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McGrath: “Somebody In Government Is Afraid Of What Is Coming”
SHTF Plan ^ | 10/9/13 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 10/09/2013 8:18:30 PM PDT by Kartographer

We’re talking scenarios much more severe than the Great Depression.

But this isn’t just happening in America. Switzerland recently engaged in war games that simulated an economic collapse scenario, as well as an invasion by bankrupted nations and millions of refugees. In 2011, the British government developed plans to evacuate their citizens from European countries in expectation of monetary and economic crisis.

The exercises and drills may be compartmentalized so that most who are partaking in them don’t really know why, but there are those in the higher echelons of power that know very well what the end game is going to be.

None of this is a coincidence.

If you aren’t taking steps to prepare for a new paradigm – one plagued with destitution, riots, starvation and bloodshed – then you are going to be a victim of what’s coming.

Gordon Brown is right. When the economic system breaks down or the dollar collapses food, fuel, and medicine will be nearly impossible to acquire. The experience of Greeks, who saw this first hand, is a perfect example.

The only option for the government at that point will be to control the looting and violence that follows by declaring Martial Law and locking this country down.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government
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To: Textide; GeronL

I watched that series and read the associated book as part of a History of Technology course in college c. 1980. Great course.


51 posted on 10/10/2013 5:22:02 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kartographer

I think the storm is already here via QE and the resultant rising unemployment and inflation. I don’t think social degradation will be sudden, like a Selco or Ferfal situation. IMO things will continue to degrade with loss of currency value and economic opportunity. The only shock I see is when the USD is dropped as reserve currency. That will impart a ~35% hike in consumer prices. It may already be happening, affecting real inflation rate, as many countries are reaching their own exchange rate agreements for use their bi-lateral trades (Russia - China, China- Brazil, etc).


52 posted on 10/10/2013 5:27:07 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Kartographer

ping


53 posted on 10/10/2013 5:44:55 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: greeneyes
Re #38

Those are EXECELLENT thoughts greeneyes.

There is alot in play right now and none of it is good.

Hospitals being told to prepare for mass casualty events, nat’l guard units training for grid collapses, increased activity around FEMA facilities.

All this comes first hand from local folks.

Lots of dots to connect and the picture they're revealing is nothing short of UGLY.

Prepare now for suffer later. From what I can tell, we have a few months left. If that.

54 posted on 10/10/2013 6:06:27 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: MrB; GeronL

Besides, in the winter time apart from collecting firewood there are LOOONNNGGG periods where absolutely nothing happens.

Apperantly if flew right by the mod's head too.

55 posted on 10/10/2013 6:10:35 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Kartographer; All
Here is something
56 posted on 10/10/2013 6:23:25 AM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: greeneyes
My local Wally World has hot chocolate packets at just over $.10 per in 30 count boxes. I've been stocking up. The wisdom of peanut butter AND granola bars should not be ignored. Large containers of one minute oats has a ring to it. And canned chicken at under a dollar a can is soon to vanish. [BTW, the old fashioned hand-crank coffee grinder can turn one minuet oats into a useable flour for baking.]

The upright freezer in my garage has more 1/2 gallon and gallon jugs of clean water frozen in them than it does food stuffs. Since I have a septic tank for household effluence, old trashcans can serve as water for flushing and bathing by merely stopping up the downspouts of the back gutters so the rain water spills over and down into properly placed of cans on the back deck. When a milk jugs is emptied of milk, it gets washed out with cold then hot water, then a splash of 10 to 1 Clorox water, a cold rinse, and filled with filtered water and into the freezer, or dried then collapsed and lid tightly on and into a black trash bag for future filling.

There are lots of little ideas that one can come up with, if a little thought is applied to the things we now waste and things we can do to save and prepare for scare days ahead. I pity the freaks caught in the death zones called 'big cities'. I practice to meet the eventual scurrying survivors who will range out from the death zones to pillage and destroy. THIS is what democrip rule comes down to ...

57 posted on 10/10/2013 6:52:44 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: raybbr; NFHale; DuncanWaring; Windflier; AllAmericanGirl44; bobby.223; wku man; TheOldLady; ...
Deserter AlexW has not heeded Jim Robinson's warning to cease criticizing Freepers who love their country and stay here to save it. He has now nastily added another Freeper, raybbr, into our group of patriots who won't leave our country as he did. Welcome, raybbr, to the patriot group.

