell. Some only took a few weeks. IIRC, there were about 6 different 'front runners' between February and April -- and we still ended up with Romney.
24 posted on 07/18/2013 6:54:28 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: cotton1706

I see the man in the back
Who’s cojones seem to lack
Only wanting this deal to get done.

And the girl in the corner
She’s a lib from California
She think’s SHE’s the compassionate one

OHHHH....YEEEEEAHHHH

And the bill was frightening
So their sphincters were tightening
As their voters were seething
So the pundits started grieving

YEAH...YEAH....YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH

And McCain in the back
Said “everyone attack”
Gonna hit ‘em with a Recess Blitz

Guess it’s time to get our war on
Cause our voters are all morons
Gonna hit ‘em with the Recess Blitz

Recess Blitz.....
Recess Blitz....


25 posted on 07/18/2013 7:01:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Carthego delenda est

If the very stupid republican party chooses Rubio, many will refuse to vote for the schmuck very similar to Romney.
And the vast majority of latins will vote Dem anyway.


26 posted on 07/18/2013 7:32:55 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: N. Theknow

I have loads of Latin friends being from Calif and Florida the majority of my life,
They came here legally and are offended that these leaches are trying to “but” in line.


27 posted on 07/18/2013 7:35:00 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: cotton1706
There must be no immigration plan from the House.

If the House submits a plan it will be approved, then gutted and replaced and done.

28 posted on 07/18/2013 7:47:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: cotton1706; DoughtyOne; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy
As a result, McCain "urged the group to push for the Senate bill by discussing its component parts — but not mentioning the overall bill."

How can that be? McC said he was totally against pork.

29 posted on 07/18/2013 9:27:39 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: cotton1706

Bring it on Juan, bring it on!


30 posted on 07/18/2013 9:58:51 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; cotton1706; DoughtyOne; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; Impy; ..

McCain in 2010......slightly to the right of Attila the Hun

McCain in 2013......slightly to the left of Karl Marx

Anyone surprised?


31 posted on 07/18/2013 10:52:27 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”As a result, McCain “urged the group to push for the Senate bill by discussing its component parts — but not mentioning the overall bill.”
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How can that be? McC said he was totally against pork”

I can beat that, I saw a quote of McCain from a telephone call-in show in the 2010 primary rally were he promises deceptively that he is against comprehensive immigration , posted on a Dem site.

This is a Dem website but I believe it

CALLER: I would like to ask Sen. McCain if he will make a promise on the air now that if we reelect him, he will not reach across the aisle, especially with Lindsey Graham, for comprehensive immigration reform. Will you not do that for the time you’re in office.
MCCAIN: Yes ma’am. … I am promising that I will try to address the issue of immigration in a way that is best for the United States of America.

McCain Promises He Won’t Work With Democrats On Immigration If He Is Re-Elected(Aug 12, 2010 )

32 posted on 07/18/2013 11:04:45 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Carthego delenda est; Joe Boucher
It appears as though this is the turd the GOPe are planning to choose for us if we don’t get the Freedom Party rolling very soon.

Yep. Who the hell cares about Rubio at this point? He's old news and already toast. At least he's had the decency to go away.

No, this article is all about the rest of the scum, the REAL scum. Rubio was just the chump they put out front. McCain, Graham, Ryan, Cantor, Flake, and another big handful of traitorous Republican scum are the people who need to get nervous, who need to get primaried.

33 posted on 07/18/2013 11:13:30 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker
Here's one:
McCain : “After the border is secure, then we need to look at a temporary legal guest worker program and a path to citizenship and all that. But first, the border has to be secured,” he said.

Rival says he's forced John McCain to drop amnesty for illegal immigrants (April 28th, 2010 )

Apparently McCain thinks the border is ALREADY secure.

34 posted on 07/18/2013 11:20:00 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; cotton1706; DoughtyOne; sickoflibs; Gilbo_3; Impy

It’s like watching a lopsided tennis match...

He goes left...

He goes slightly less left...

