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Politics of fat: Watertown soda distributor questions first lady’s visit
Wisconsin Reporter ^ | September 11, 2013 | M.D. Kittle

Posted on 09/11/2013 8:08:38 AM PDT by moonshinner_09

MADISON – When you’ve been in business 75 years, you learn to adapt.

So goes the story of the Watertown-based 7-up Bottling Co., a family-owned distributor of carbonated beverages serving a thirsty four-county market in southern Wisconsin.

But these days, as sugary drinks get caught in the fire of the War on Obesity, soda distributors like 7-Up Bottling must feel like it’s got a big red target on its back.

“We are definitely not the industry that is causing obesity but yet we’ve got a product that gets blamed for obesity,” Tim Schultz, sales manager for 7-Up Bottling Co. told Wisconsin Reporter. “We definitely don’t want politics dictating to consumers what they can eat or drink.”

But politics is precisely what it feels like to Schultz and others who can’t help but scratch their heads a bit as to why first lady Michelle Obama is dropping by Watertown on Thursday afternoon to preach the power of water

(Excerpt) Read more at watchdog.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 7up; cocacola; letsmooooove; letsmove; michelleobama; mooooooochelle; newsactivism; obesity; pepsicola
There you have it Michelle Obama ,wants everybody to drink water.How did we lived as long as we have without the great wisdom of Michelle Obama and the power of water ? I hope it's ok to drink this Dr Pepper or will Michelle Obama ,send the sugar police to confiscate it and preach to me about the power of water..Amen.
1 posted on 09/11/2013 8:08:38 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

The soda companies are probably responsible for more obesity in this country than any other companies. I quit soda about 6 months ago and that alone reduced most of my fat.

That said, it is not the business of government if we want to kill ourselves.


2 posted on 09/11/2013 8:13:38 AM PDT by sakic
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To: moonshinner_09

This came from the big assed mama?

How ironic.......


3 posted on 09/11/2013 8:15:41 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: sakic

I’ve cut way back to almost none and feel better. Maybe some fat has receded. It has been a couple of weeks.


4 posted on 09/11/2013 8:21:04 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: moonshinner_09
There you have it Michelle Obama ,wants everybody to drink water.

More to the point, I believe she wishes to deny you access to anything enjoyable.

5 posted on 09/11/2013 8:25:02 AM PDT by stboz
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To: sakic

That said, it is not the business of government if we want to kill ourselves.

To the Syphilitic Progressive mind everyone’s business is THEIR business!


6 posted on 09/11/2013 8:25:53 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: sakic

Aspartame - the ingredient in many diet colas, tea & lemonade is actually a poison and is thought to be one of the many causes of diabetes. The rate of diabetes in 1950 was .78% of population, today it is 11%. I believe the biggest culprit in this growth are the synthetic sugars (like aspartame) and the genetically modified foods, in addition to the additives in our bread and cereal as mandated by congress. These additives actually makes one gain weight and are not easily digestible by the body. Forecasts for the growth of diabetes are absolutely alarming - soon we’ll be into Black Death territory - its already a pandemic, just no one’s calling it that.


7 posted on 09/11/2013 8:27:55 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: sakic

I agree. I’m very sensitive to sugar yet I crave it. When I’m on my A game and avoiding it not only do I feel better overall, but the arthritis pain in my feet disappears. I’m also prone to candida and that issue disappears. The weight loss isn’t bad either. We’ve actually switched to what I call a clean diet, which eliminates processed foods and focuses on whole foods and ingredients. We eat full fat dairy, homemade whole grain breads, nuts and seeds, etc.

As with your statement, I think that people should eat what they want regardless of what Big Gov recommends. It’s ironic that Big Gov insists on the right of a woman to “choose” to murder her child, yet tells that same woman what and how much of something to eat or drink.


8 posted on 09/11/2013 8:28:55 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: sakic

Maybe, it still is none of the governments business.


9 posted on 09/11/2013 8:28:56 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: sakic

The governments subsidies of the sugar industry are causing it, because it made soda companies switch to corn syrup.


10 posted on 09/11/2013 8:32:15 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

Have you noticed that HFCS, fake sugars, corn by-products, and soy have become the main ingredients of processed foods? I make all of our bread now because I can’t find any, without paying a fortune at an artisanal shop, with minimal ingredients. My recipe is whole wheat flour, water, olive oil, honey, yeast, salt. Look at a loaf of “healthy” bread ingredients from the store shelf. The list is a mile long and unpronounceable!


11 posted on 09/11/2013 8:34:13 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: sakic
The soda companies are probably responsible for more obesity in this country than any other companies.

Or possibly it's people drinking too much soda who are responsible for their own obesity. Like your own example, we are responsible for what we consume.
12 posted on 09/11/2013 8:36:52 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

I was talking to a professional person about some medical problems and that came up. I have also cut back on the processed stuff as much as I can.


13 posted on 09/11/2013 8:40:01 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
I believe the biggest culprit in this growth are the synthetic sugars (like aspartame) and the genetically modified foods, in addition to the additives in our bread and cereal as mandated by congress.