Alex has numerous posts on this thread. Here are selections from his post 45: “Welcome to the “dog in a manger gang”. They hate my guts because I am not enduring their pain. By the way, you and your pals have yet to define “fight”. Can you come up with something better then spit balls and childish post on forums? Can you tell me how you are fighting the Obamination? No you can not, but I do far more by explaining to foreigners just how filthy and disgusting Obumbo is. I still vote, and I am doing far more then you are. I know, you are really upset that I do not feel your pain. Now, go suck an egg, then get back to me.”

Alex has said he will never return to this country - fine, stop trashing America and Freepers and he can drown himself in tropical alcoholic drinks on his third world beach in the Philippines. He is a POS and will remain a POS and he needs to get the hell off this forum.

58 posted on 10/10/2013 7:54:15 AM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Old Sarge

“Please don’t feed the troll.”

Thanks for pinging me so I can read the crap he has posted here. He isn’t a troll - he is a deserter who wants you and the rest of us to leave our country and go to a third world country as he did. He is disgusting.


59 posted on 10/10/2013 8:00:32 AM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: KC_Lion

I really am not sure what is offensive about wanting a CD player at the end of the world as we know it. Doesn’t the apocalypse need a soundtrack?

Shooting zombies to the rhythm of a good beat sounds like it would be efficient.


60 posted on 10/10/2013 8:24:22 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: MHGinTN
I’d like to join Commander Riker in applauding your most excellent post:


61 posted on 10/10/2013 8:30:38 AM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: GeronL

I would pick something Wagnerian, but that’s me...


62 posted on 10/10/2013 8:32:37 AM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: AlexW
My only concern, and the only thing that would affect me, would be disruption of Social Security.

Hoping the Ponzi scheme doesn't collapse before you get yours, eh?

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

63 posted on 10/10/2013 8:47:28 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: AlexW; raybbr; DuncanWaring; Windflier; AllAmericanGirl44; bobby.223; wku man; TheOldLady

Al, old boy...

You still around?

“...They hate my guts because I am not enduring their pain. ...”

GONG... Wrong... That’s not the reason.

The REASON is because you’re an arrogant, insufferable, miserable, and gloating bonehead that takes some strange joy in seeing other people’s misfortune... at least, from your posts, that’s what it appears.

So get it straight, old boy.

“...They are not from my ancestry, Uncle Sam, 1812...”

And as for your ancestry... he’d be ashamed of your actions.

raybbr: Welcome To The Dog Pound!!!

Woof Woof!
Your Friendly Neighborhood Rottweiler In The Manger...


64 posted on 10/10/2013 8:49:43 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Old Sarge; GeronL

“...I would pick something Wagnerian...”

Uh oh... I sense a Valkyrie Moment coming from Sarge... some big, buxom, Norse Goddess, perhaps, bearing Shield, Sword, Axe, and a cask of Ale, perhaps???


65 posted on 10/10/2013 8:52:37 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: AlexW

Good God, man, you really have gone off the deep end, haven’t you?

Having forsaken your most fundamental responsibility as a human being, your conscience is starting to get the better of you; you’re going to greater and greater lengths to dress-up your careless irresponsibility as a great and noble cause.

It ain’t working.


66 posted on 10/10/2013 8:53:32 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kartographer; USS Johnston
The only option for the government at that point will be to control the looting and violence that follows by declaring Martial Law and locking this country down.

And I'm sure Obama and the liberals are foaming at the mouth at the chance to do just that.
67 posted on 10/10/2013 9:06:05 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: AlexW

Remember a few months ago a ferry sank in the Phillipines?

One Freeper posted that the sinking was only a couple of miles from where he lived.

To the best of my knowledge, nobody says anything about where he lives, because he doesn’t spend his life pontificating like a pompous petulant little prick about how great and wise he is.

He sets a good example.


68 posted on 10/10/2013 9:07:04 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: MHGinTN; Travis McGee; Kartographer; KC_Lion; All

SHTF constantly in North Korea

In the mid-90’s the North Korean prison state, which has very bad infrastructure and agricultural systems - they’re commies so what do you expect - was cut off from Soviet aid and the Chinese took over for a period.

wiki”: “By 1993, China was supplying North Korea with 77 percent of its fuel imports and 68 percent of its food imports”

Dependence on the Soviets became dependence on the Chinese.

Famine struck.

Famine that killed somewhere between 250,000 to 3.5 million, and you know the North Korean won’t ever admit the real numbers. The NK government has mandated the famine/mass death be officially called the “March of Suffering”.

Most North Koreans were nutritionally deprived long before the famine struck. It is a “country” run for the benefit of the regime and little else. They always practiced what they now admit is a “military-first” economic policy.

