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Home schooled children outpacing public school students
Examiner ^ | September 11, 2013 | Martha

Posted on 09/11/2013 4:20:22 PM PDT by usalady

Home schooled children outpacing public school students

Do you know there are 10 and 12- year-old students already attending college classes in America? It is happening every day as parents flee the public schools and instead educate their children at home.

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TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: commoncore; homeschool; school; students
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To: arthurus

Saxon 5/4 homeschool packet is the greatest math tool ever.


51 posted on 09/11/2013 5:46:29 PM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: usalady

Home schooled children are on average more than one academic year advanced beyond their age-peers in pubic school. I heard one economist lecture at the London School of Economics showing that every year of education regression translates to a reduction of over a trillion dollars of GDP.

On August 21, 2013, the ACT test results showed that only 5% of black high school graduates are ready for college. Putting aside how many black children drop out, it now costs over $2 million to graduate a single college-ready black student who has a high enough ACT score that he can be admitted to college without remedial instruction.

The public (government) school system is horribly broken. The easiest way to fix it is to give parents permission and the means to send their children to any school of their choice, including for-profit private schools.

We no longer have the prosperity or resources to put up with anything this wasteful of money or lives.


52 posted on 09/11/2013 5:46:45 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: LibsRJerks

My homeschool daughter was running a school in Nicaragua this past year at age twenty. Filled in for the folks who had to go stateside for health issues.


53 posted on 09/11/2013 5:48:43 PM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: AlmaKing

Well, I’d start by encouraging people to think about it before they marry. One of the things that attracted my husband and me to each other when we met on this forum was that we were both homeschool graduates. We spent plenty of time talking about our theory of education before marriage.

Once you’re in and stuck, then yeah you have to make compromises. It’s hard for me to understand why one spouse would desperately want to homeschool and the other refuse, but it happens. Best course of action then is for the homeschool-fan parent to supplement education on evenings and weekends.

Very sad to think about. I am glad my husband loves me sacrificially and makes sure that I can stay home with our child. It’s very important to both of us that we are the dominant influences in her life. She’s four, and a sponge. I shudder to think what other people would teach her.


54 posted on 09/11/2013 5:49:34 PM PDT by JenB
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Kids should be learning Calculus by age 12.

Why? How many people would ever use it?

Maybe we'd have more engineers and fewer lawyers, lobbyists, and welfare cheats.

55 posted on 09/11/2013 5:50:27 PM PDT by EricT. (Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Big brother is watching you.)
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To: usalady

OK, I got you all beat. I know a home-schooed kid who at the age of 12 was awarded a full ride to Johns Hopkins Medical School.

Seriously, but this kid is major league genius. My home schooled kids are all normal. One is 23 and living in another state on her own. My 20 year old is going to join her next year. My 17 year old is doing joint high school, community college, robotics and completing his Eagle Scout project this weekend. Finally, my 11 year old is complaining about having to do dishes.


56 posted on 09/11/2013 5:51:29 PM PDT by cyclotic (Hey BSA, NOT IN MY TROOP)
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To: usalady

Public school curricula is designed to create unimaginative functionaries who possess no critical thinking skills.


57 posted on 09/11/2013 5:52:57 PM PDT by EricT. (Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Big brother is watching you.)
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To: JenB

My homeschool daughter just married into a family of 10 homeschoolers.


58 posted on 09/11/2013 5:53:36 PM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: LibsRJerks
My kids are long grown and gone but I promote homeschooling to any young parents I meet who are not louts. I got a young black single mother that I worked with started on it when her kids were 4 and 2. It changed her while educating her kids way beyond their peers in only a couple of years. She is very conservative now but will only discuss politics and society with a few like minded friends. She took herself off of Food Stamps and housing subsidy when she figured out she could do things differently and figured out she did not want her kids living like that. Her speech lost the ghetto pattern and became quite good and her morals improved tremendously- because she learned what morals are. She is not even very smart but she has done wonderfully with her children. She has not married but her now 13 and 11 year olds do not have younger siblings and abortion is unthinkable.

When she started homeschooling she quickly learned that there is a network of homeschoolers who share tasks and support and there are band and sports because the parochial schools are eager to add homeschoolers to their programs to have enough participants for a band or a team.

59 posted on 09/11/2013 5:53:56 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: MrEdd

I taught the children connected italics, the Portland University program. They have much better handwriting than I do.


60 posted on 09/11/2013 5:54:45 PM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: EricT.
Maybe we'd have more engineers and fewer lawyers, lobbyists, and welfare cheats.

Or at least have welfare cheats who can calculate the maximum benefits they can scam.

But if you are a home school parent don't forget socialization for your kids, so take them into the bathroom, beat them up and take their lunch money. After that you can teach them to smoke while in there.

61 posted on 09/11/2013 6:01:39 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Why is our military going to be used as Al Qaeda's air force in Syria?)
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To: OneWingedShark

“You are slacking; algebra is easy and should be no trouble for a normal 10 year-old: as it is merely the extension of the basics of arithmetic with unknowns.”