He goes left...

He runs to center left...

He goes left...

He trips at the net and blames Conservatives...

He goes left again...


35 posted on 07/18/2013 11:23:20 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs
What planet do politifact writers live on?

In fact, McCain started favoring border security over a pathway to citizenship years ago, long before Hayworth was a contender. As a result, we find Hayworth's claim to be Pants on Fire.

36 posted on 07/18/2013 11:26:56 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”It’s like watching a lopsided tennis match...
He goes left...
He goes slightly less left...
He goes left...
He runs to center left...
He goes left...
He trips at the net and blames Conservatives...
He goes left again...”

Does the playing field go on left forever?

37 posted on 07/18/2013 11:35:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE What planet do politifact writers live on?
....
In fact, McCain started favoring border security over a pathway to citizenship years ago, long before Hayworth was a contender. As a result, we find Hayworth’s claim to be Pants on Fire.

May be true, remember he had to win the 2008 primary before the 2010 primary.

38 posted on 07/18/2013 11:37:48 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Clearly, for Juan,it does...


39 posted on 07/18/2013 11:53:54 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne
May be true, remember he had to win the 2008 primary before the 2010 primary.

Do you mean that he always claimed to be for border security? I am not saying that Hayworth changed McCain that much, but the "politifact" statement McCain started favoring border security over a pathway to citizenship is a monstrous lie.

There is no one, including Dems, weaker on border security than McCain, and that goes back past 2008. In fact he is more of a threat to border security than Dems.

40 posted on 07/18/2013 11:55:17 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
Liz Cheney is wisely+suspiciously staying mum on amnesty reform, but here's one that suggests what her secret position on it is.

Dick Cheney on amnesty is for citizenship and on Rubio who he praises April 2013.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney talks to Charlie Rose about immigration problems (2013)

Neocons of a feather.

41 posted on 07/18/2013 11:57:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Worth looking at the whole page on this.


42 posted on 07/18/2013 12:13:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”;Do you mean that he always claimed to be for border security?”

Well of course, I was referencing his two primaries
Established Formula : ‘party primary’=’claimed’,

McCain=’build the dang fence’

43 posted on 07/18/2013 12:14:49 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I was hoping to find more, did he debate Hayworth?


44 posted on 07/18/2013 12:16:24 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

FYI, in 2010, McCain became a “border hawk” regarding illegals here in Arizona. He sounded more like Tom Tancredo, than anyone else. We all knew he was lying his arse off, but he spent 21 million spreading this lie.


45 posted on 07/18/2013 12:19:25 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

” I was hoping to find more, did he debate Hayworth?”

No, and why should he? Every time Hayworth would catch up with McCain, McCain ran like a thief in the night. Why debate a man, when you have 21 million, and Hayworth had 1.8 million?


46 posted on 07/18/2013 12:22:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: sickoflibs

” McCain=’build the dang fence’ “

Mccain ran all over AZ with this line.


47 posted on 07/18/2013 12:25:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker
Well of course, I was referencing his two primaries Established Formula : ‘party primary’=’claimed’,

My point was completely different: that politi"fact" was lying when it said McCain started favoring border security over a pathway to citizenship

"McCain started favoring talking about border security over while still insisting on a pathway to citizenship" is more like it.

To tell the truth, if McCain starts mentioning "border security" more frequently, it means nothing to me. It's just a means to an end for him.

48 posted on 07/18/2013 12:35:23 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Exactly.


49 posted on 07/18/2013 12:36:32 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”To tell the truth, if McCain starts mentioning “border security” more frequently, it means nothing to me. It's just a means to an end for him.”

SJB + I don't buy anything Mccain says. We just assume believe Obama as believe him, especially if what he says sounds like its to appeal,

The border talk is BS anyway. The border will never be secure. So McCain said in that quote 'no amnesty talk UNTIL border is secure' , to make primary fools think he means no amnesty ...ever.

Now he votes for amnesty now.

50 posted on 07/18/2013 1:48:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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