The bad economic system and terrible policies were the main drivers but the floods that hit were the kick in the pants. Not only was at least 1.2 million tons were lost in the harvest but another 1.5 million tons of grain reserves, underground, were destroyed.

North Korea literally has nothing worth selling to the world to trade for food.

The government was the main distributor of food, through the Public Distribution System. They were supposed to thank the regime for their daily bowl of rice, I guess. But the famine/floods destroyed the PDS.

wiki: “However, the extended period of food shortage put a strain on the system and spread the amount of food allocation thinly across the groups, affecting 62% of the population who were entirely reliant on the PDS. The system was feeding only 6% of the state by 1997.”

The people who suffered the most were those who continued to believe and trust the government to feed them. The people who were more likely to survive are those who turned to the black market and other underground means.

wiki: “The average official salary in 2011 was equivalent to $2 per month while the actual monthly income seems to be around $15 because most North Koreans earn money in illegal small businesses: trade, subsistence farming, and handicrafts. The illegal economy is dominated by women because men have to attend their places of official work even though most of the factories are non-functioning.”

You have to show up at your assigned workplace even if it is shut down. Often you will be ordered to go out and find other work and bring back the money to give to the factory/workplce.

Escapees in 2011 began reporting that starvation had returned to North Korea. Even a shill like Jimmy Carter noted that at least a third of the children he saw were stunted by malnutrition and that daily food intake had been decreased from 1,400 to 700 calories per day.

“A study in 2011 by South Korean anthropologists of North Korean children who had defected to China found that 18-year-old males were 5 inches shorter than South Koreans their age”

The number of people wandering the countryside with no help from the NK government, officially non-persons, or Kotjebi has grown. Their main diet is grass soup. Conditions in the detention camps are even worse of course, even in the Children’s Detention Camps there are people starving to death.

This is the Utopia, the Workers Paradise, this is the end stage of the dream of every leftist.

The crap hit the fan a long time ago in North Korea and it continues to hit the fan. Yet their government remains in power and their grip has not loosened as far as one could tell. The majority of people no longer believes their government can or will feed them, they no longer believe that all of the propaganda they are told is true, even though it still remains in them and effects them years after they escape NK. Enough people in NK have seen SK programs smuggled in to know that the rest of the world is not worse off than them, but much much better off.

Yet the grip on power remains.

North Korea is now a model for other governments who know that the S is about to HTF.

Yes, the US and other countries are probably taking lessons on how to stay in control from North Korea.


69 posted on 10/10/2013 9:10:11 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: greeneyes
Started stocking in cocoa and chocolate the last 2 weeks.

How do you store them so they will last?

At one time I was going to store cocoa doing the mylar and oxygen absorber bit, but I think it has too much fat in it. Do you (or anyone) know about this?
70 posted on 10/10/2013 9:10:53 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: informavoracious

LOL


71 posted on 10/10/2013 9:10:54 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: NFHale

Killing zombies to the theme music from “The Incredible Hulk” TV show??


72 posted on 10/10/2013 9:12:51 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Old Sarge

Classical music is good.

“Fight of the Bumblebee” or whatever its called.....

or “Ode to Joy”

would be good soundtracks during zombie raids.


73 posted on 10/10/2013 9:18:29 AM PDT by GeronL
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74 posted on 10/10/2013 9:26:59 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: GeronL

I’d prefer facing the Zombie Apocalypse to something from:

Avenged Sevenfold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zm99J4ydGw

or Elena Siegman...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UAsxfbgMpc&bpctr=1381424769
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6vI919QI14


75 posted on 10/10/2013 9:38:32 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Kartographer

Da trolls... dey’s be runnin’ Amok or sumpin....


76 posted on 10/10/2013 9:39:20 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Makes me wonder what side you are on...

lol


77 posted on 10/10/2013 9:41:57 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL; Old Sarge

Music To Slay The Undead By...

“1812 Overture” would work...

Anything from “Carmen”...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w9yJdkeryI

Or “O Fortuna!” from Carmina Burana (my favorite):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD3VsesSBsw

Or, just for laughs, how about “Swan Lake”


78 posted on 10/10/2013 9:45:04 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: GeronL

I’m on the side that’s NOT trying to eat somebody else!!!
Haha!

Speaking of Zombies... “The Walking Dead” starts up again this Sunday night. Season 4 already... damn. Lasted longer than I thought it would.