I think that overstates it. We homeschool and I have an advanced degree in Complex Systems, which involves more than a bit of linear algebra, calculus, and regular old algebra.

Maybe I’m a bad teacher but algebra has been very challenging for our (now) 13 year old. I’ve been introducing him to simple algebra during the Saxon 6th and 7th grade courses—really, some of the pre-algebra stuff ought to be solved with algebra because its the simplest and most intuitive way to solve the problem.

He’ll get it. But different kids get it at different rates. And the rate of change varies too :) When he hit puberty, the rate of change went negative for about six months.


62 posted on 09/11/2013 6:01:43 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: OneWingedShark

My 11 year old is doing calculus and linear algebra. All on his own. He can’t attend college until he is 13


63 posted on 09/11/2013 6:04:23 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: arthurus

I don’t know about that. I first considered homeschooling, 13 years ago, after reading posts here at FR about homeschooling.

I am not kidding. The reason I have a very successful 15 year old, homeschooled kid is because of the info I found on FR a very long time ago.


64 posted on 09/11/2013 6:08:22 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: usalady
Home schooled children outpacing public school students

This is terrible. Perhaps home schooled children should be required to eat lead-based paint or something.

65 posted on 09/11/2013 6:08:51 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: EricT.

I´ve got 2 grand daughters, the one in public school is 15, was successful trying to get pregnant. The school system is providing her daycare on a site for single moms. There is a neat facebook page, ....Medicaid will pay for the birth, the sperm donor is age 14. This girl goes to a school of EXPERTS. The homeschooled grand daughter is conjugating Latin Verbs, reading Homer, all of the old Classics, breaking down sentences and can explain an indirect object, where to put a comma, and the sequence of numbers known as Fabriconni Numbers and the names of the eliptical orbit of Earth and the Kepler effect. The most common conversation exhibits intelligence, reason, thinking and comprehension. Home School 100% takes the front of the class. OH...for the days we can get rid of ObamaCare and the NEA.


66 posted on 09/11/2013 6:11:31 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: usalady

Someone who just got a Ph.D. in the philosophy of science at Princeton reports that all the really smart kids, the ones who are way ahead of their peers, were home-schooled.

Makes sense. The big classes in public schools hold the kids back. They have to move at the rate of the slowest student.


67 posted on 09/11/2013 6:21:25 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: usalady

We have done partial home-schooling and partial brick-and-mortar. We have a very good high school (her older siblings went there) so our 11-year old daughter is a full-time freshman in the “real building”.

If things change drastically at the high school, we would pull her out in a second but for now this is working well. However, we DO NOT want her going to college yet so we hope she will be content to do high school in 4 years. 15 will already be pretty young for college.


68 posted on 09/11/2013 6:22:00 PM PDT by lkco
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To: arthurus

What a wonderful story; thanks for sharing it! :)


69 posted on 09/11/2013 6:22:16 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: usalady

Why would any parent allow their children to attend a government indoctrination center where their minds will be turned to mush?

Does this border on child abuse?

The result of Common Core will be students leaving the schools in droves.


70 posted on 09/11/2013 6:45:41 PM PDT by upchuck (The nobama regime: a string of omnishambles that stretches, seemingly, to infinity.)
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To: Truth2012

13 years ago - 2000. Boy, I have been on this web site far longer, although I don’t post much.

Originally, my wife was against homeschooling, but given the total ineptitude of our carefully selected school district (we moved to it no less) she eventually saw reason and we yanked our then two kids at 3 and 1st grade respectively.

Maybe some of my old posts helped change your mind. Even if it is not true, it is nice to think that maybe it is. :)

Funny, how fast the years go. Each one faster than the last.


71 posted on 09/11/2013 7:26:59 PM PDT by Geoffrey
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To: OneWingedShark

>>Seriously, it’s likely you’re using it (or something based on it) in everyday life.

It is virtually impossible not to be. Many control algorithms used in automotive Electronic Control Units are calculus based. Most people drive.

Just for one example of many.


72 posted on 09/11/2013 7:44:43 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Geoffrey

I have often thought of going back and looking for the old threads, so I could tell posters the results of reading their posts. My kidos are doing so well. I have homeschooled for 13 years now.

Yes, 2000 is the exact time frame. I don’t remember posters names, but I remember discussions about John Galt, and freedom in education, and the scary topics of course, socialization, Home School Legal Defense League- were topics in general.

So hey thanks for posting, because it very well could have been you. :)


73 posted on 09/11/2013 7:46:13 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Truth2012

We had HSLD phone number on speed dial with strict protocols with our kids for answering the door and they never answered the phone.

I remember one case that scared us silly — children seized for dehydration from an anonymous tip. The dreaded anonymous tip...


74 posted on 09/11/2013 7:56:22 PM PDT by Geoffrey
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