"I believe". Anyone can believe anything. Fortunately, the scientific method does not rely on "I believe" to answer questions of causation or we'd still be in the Dark Ages on a lot of things.

But using ordinary logic and inference, it is more likely the increase in diabetes in linked with the general increase in body mass than with any particular ingredient of food.

14 posted on 09/11/2013 8:43:58 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: sakic
I quit soda about 6 months ago and that alone reduced most of my fat.

I quit about 10 months ago after being diagnosed with Type II. Now I drink water with an occasional unsweet/diet iced tea.

I look back on that diagnosis as a blessing. I've dropped 30 lbs, changed my diet (Fuhrman's Eat to Live), more exercise. About a month ago, I went on vacation with my 11 YO son (mom stayed home), and came back with so many great memories.

The best memory was a day of canyoneering in Water Canyon, UT, near Zion NP. Our hike in was 2 1/2 miles with an elevation gain of over 1000 feet...damn near killed me (lol). On our way back, we rappelled 5 times, ranging from 40-90 feet.

My son wants to do it again next year, so I better stay in training. I'll add a stair-stepper to the mix.

Without the drastic change in lifestyle, I never would have attempted that adventure.

15 posted on 09/11/2013 8:47:02 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: moonshinner_09

16 posted on 09/11/2013 9:09:28 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: steve86

A simple Google or Yahoo! search will lead to information supporting our FRiend’s beliefs.


17 posted on 09/11/2013 9:18:17 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Night Hides Not
Our hike in was 2 1/2 miles with an elevation gain of over 1000 feet...damn near killed me

Yeah, I recently hiked 1 mile with the grandkids with an elevation gain of 880 feet. Seemed fairly steep (16-17%). Nearly killed me twice..in both directions (knees gave out on the way down). Beautiful scenery, though.

18 posted on 09/11/2013 9:20:41 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: steve86
Mr. Peel was of normal weight - not overweight or obese. He suffered a massive hemorrhagic stroke 7 years ago, due to undiagnosed diabetes. Diabetes does not run in his family. We ate only "healthy" foods. Only wheat bread (no white, only margarine, no butter, only sugar-free drinks because sugar is "bad".) The moment I cut out the man-made garbage and the genetically altered crap from his diet, his blood sugar numbers went into normal territory. This was a man who, for 7 years needed 5 injections of insulin a day, now requires 0. I was the one who had to inject him with the insulin, as the stroke took away his use of the right side of his body. The ONLY difference in his recovery has been the diet. Yes, I can say "I believe" because my belief is just as valid as medical idiots who tell me that "obesity causes diabetes" --

No medical idiot can explain to me how a non-overweight man get diabetes so violently, who ate all the "right" foods. He did not/does not smoke and barely drinks. And its not genetic.

19 posted on 09/11/2013 9:24:29 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: goodwithagun

You mean the claim that aspartame and genetically modified foods cause most diabetes? I’m all ears for controlled studies supporting the above. Not so eager for links to other “I believe” sites.


20 posted on 09/11/2013 9:25:14 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: goodwithagun

Have made our bread for yrs. With a bread machine it is just too easy. Bought my bread machine many years ago from Goodwill for $5.


21 posted on 09/11/2013 9:27:20 AM PDT by sheana
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To: steve86

There is certainly research available. To paraphrase another FReeper, if it weren’t for scientists being wrong there would be no such thing as science. As a conservative, I refuse to take the Al Gore “ the science is settled” mentality about anything.


22 posted on 09/11/2013 9:28:53 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: wally_bert

You have to read the labels on everything. Checkout the label on a can of Starkist tuna for example. I was amazed. There’s soy in the Tuna. Soy? And as of 2005, something like 95% of the US soy crop is genetically modified. Genetically modified soy is cheap — it got me angry — what’s this garbage? Soy flavored tuna? No wonder diabetes is on the rise. Genetically modified foods and additives and sugars are in everything we eat.


23 posted on 09/11/2013 9:29:09 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: sakic

Orange Juice has a high sugar content 20g per 8 oz.Drink two 8oz 2 glasses, this will equal 40g of sugar equal or above soda.Do the tax payers really need to spend $$$$$$$$$$$$ of dollars for Michelle Obama,to jet around the country explaing the power of water? How about Michelle Obama,explain to us how did it reached the point of people buying water from stores ?Also her school lunch programs are complete failure.


24 posted on 09/11/2013 9:29:55 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

It is wonderful that your husband has recovered after you made the dietary changes. Your observations probably are perfectly valid in his case. However, extrapolating from a study with n=1 to an entire population may not be justified. For one thing, individual people have unique sensitivities. If your findings were generalizable you have to ask why I and a lot of people don’t all have Type 1. I eat all the “bad” stuff. P.S. Best wishes to your husband and yourself.