79 posted on 10/10/2013 9:47:29 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; GeronL; Old Sarge

You are all wrong!!

Richard Wagner - Ride of the Valkyries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRU1AJsXN1g

I love the smell of burning undead in the morning!!!!


80 posted on 10/10/2013 9:48:11 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: NFHale

lolz

back to the Korean stuff:

“Fantastic Baby” maybe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_kMBn9x8yk


81 posted on 10/10/2013 9:49:19 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kartographer

aaarrrr!!!

See, that’d be perfect, which is why I avoided mentioning it. :p


82 posted on 10/10/2013 9:53:47 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kartographer

I am so screwed.


83 posted on 10/10/2013 9:55:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: KC_Lion

I totally forgot that T-Ara has 2 new songs/videos out today


84 posted on 10/10/2013 9:59:18 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kartographer; GeronL; Old Sarge

“...Ride of the Valkyries...”

Yes, while it IS standard Undead Decapitating musical accompaniment... and I DO agree...I still think Carl Orff’s “O Fortuna!” has more of a dramatic flair to it...

Or anything from Hans Zimmer right now...

I mean, if I’m going to wade into the middle of a pile of reeking, rotting undead pussbags... I’m gonna go in STYLE!!!

How about “Also Sprach Zarathustra” but use the Deodato version instead...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJKsp9_L24Q


85 posted on 10/10/2013 10:06:43 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Kartographer; NFHale; GeronL

CLICK THE CHICK, AS THE SAYING DOTH TELL...

86 posted on 10/10/2013 10:10:15 AM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Old Sarge; Kartographer; GeronL

Makes me want to go air raid a Viet Cong village... I dunno why...

“CHARLIE DON’T SURF!”


87 posted on 10/10/2013 10:17:25 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; GeronL; Old Sarge; Lazamataz; humblegunner

I can see Laz and Hummble slaying the undead to this!

Rossini: William Tell Overture: Final

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7O91GDWGPU

Now I leave it up to you who’s Tonto and who is the Ranger! ;-)


88 posted on 10/10/2013 10:21:41 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: NFHale

??

That sounds like the theme music of 2001 mixed with the theme music of “Welcome Back Cotter” and “Dear John” and “What’s Happening?”


89 posted on 10/10/2013 10:24:22 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kartographer

pop-pop-pop bang bang


90 posted on 10/10/2013 10:25:56 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kartographer; NFHale; GeronL

I would also think to sneak through the ruins to “Hall Of The Mountain King”...


91 posted on 10/10/2013 10:28:34 AM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Old Sarge

It’s good to be king


92 posted on 10/10/2013 10:30:01 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kartographer

I did the North Korean post thinking I could push this back to the serious side, how wrong I was.

lol


93 posted on 10/10/2013 10:31:43 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Old Sarge

something different

“Seven Nation Army”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J2QdDbelmY


94 posted on 10/10/2013 10:35:22 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: KC_Lion

ok, since I stink at battle music

I’ll just google...er... Bing... “Best battle Music”

Although I also do like the theme from “Last of the Mohicans”

Here is a youtube titled

“Greatest Battle Music of All Times To Glory”

with a title like that....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqLiZZxbp0Y


95 posted on 10/10/2013 10:43:17 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kartographer

We seem to take a step closer every single day.


96 posted on 10/10/2013 10:47:24 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GeronL

RE 2001 Space Odyssey Music:
Ricard Strauss’ “Also Sprach Zarathustra”

Eumir Deodato, a jazz keyboardist and composer, took Ricard Strauss’ “Also Sprach Zarathustra” and made it into a jazz epic way back in 1972/73 time frame. It’s a pretty cool jam.

Sounds great cranked up on the big stereo system in my den... shakes the walls.


97 posted on 10/10/2013 10:47:37 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Old Sarge; NFHale; GeronL

Yes its good to be KING!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZY2mRG5mzg&list=TLMPHMbUokLZ0KWips-8Ecr_DdBbGZ2vKG


98 posted on 10/10/2013 10:49:41 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Old Sarge; Kartographer; GeronL

“Hall of the Mountain King” is awesome...

You know, I’ve reached the height of culture when I equate classical music with every single Bugs Bunny cartoon I’ve ever seen...

“Long Haired Hare” comes immediately to mind... And doing the “Barber of Seville”... “Kill the Waaaahbitt...”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQoSRbMIekM


99 posted on 10/10/2013 10:55:30 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; Old Sarge; GeronL
"Kill the zommmmmbbbbie...."
100 posted on 10/10/2013 10:58:38 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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