25 posted on 09/11/2013 9:32:07 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: goodwithagun
The US government in 1994 mandated that additives be put in our breads and cereals. These are the synthetic folic acid, synthetic B1 etc you see on the label. These additives were to prevent birth defects as it was thought that women from poor neighborhoods are not getting enough folic acid in their diet. Ok, birth defects are down. BUT pancreatic cancer and diabetes are UP. I believe that messing with the food supply by mandating additives ultimately does more harm than good.

Today I only use pure raw sugar or pure raw honey. I never buy store bought bread. Too many toxins.

26 posted on 09/11/2013 9:34:46 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: steve86

I think our experience with diabetes is simply to hammer home the idea that its a very complicated condition. A “one size fits all” summary is not correct. I’m of the (there’s that word again) “belief” that diabetes is actually a food allergy - hence the difficulties in quantifying it. Some people like my husband may have developed the allergy while eating foods laced with high Fructose Corn Syrup, others, eating genetically modified soy. Much of the diet foods out there do not satiate and actually cause a person to eat more than they need, hence gain weight and at that time the allergy kicks in and diabetes is a result.


27 posted on 09/11/2013 9:41:49 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

Just asking about too many toxins.Would this not also apply to farmers pesticides,from fruit to veggies ?


28 posted on 09/11/2013 9:53:59 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

I respect your right to make these choices and I am glad for your success. However I take issue with the subjective and anecdotal nature of the claims...such as “aspartame is poison that likely causes diabetes.” The world (natural and otherwise) is made of chemicals...some are toxic and some are not.


29 posted on 09/11/2013 9:56:22 AM PDT by Drawsing
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To: AD from SpringBay

Shhhh....even some ‘conservatives’ think it’s someone else’s fault.

BTW, we don’t drink much soda in our house because we just can’t afford to with four kids, but we do get it for them as a treat every so often. I am drinking a glass of Coke right now, but since I have been 115 pounds since I was about 18 (now 40 years old), I think my body can deflect the evils that Big Soda are trying to lay upon me. ;)


30 posted on 09/11/2013 9:57:17 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: AD from SpringBay
Or possibly it's people drinking too much soda who are responsible for their own obesity. Like your own example, we are responsible for what we consume.

Exactly my thought when I read the comment. It's not the business that's responsible, it's the one who drinks the stuff to excess. Take responsibility for yourself, don't blame it one someone or something that didn't make you buy it and drink it.

31 posted on 09/11/2013 10:04:29 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: moonshinner_09
...as sugary drinks get caught in the fire of the War on Obesity...

BTW, I was unaware that HFCS was "sugar".....

I actually prefer sugar to HFCS, but I drink tea, not soda. Gold Peak tea to be specific.

32 posted on 09/11/2013 10:06:20 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

Too late Obama’s NSA will be watching you closely..J/k


33 posted on 09/11/2013 10:08:46 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

But I did eat a large salad for lunch to go with the Coke, so it balances out.

Then again, we are having bacon, eggs, and biscuits for dinner. Does the fact that the eggs come from our free-range chickens count?

Life in Obama’s world is just too complex for me...


34 posted on 09/11/2013 10:51:11 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: moonshinner_09

Absolutely. The problem with pesticides and genetically modified foods and synthetic vitamins and synthetic sugar, there’s no telling which ones are totally benign in long term use, and which ones will trigger an allergic episode. Mr. Peel was a kid of the 50s, and the additives in the foods back then was pretty tame. These days its everywhere. And the rate of the disease is exploding.


35 posted on 09/11/2013 11:23:49 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: Drawsing
Took my 90 year old mother to her new doctor the other day for a check up. He was on a "no artificial additives" bandwagon. And handed out nutritional pamphlets which he wrote. His biggest beef: Aspartame. I told him he was preaching to the choir.

Just because a substance is approved by the FDA, does not mean it is safe. High Fructose Corn Syrup anyone?

36 posted on 09/11/2013 11:39:01 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel

I agree 100% A while back I read a story about veggies and fruits with pesticides in them that really implied eat pesticides food at your own risk..I also check every label to confrim what is in this food.When you read labels,it is amazing what you find out about is in foods, otherwise you would of never known about it.Processed foods are big risk to anyone whom eats them and these sure enough lead to heath problems.thank you for you answer.


37 posted on 09/11/2013 12:24:19 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

I don’t suppose the first lady drinks the lead-contaminated water that runs through the pipes in DC?

Campaign promoting DC tap water: http://www.dcwater.com/news/listings/press_release610.cfm

Google search for “DC tap water”: https://www.google.com/search?q=dc+free+tap+water&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=dc+tap+water&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial

Wikipeda on “Lead contamination in Washington, D.C. drinking water”: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_contamination_in_Washington,_D.C._drinking_water

From wikipedia’s article on Lead poisoning: “...interferes with the development of the nervous system and is therefore particularly toxic to children, causing potentially permanent learning and behavior disorders.” And, “Evidence also suggests that age-related mental decline and psychiatric symptoms are correlated with lead exposure.”


38 posted on 09/11/2013 4:07:17 PM PDT by SovereignVA
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